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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:30 PM
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David Brooks (NYT): Hillary's Five Percent Chance
The Long Defeat
By DAVID BROOKS
March 25, 2008


Hillary Clinton may not realize it yet, but she’s just endured one of the worst weeks of her campaign.

First, Barack Obama weathered the Rev. Jeremiah Wright affair without serious damage to his nomination prospects. Obama still holds a tiny lead among Democrats nationally in the Gallup tracking poll, just as he did before this whole affair blew up.

Second, Obama’s lawyers successfully prevented re-votes in Florida and Michigan. That means it would be virtually impossible for Clinton to take a lead in either elected delegates or total primary votes.

Third, as Noam Scheiber of The New Republic has reported, most superdelegates have accepted Nancy Pelosi’s judgment that the winner of the elected delegates should get the nomination. Instead of lining up behind Clinton, they’re drifting away. Her lead among them has shrunk by about 60 in the past month, according to Avi Zenilman of Politico.com.

In short, Hillary Clinton’s presidential prospects continue to dim. The door is closing. Night is coming. The end, however, is not near.

Last week, an important Clinton adviser told Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen (also of Politico) that Clinton had no more than a 10 percent chance of getting the nomination. Now, she’s probably down to a 5 percent chance.

Five percent.

Let’s take a look at what she’s going to put her party through for the sake of that 5 percent chance: The Democratic Party is probably going to have to endure another three months of daily sniping. For another three months, we’ll have the Carvilles likening the Obamaites to Judas and former generals accusing Clintonites of McCarthyism. For three months, we’ll have the daily round of résumé padding and sulfurous conference calls. We’ll have campaign aides blurting “blue dress” and only-because-he’s-black references as they let slip their private contempt.

For three more months (maybe more!) the campaign will proceed along in its Verdun-like pattern. There will be a steady rifle fire of character assassination from the underlings, interrupted by the occasional firestorm of artillery when the contest touches upon race, gender or patriotism. The policy debates between the two have been long exhausted, so the only way to get the public really engaged is by poking some raw national wound.

For the sake of that 5 percent, this will be the sourest spring. About a fifth of Clinton and Obama supporters now say they wouldn’t vote for the other candidate in the general election. Meanwhile, on the other side, voters get an unobstructed view of the Republican nominee. John McCain’s approval ratings have soared 11 points. He is now viewed positively by 67 percent of Americans. A month ago, McCain was losing to Obama among independents by double digits in a general election matchup. Now McCain has a lead among this group.

For three more months, Clinton is likely to hurt Obama even more against McCain, without hurting him against herself. And all this is happening so she can preserve that 5 percent chance.

When you step back and think about it, she is amazing. She possesses the audacity of hopelessness.

Continue Reading: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/25/opinion/25brooks.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:32 PM
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1. Stunning and frightening piece. We have passed the tipping point. Its downhill from here. n/t
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:38 PM
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2. Brooks isn't on our side, no matter who you support.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:40 PM
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5. Agreed.
I was ragging on Clinton supporters quoteing BoBo a couple of weeks ago, and I'll do the same to Obama supporters tonight.

Don't quote Brooks. He has nothing near our best interests at heart.

Besides, wasn't he pretty much saying that Obama was done a couple of weeks ago? The guy sways in the breeze, for cryin' out loud.

- as
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:42 PM
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6. I don't care if Rove wrote it himself
Its fact
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:00 AM
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21. The fact is that Brooks is bending you over.
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:03 AM
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23. He is? Explain how exactly?
And please, the more detail the better.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:23 AM
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29. here's what Hillary is campaigning for

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:27 AM
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31. In your dreams.
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 12:28 AM by The_Casual_Observer
The Obama bullshit changes every day. Todays theme: She's tearing us up!
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:28 AM
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32. They like it!
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:39 PM
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3. The audacity of hopelessness. Brilliant
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:40 PM
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4. I'm starting to think Obama's camp is letting its surrogates say
some "off-message" things, to ramp up the ugliness factor on purpose. The SD's did not seem too alarmed when only Obama was getting savaged by Wright/Muslim/racial/unamerican crap in the last month or so, maybe Axelrod's thinking is that they might act a little more quickly to put an end to this if the down-and-dirty rhetoric starts to fly in BOTH directions.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:43 PM
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7. This is what I thought as well. Obama has been fighting with both hands tied behind his back.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:57 PM
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18. He/they are finally defending themselves. It's a good thing. nt
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culacano Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:43 PM
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8. 2008: The year right-wing columnists became popular in DU
Of course, only during days they support our candidate.
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:54 PM
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16. Actualy on PTV News Hour he has been very impressed with Obama and seems quite sincere.
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culacano Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:35 AM
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34. Does he seem sincere when he writes anti-Obama hit-jobs such as this one?
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 12:36 AM by culacano
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/19/opinion/19brooks.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Up until now The Chosen One’s speeches had seemed to them less like stretches of words and more like soul sensations that transcended time and space. But those in the grips of Obama Comedown Syndrome began to wonder if His stuff actually made sense. For example, His Hopeness tells rallies that we are the change we have been waiting for, but if we are the change we have been waiting for then why have we been waiting since we’ve been here all along?
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:52 AM
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36. I didn't mean to imply he was 100% Obama, just that he seems to be showing some fairness regarding
Obama compared to his previous neo-con style of remarks. I apologize if I gave a stronger impression than I meant to.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:57 PM
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19. How the hell would you know? You started your account TODAY!


...or is that you, jlake?
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:45 AM
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35. And The Left Wing Media Types Became Hated
on DU. Keith Olberman, Randi Rhodes, Ed Schultz, Stephanie Miller, I just read a column by Frank Rich, not so flattering of Sen. Clinton, so add him to the list.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:46 PM
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9. K AND R depressing but true.
how deluded can one woman be??
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:47 PM
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10. Don't listen to this neocon. He cares nothing about Democrats or the Democratic party. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:53 PM
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13. What was that about
Obama's lawyers?.."Second, Obama’s lawyers successfully prevented re-votes in Florida and Michigan. That means it would be virtually impossible for Clinton to take a lead in either elected delegates or total primary votes."

Was it Obama's lawyers or something else?
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:05 AM
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38. That jumped out at me too, zidzi!
My response...:wtf:

:hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:48 PM
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43. I'm thinking it 's david brooks
using lies as confusion and psych ops until I have proof of something else.

No Surrender :hi:
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:56 PM
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17. To hear him on PTV News Hour, he no longer cares about the current admin either. I think he is sort
of in independent land right now, and doesn't know where to hang his hat.
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:49 PM
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11. It's up to the party leadership to put an end to this farce.
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:52 PM
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12. AUDACITY OF HOPELESSNESS - perfect POV. We should repeat that often.
Along with a couple more I can think of

"Arrogance of ignorance"

"Demeanor of demonization"


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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:54 PM
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14. Do you always cite neocon David Brooks when you leave the RW forums? n/t
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:05 AM
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25. Can you refute anything he says in the article? nm
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:54 PM
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15. I don't like him, but he does touch on a truth here:
Think about all the effort, all the energy, Hillary has put into crafting a public persona for 20 years or more--from careful career decisions to adopting pets she probably didn't love or want for White House photos, to conducting polling about where to go on vacation, to staying with Bill after he humiliated her over and over again. All to eventually run for the Senate and then President. Hard to let it go now.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:58 PM
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20. I put it at 6%.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:02 AM
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22. Yep, you and your boss backed a loser.
Think of all that spin you wasted on Mrs. Inevitable who you probably never liked to begin with. Well neither did we. Kinda makes me wanna

:rofl:
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:04 AM
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24. She's disgusting. Good excerpt thanks n/t
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:14 AM
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26. Brooks is wrong as usual ..... it's a 10% chance n/t
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:21 AM
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27. There has to be an explanation beyond personal ambition
any theories?

I've got some.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:22 AM
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28. Yuck. I don't want to read David Brooks, even when he agrees with me
Let's not start using Clintonite methods of giving a platform to right-wing tools simply because they happen to back up our arguments on occasion.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:27 AM
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30. Nothing is more painful than being in agreement with Brooks
thankfully it doesn't happen very often.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:31 AM
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33. I hope you aren't one of the O-bots who complain about Hannity
cause that would be hypocritical. (I guess it's hard to tell after awhile since you all are steeped in hypocrisy.)
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:00 AM
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37. "Audacity of Hopelessness" is right on the money. K&R
:kick:
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:35 AM
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39. MMM...I don't like David Brooks even if he does make an ounce of sense every once in awhile
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:42 AM
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40. I agree with the words, but I don't like Brooks.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:52 AM
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41. Very Ashamed to know someone like Hillary exists
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Araxen Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:07 AM
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42. Audacity of Hopelessness
Sums up Hillary the best.
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