Clinton DID propose Greenspan, Rubin, Volcker lead foreclosure group.

[redqueen]

...

corrected OP since she actually said it, herself, during her speech.



But the original article was STILL misleading, as it wouldn't be just Greenspan in charge. So there. :P

[rodeodance]

1. i saw that thread. Thanks

[Tatiana]

2. I agree.

The working group could be led by bipartisan economic heavyweights such as Republican Greenspan, Democratic former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker and Robert Rubin, the treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton.

[kirby]

3. Sigh?

"Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and other economic experts should determine whether the U.S. government needs to buy up homes to stem the country's housing crisis, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton will propose on Monday."

[redqueen]

5. Link?

[kirby]

9. Its in YOUR link! LOL n/t

[redqueen]

13. It's not a direct quote.

Have a nice day.

[kirby]

10. Also NYTimes...

"In a speech at the University of Pennsylvania, Mrs. Clinton proposed several other moves regarding foreclosures, such as tapping two former chairmen of the Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan and Paul Volcker, and former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, to lead a “high-level emergency working group” to recommend ways to overhaul at-risk mortgages."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/us/politics/24cnd-campaign.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

[redqueen]

14. They can quote everything but where she mentioned those names?

Sorry, no sale.

[kirby]

19. Yet you post a new thread refuting it?

As if you personally have more knowledge than the current developing story?

Sorry no sale for me either...

[redqueen]

23. Good for you!

:hi:

[rodeodance]

32. Here from the OP

The working group could be led by bipartisan economic heavyweights such as Republican Greenspan, Democratic former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker and Robert Rubin, the treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton.

[slinkerwink]

24. look at my response below

with link to the speech excerpt mentioning Greenspan being on the panel.

[rodeodance]

30. Here from the OP---three names plus "could"---RUBIN included

The working group could be led by bipartisan economic heavyweights such as Republican Greenspan, Democratic former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker and Robert Rubin, the treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton.

[joeybee12]

4. yeah, another day, another day of Bot lies and distortions...

...how can these people sleep at night?

[OzarkDem]

6. More swiftboating by the news media and Obama supporters

They've gotten pretty good at it.

[redqueen]

7. Uh... I'M an Obama supporter. (nt)

[OzarkDem]

42. Kudos to you

You're one of the few who still maintains some sense of objectivity and focus on the issues.

[rhett o rick]

21. Including "Obama supporters" in your post is disgusting, divisive and

republican-like. You are contributing to the division of the Party which favors John McBush.

[OzarkDem]

44. You need to check the posts in this forum

and tell me where the accusations originated.

[rhett o rick]

58. "They started it" Is that what I hear you saying. I am saying, for the sake of the party

for the sake of the country, be the bigger person and stop the attacks and accusations. Please.

[OzarkDem]

59. Excuse me?

You and I must be reading different forums.

[rhett o rick]

60. Never mind.

[City Lights]

55. You forgot Hillary. She's the one who said it.

:hi:

[Texas Hill Country]

8. oh, ok, thank you... still would be smart.

[TwilightGardener]

11. It doesn't say "experts SUCH as possibly Greenspan", it says "Greenspan", right in the article.

I'm sorry, the article is clear that Greenspan would be a headliner in this group. There's no other way to read it.

[Tatiana]

15. It says exactly that.

The working group could be led by bipartisan economic heavyweights such as Republican Greenspan, Democratic former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker and Robert Rubin, the treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton.

[redqueen]

17. Yes, the journalist who wrote it says Greenspan.

The journalist even goes so far as to tell us that Hillary will mention his name.

I still think it's unfair to saddle her with this until she actually says what this person says she's going to say.

[TwilightGardener]

18. Well, it's nice that you give the benefit of the doubt.

[redqueen]

52. I think it's important to do so...

I'm not sure it is, but eh... :hi:

[slinkerwink]

22. it's actually in her economic policy speech she released today

She is calling on President Bush to appoint an Emergency Working Group on Foreclosures to consult with experts and report to Congress and the Administration within three weeks on the best way to solve this crisis while focusing first and foremost on keeping families in their homes.

The Working Group should be headed by a non-partisan group of eminent leaders like Alan Greenspan, Paul Volcker, and Bob Rubin—each of whom supports one of the remaining candidates in the Presidential race.

http://thepage.time.com/details-of-clintons-homeowner-plan/

[redqueen]

27. I hadn't seen the speech...

perhaps people might include the quote where she included these names.

I'm way past giving any credence at all to the prognostications of those in the M$M.

[rodeodance]

41. silly--you are making stuff up again. She also included RUBIN!!--looky

The working group could be led by bipartisan economic heavyweights such as Republican Greenspan, Democratic former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker and Robert Rubin, the treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton.

[rinsd]

12. Thanks RedQueen..

You're always fair!

:hi:

[rodeodance]

38. see this

The working group could be led by bipartisan economic heavyweights such as Republican Greenspan, Democratic former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker and Robert Rubin, the treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton.

[redqueen]

45. Thank you!

I do try. :hi:

[slinkerwink]

16. uh, she did propose putting him on the panel

[redqueen]

20. I don't see where she ever mentioned his name.

As soon as I see a quote, I'll be convinced, not before.

[slinkerwink]

25. right here

http://thepage.time.com/details-of-clintons-homeowner-plan/

She is calling on President Bush to appoint an Emergency Working Group on Foreclosures to consult with experts and report to Congress and the Administration within three weeks on the best way to solve this crisis while focusing first and foremost on keeping families in their homes.
The Working Group should be headed by a non-partisan group of eminent leaders like Alan Greenspan, Paul Volcker, and Bob Rubin—each of whom supports one of the remaining candidates in the Presidential race.

[redqueen]

31. Sorry slinkerwink, but I'd need to see the speech for myself...

once the speech is online and avaiable to direclty quote where she, herself, said those names, then I'll believe it.

Thanks though. :)

[rodeodance]

35. she said "could"---but also included RUBIN

The working group could be led by bipartisan economic heavyweights such as Republican Greenspan, Democratic former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker and Robert Rubin, the treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton.

[hfojvt]

26. How so? Do you have an exact quote?

"The working group could be led by bipartisan economic heavyweights such as Republican Greenspan, Democratic former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker and Robert Rubin, the treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton."

Certainly there he seems to be one of the leaders.

Although, I actually understand having him be involved. Greenspan has long been one of my top ten hated people, but he still has a reputation as "the Maestro" and as such inspires confidence on Wall Street. Since a large measure of what is needed is "calm", avoiding panic. None of those three are friends of the working class, but the working class also needs a functioning monetary system.

[redqueen]

34. That's the whole thing... there is no quote of her proposing those names.

Just reports on her speech and what she's expected to say.

[hfojvt]

46. it's a summary from an advanced press release prepared by her campaign

They paraphrase some of it instead of making their article all quotes. It should be accurate, although the M$M often gets even basic facts wrong, especially when they are promoting one of their scripts. But the press release should be on her website.

[redqueen]

53. Yes... but she might change it at the last minute...

or as you said, the press could just screw it up. :)

[rodeodance]

28. says a working group "could" be Volker, Greenspan and RUBIN.

The working group could be led by bipartisan economic heavyweights such as Republican Greenspan, Democratic former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker and Robert Rubin, the treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton.

[kirby]

29. HERE IS EXACT TRANSCRIPT!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/us/politics/24text-clinton.html?pagewanted=all

You should self-delete your misinformation...

"That's why I'm proposing this emergency working group on foreclosures. It could be led by a distinguished nonpartisan group of economic leaders, like Alan Greenspan, Robert Rubin, Paul Volcker. It's the kind of proactive step that would help reestablish confidence in our economy, by showing that the president and the administration is taking our economic crisis seriously."

Kinda like suggesting a Mid-East peace panel should be headed up by distinguished diplomatic leaders such as Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, and Joe Lieberman.

[Coexist]

33. yes, I saw that, she did say he should lead the group, and Volcker

already endorsed Obama and wouldn't want in on that.

[rodeodance]

37. Don't forget Rubin--the man who held the US together while Newt shut down Congress

The working group could be led by bipartisan economic heavyweights such as Republican Greenspan, Democratic former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker and Robert Rubin, the treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton.

[kirby]

43. Rubin is CEO of Citigroup...Another idiotic idea when

it comes to helping the common person...

[rodeodance]

56. He was a great Tres. Sec. who cares about his country. simple as that

[kirby]

57. dot.com bubble during his watch...

and him leaving the Treasury and working as a CEO of the very companies that helped create the current situation disqualifies him for me.

[redqueen]

36. Pardon me, rude person, but I will not self-delete - I will correct it.

I will give this and all your posts all the consideration they deserve.

:hi:

[Coexist]

39. you are always very nice.

[kirby]

40. Do what you want..

I was trying to counter misinformation with facts. I wasn't trying to be rude, just factual.

[redqueen]

49. You were actually rather bossy.

But whatever... have a nice day. :hi:

[kirby]

51. My apologies then...

Sorry if I came across bossy... Was just typing quick before the edit window expired.

[Tatiana]

47. Well I do think the title of the article is misleading

In the sense that it suggests Greenspan is going to be at the head of this committee, when it seems as if a bipartisan committee (which would include Democrats) would be leading the proposed group instead.

[redqueen]

54. Excellent point.

It is still misleading, as he wouldn't be *the* person heading the group.

Thanks! :hi:

[rodeodance]

48. Rubin is included in the OP

The working group could be led by bipartisan economic heavyweights such as Republican Greenspan, Democratic former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker and Robert Rubin, the treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton.

[kirby]

50. self delete

Title corrected.