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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 02:07 PM
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My Mom Thinks Clark Will be the VP Choice
Hey, it's Mother's Day...!

And in my REALLY long distance phonecall home, that was one of the things she told me...

I hope she's right.
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 02:09 PM
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1. This Mom hopes so too, JCMach1
Happy Mother's Day to Mrs. JCMach1...:hi:
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 02:15 PM
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3. thanks Crew
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 02:14 PM
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2. Happy Mother's Day to your VERY, VERY,VERY,
HIGHLY intelligent Mom! :) I hope she's right!
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 02:18 PM
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4. That wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. I think Clark is a
tremendous choice for VP. Of course, Edwards is my man, and my first choice, but I really like Clark and believe he would bring a good balance to the ticket.
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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 02:21 PM
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5. I agree...
Edwards would be a fine veep, but Clark has just what is need to navigate through this fine mess that bus*h instigated. He'd be a great copilot.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 02:26 PM
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6. Wes would bring OK, AR, and MO into play!
maybe LA, and TN
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 05:57 PM
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14. So would Breaux and Edwards.
:)
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 07:35 PM
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19. Breaux would attract the Blue Dogs...
...and Red Dogs (pro-life liberals or neoprogressives) who'd otherwise vote Repuke because of the abortion issue.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 02:51 PM
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7. This mom is with your mom
in hoping that Clark is the next VP. Happy Mother's Day to your mom and all DU Moms.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 02:59 PM
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8. That would make this mom
really really happy. :loveya:

MzPip
:dem:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 03:07 PM
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9. Moms know these things!!
Here's a :kick: for moms, me included ;) !
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 03:09 PM
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10. Here's hoping Mom is right! Happy Mom's Day, DUers!
n/t
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 04:36 PM
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11. My mom thinks Richardson, or Edwards.
She says that if Kerry asks him for the good of the party, Richardson will say yes, because any good Democrat would, to help the party. She thinks Edwards is probably more popular, but appeals to a different electoral segment than does Richardson. She doesn't think anyone else is being considered, except as a courtesy.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 04:59 PM
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12. Minor correction: forgot to sign Paddy out before I posted. n/t
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 05:06 PM
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13. Moms everywhere love General HOTTIE
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 06:26 PM
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15. This mom.....
Certainly knows that Wes Clark is not only a HOTTIE....But the best man for the ticket...hands down!
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:22 PM
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22. How can any Mom not love that face or that man?
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 06:35 PM
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16. this mum
doesn't see the attraction at all, crozet. If General "Hottie" is the VP nominee it's going to make holding my nose on November 2 impossible.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 06:43 PM
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17. Bad taste is inherited, I hear....
Edited on Sun May-09-04 06:45 PM by Frenchie4Clark
So don't blame yourself for having bad taste.

You can always let your nose go when we win.

So until then, your are welcome to hold your nose. The discomfort of your two nostrils held (cause most will gladly welcome Clark on the ticket)is worth it to the many who will be able to let theirs go if and when Clark is announced as VP on the ticket!

Go Clark!.....Go Kerry!
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 06:46 PM
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18. ah yes
the sweet smell of speedo worship.

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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:34 PM
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23. Huh?
Yeah, I really don't get it. Clark was a poor speaker and was very unimpressive when he dropped out. The national ticket is not time for amatuer hour and Clark is a political amatuer. Since he has no voting record it's really anybody's guess what he would do if he ended up being President. Why take such a roll of the dice?

Personally I wish Clark would have gone for a US Senate seat from Arkansas before trying to jump into Presidential Politics.
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:41 AM
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24. What is totally beyond me
Is how anyone could say Clark is a poor speaker or umimpressive in any way. I don't believe that's an honest appraisal.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 02:25 PM
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27. Some sheeples
like repeating media memes. It makes them feel informed.
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MontecitoDem Donating Member (542 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 07:39 PM
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20. If Clark is the VP I will
reach my $2000 limit and work my butt off for Kerry. Clark is the man we needed all along!



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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 08:30 PM
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21. This mom and my mom too!
Go Wes Go!!!
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LeinesRed Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:58 AM
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25. My mom says the same thing...
she's been right for years about these things!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:06 AM
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26. This mom bows to your mom! She is wise!
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xkenx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 04:40 PM
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28. WHY WES CLARK


Why General Clark is the best choice for VP:

Polls show Kerry ahead of W on domestic issues, behind on national security. Overall a dead heat. W may creep up domestically as economy improves, so Kerry needs to siphon away some of W's support on security. This election WILL be about national security and terrorism because W will make it that way, and look at the headlines from Iraq dominating the news. Bush has already put Kerry on the defensive questioning Senate votes and the "ribbon-throwing" incident. All Bush has to do is neutralize Kerry on war/terror, and he keeps his lead. Kerry can co-opt the national security theme on Bush.
Enter Wes Clark: Clark can stand up and say, "Vietnam was a disaster, but I stayed in the military afterwards to build the great all-volunteer Army we have today. Sen. Kerry said "Send me to Vietnam" and served with great courage and honor in that war. Sen Kerry criticized that war afterwards, and I consider that dissent an act of patriotism, for he had the nation's best interests at heart. Sen. Kerry backed up that service by serving his country for these many years in the Senate, including not forgetting Vietnam as he worked with Sen.McCain for years to retrieve our POW's. I am proud to stand with Sen. Kerry, a man I consider to be one of the great patriots of our time". (As he wraps himself in the flag and talks about winning the only war NATO ever fought, this man who is one of the most decorated military heroes in U.S. history). This man can bring in military and ex-military votes which NO other VP candidate can do,and he is "squeaky-clean".

There are many other areas where Clark complements Kerry:

1.Ability to step into the Presidency if necessary. Clark has a career of military and diplomatic leadership unparalled. He has earned the respect of European leaders (he has even been knighted by a number of European nations)and understands the Arab world. NO ONE has Clark's credentials to help repair our alliances around the world and gracefully resolve the Iraq problem. Plus, something that many people do not realize, as one of our major military commanders, Clark had the "domestic affairs" responsibilities similar to those of mayors and governors. He was responsible for the everyday lives (schools, healthcare, safety, career advancement, etc.) of those under his command, numbering hundreds of thousands at times

2.Clark brings a "common man" background, someone who grew up poor, earned an appointment to West Point where he finished 1st in his class, became a decorated war hero--someone with the brains, talent, and drive to go into the business world and make lots of money--who instead chose to serve his country for another 30 years or so. If this man isn't a true American hero, I don't know who is.

3. Agreement on issues: Kerry and Clark are very closely in agreementon Foreign Affairs / Homeland Security issues as well as on Free Trade, and most domestic issues.

4. Campaigning against Bush: Clark has demonstrated, both during his campaign and since endorsing Kerry, that he is both loyal to Kerry and is a tireless campaigner against Bush. Clark has "fire in his belly" on defeating Bush. Clark can take on Bush/Cheney on all issues, especially those
where Bush would like to think he is strongest.

5. Helping to win Electoral Votes - Clark should help to win all the Swing States that Al Gore just missed winning and retain the Blue States that Bush would like to have. Most candidates are mentioned because they might win one state for Kerry, Clark could help in ALL of the above swing states. This is because he is an Arkansas Southerner who also proved to be popular in the Southwest and among Hispanics and American Indians. In fact, with General Clark's military background and "All American" image he has more popularity than most democrats such as John Kerry in all parts of the country where Republicans tend to be popular. With his Military Supreme Commander status, if he could get just 10% of military families to vote Democratic (who would otherwise vote Republican) this could change the outcome in a number of states. Although Wes is now a very progressive Democrat, his past background makes people feel secure. His comfort with Religion also helps. Both Kerry and Clark have a long history of using guns (despite being pro gun control.)

6. Taking on Dick Cheney: There will be a VP debate. Only Clark can face Cheney and cite Pentagon "inside information" about how Cheney decided from the beginning to go to war with Iraq. On all military related issues, Clark will be more believable than Cheney to millions of swing voters.

7. Raising funds for Kerry: This is very important to Kerry since Bush has raised so much money. It was Wes Clark who raised almost $9 million in January alone, pre-matching funds. This was about 2 million more than his closest rival. In the 5 months of his campaign, he raised about as much as Dean. While Dean started the Internet dominance, Clark continued it with equal success and still has the best web site and Blog Community around. Since Dean isn't suitable as Kerry's VP, Clark is the best choice to attract the "outsider" type people who support Dean. Clark was often the 2nd choice among Dean supporters and their 1st choice for VP under Dean. In summary, with Clark as VP choice, there would be BY FAR the largest fundraising boost to the Kerry campaign as well as a likely union with Howard Dean and his supporters. Lets also remember that Clark was the most popular with the wealthy and powerful Hollywood crowd.

8. Mutual respect: Since Kerry and his VP choice will probably be together for months, getting along with mutual respect is very important. They have to be able to share each other's secrets. As was demonstrated in Wisconsin, their mutual respect for each other's careers is apparent.

9. Kerry and Clark already have a name for their ticket that no one else can claim, "TWO PATRIOTS, ONE MISSION." This alone will be worth millions in free advertising. Undecided voters are easily swayed by these powerful slogans.

10. Appeal to the Church going Americans and Patriotism-Wes Clark has a background that includes several faiths. He is the "most comfortable" of all the major VP contenders with "God" and "American Patriotism". The Flag really means something to him. This is why he is a danger to Republicans in all parts of the country. He still is Karl Rove's worst Nightmare.

11. Is VP the best position for Clark? Some would say that Clark should be saved for Secretary of State or National Security Adviser. However, if we waited, it is very possible that Kerry would lose a close election. Additionally, as VP, as long as Kerry respects Clark, he could be used as a 2nd Secretary of State, Defense and Homeland Security. As shown by Cheney, a VP can be very powerful when they are strong and respected in National Security issues.

Please, for the good of the country, select Wes Clark.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 04:55 PM
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29. Welcome, xkenx..... I love your analysis
Thanks!
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:05 PM
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30. My parents disagree.
They believe it will be Edwards.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 06:06 PM
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31. My parents disagree.
They believe it will be Edwards.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:04 PM
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32. This mom
wanted WES CLARK for mother's day. Nobody delivered, more's the pity.
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