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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:44 AM
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Clinton's fantasy trip to Bosnia meets reality - the vetting begins
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 09:59 AM by rndmprsn
hahahah...what a freaking liar!

let the vetting of hillary begin...

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/03/hillarys_balkan_adventures_par.html




"I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."

--Hillary Clinton, speech at George Washington University, March 17, 2008.


(my oh my!)

Hillary Clinton has been regaling supporters on the campaign trail with hair-raising tales of a trip she made to Bosnia in March 1996. In her retelling, she was sent to places that her husband, President Clinton, could not go because they were "too dangerous." When her account was challenged by one of her traveling companions, the comedian Sinbad, she upped the ante and injected even more drama into the story. In a speech earlier this week, she talked about "landing under sniper fire" and running for safety with "our heads down."

There are numerous problems with Clinton's version of events...
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:51 AM
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1. Ruh roh Raggy, this story has links and everything
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 09:57 AM by stop the bleeding
She needs to give us clarification on this.:beer:

That video is really damning to her claims.

edit to add:




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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:16 AM
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24. Sinbad is only person to say she is wrong - not much to hang a story on
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:19 AM
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25. the truth is harsh...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOsGo_HWP-c

blind faith in clinton syndrome is hard to break...my hopes are with you.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:47 PM
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28. poor sinbad, tells the truth and gets smacked for it. fortunately
there is video. spin that.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:18 PM
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36. I guess details, facts etc were not your strong subject(s) in school
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 03:20 PM by stop the bleeding
Go back and read the article, watch the video, read the schedule, and last but not least please quote back to me what Gen Nash said.

I expect no response since it is clear you reside on Mars.:beer:
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:00 PM
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46. i love it when the crickets come out to play. It's a full concert these days....
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Morereason Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:02 AM
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49. Not a Clinton supporter, but this is being a little simplified
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 01:03 AM by Morereason
Probably she was made to feel like she was in danger as those around her were zealous to keep her safe. Indeed there was no "ceremony", as usually there would be music and a more official welcome for a foreign dignitory. Maybe she embellished a bit, but not any more than many others would do in telling a story. Flying in would be fairly safe, but come on, it is not like flying in the states, she could have had a shell launched at her plane, at least more possible than what she might be used to.

LOL, you won't see me complimenting her as a candidate often, I do not care for her. But there are much more serious criticisms to be made.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:37 AM
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56. My husband is an Air Force officer --He highly doubts they would
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 01:40 AM by wienerdoggie
have put the First Lady and Chelsea in any danger--they would have diverted if there was any report of trouble on the ground.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:10 AM
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50. THERE IS INDISPUTABLE VIDEO EVIDENCE,,, hang your story on that
Sinbad is more credible than your candidate... sad



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOsGo_HWP-c
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:46 PM
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35. Heh
Thanks for inspiring my avatar for today. }(
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:53 AM
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2. I don't understand how someone so intelligent...
...thought she could get away with this. The same goes for all the other distortions that have come from her or her campaign. I don't get it. Do they really think people don't pay attention? I have a feeling that it indicates a real contempt for the intelligence not only of the average voter, but of the media as a whole.

In OH, she might have a point (NAFTA)... that was much too easy. And I'm in OH, I know, LOL.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:18 AM
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9. no CL
they think we're all stupid and that politics and all the nuances attached to it are way over our heads. Just like the Bush Administration never figured we could figger out how to eews The Googill...the Clinton camp COUNTS on people being misinformed
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:43 AM
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21. "figger out how to eews The Googill"
:rofl:

Once upon a time, if I had politically like-minded co-workers in the office, I was always the one to provide them with links to articles, videos, etc. Today, there are 2 other strong Obama supporters in my office, and they watch CNN & MSNBC as religiously as I do, know everything already that I glean from here and every other source, and sometimes offer new sources. The days of thinking that voters are too dumb or busy or lazy to look something up are over - everybody knows at least one political junkie who will fill in the blanks. Hellooo!
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:59 AM
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23. the media will never treat this like the Wright story
so she doesn't have to worry. she has cover.
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:36 PM
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32. no, they won't ... it's not "incendiary" enough...
Good grief. :(
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:48 PM
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29. I've seen it in kids. they want it so bad, it warps them a bit. she's
so intent on getting there she doesn't care how badly things go along the way.
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:35 PM
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31. right... and they figure...
...win the nomination first. Burn bridges and people along the way, who cares... we can mend fences afterwards and everyone will love us again.

Not this time.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:54 AM
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3. Off to the greatest page with thee...in praise of Hillary the Liar!
Unbelievable lie on this...I wonder how in the hell she thought no one would catch her.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:56 AM
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4. She's clearly pushing that girl to safety! Shame on you!!!
:grr:
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:05 AM
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5. But is this actually running 24/7 nonstop on the cable news channels? Unfortunately the facts
w/o the exposure doesn't mean as much.
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stahbrett Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:06 AM
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6. I see NO problem with Hillary's version of the airport landing
She apparently just left out a small fact... the fact that she apparently decided to use a small child as a human shield.

:D
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:07 AM
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7. Obama considers "fantasy" a racist term
If Clinton were AA, you would be called a racist, no?
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:21 AM
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10. ...as OzarkDem frantically pushes the race button, trying to make the story go away.
:rofl:

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:27 AM
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12. Actually just highlighting Obama's race baiting
I'd like to see him just run on his own merits and stand on the issues.

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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:49 AM
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47. And whatever else ... please don't point out any of Hillary's lies, please. n/t
:rofl:
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:28 AM
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15. the sad thing is......Obama is unlikely to push this personally
but this will make a devastating ad in November. It will make the Dukakis tank ad look minor by comparison and be much more effective than the swiftboat ads ever were.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:50 AM
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48. ha! The Dukakis tank photo was *just* what I thought of when seeing Hillary's presser ...
... spouting on and on about C-17s, et al, and running head-down for their cars. So tragic.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:25 AM
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11. I have tried so hard not to put you on ignore.
But enough is enough. What the fuck does racism have to do with this story? Go take a long look in the mirror and search your soul.
And if you reply, I won't know it. Thank God for the ignore feature.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:28 AM
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14. Give her a break...She doesn't have much to work with now
Doesn't want to get suspended again for running around GDP calling Obama a Muslim all the livelong day.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:33 AM
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19. I didn't know she used to do that.
Well hell. I woulda had her on iggy long before now. LOL, my whole 2 or 3 weeks here. :)
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:28 AM
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16. Well, I have no problem with putting you on my ignore list. Enjoy the company...
:eyes:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:50 PM
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30. what? AA? what are you saying?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:39 PM
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33. bwahahaha
there's stupid and pathetic and then there's the zenith of stupid and pathetic as so starkly depicted by all your posts. Thanks for the giggle though.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:29 AM
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54. Can't counter Clinton's LIES so you play the race card?
A winner is you!
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:08 AM
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8. We've already had 8 years of a compulsive liar. I'll pass.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:28 AM
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13. K&R
:kick:
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:29 AM
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17. This sounds like something Bill O'Reilly would make up to sound tough. nt
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:32 AM
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18. Chelsea as sniper bait? What an awful mother to bring her daughter
into the line of fire and make her stand on the tarmac like that awaiting a sniper's bullet.

Hillary....your 15 minutes of fame are up. Drop out now.
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:34 AM
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20. She'll say, do anything to get elected. Bush-lite in a skirt. rec'd
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:45 AM
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22. Liar, Liar, Pantsuit on Fire!
What a bullshit artist...
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:22 AM
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26. This story fills me with amusement
:D
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:11 PM
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27. Hillary arrives in Tuzla! Head down - running for cover!
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:48 PM
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37. LOL!
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:39 PM
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34. Where is the M$M outrage about the lies? K&R
:shrug:

How many more lies have been told by this campaign? The slogan should be "35 years of fictional experience".
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:52 PM
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38. Link:
http://thepage.time.com/clinton-camp-memo-on-obamas-foreign-policy-attacks/

Bosnia
The Obama campaign has resorted to mocking Hillary’s trip to Bosnia in 1996, belittling it as a U.S.O. tour and saying there was no danger. But Hillary toured the frontlines of the international peacekeeping mission. CNN reported:

At a second outpost, Camp Bedrock, Mrs. Clinton visited a M.A.S.H. unit, the only full-service U.S. Army hospital in Bosnia. The three-hour tour of the frontlines of the international peacekeeping mission were filled with the gritty reality of a military operation, a far cry from traditional first lady photo opportunities, and Mrs. Clinton seemed more than comfortable with that.

A day later, the Charleston Gazette reported that “Protected by sharpshooters, Hillary Rodham Clinton swooped into a military zone by Black Hawk helicopter Monday…This trip to Bosnia marks the first time since Roosevelt that a first lady has voyaged to a potential combat zone…”



If the CNN and Charlotte Observer citations aren't correct, we'll hear about it. If they are correct, then she her statement appears to be supported...
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:54 PM
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39. That doesn't back up her claims.
She claimed she landed under sniper fire. Neither of those articles support that claim.
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 04:05 PM
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40. thanks another clinton attempt at obfuscation and distortion
bites the dust...
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:14 AM
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51. Try this link instead please
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 04:59 PM
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41. "roll the tape"
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 05:02 PM by 4themind
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOsGo_HWP-c>
No greeting ceremony huh....
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:17 PM
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45. Hahahahahahaha !! Oh Mercy!
Spin it Hill, spin it!!

:rofl:

She is so full of it claiming she was on a C-17 because of its "evasive manuever" ability. The C-17 is the workhorse US transport plane and the reason she was on one is because that's what flew into Tuzla EVERY DAY. My God, this woman is morally unfit to be a senator, much less a President.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 05:27 PM
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42. kicking
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 05:31 PM
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43. Kick
:kick:
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 05:36 PM
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44. I'm still amazed at how the Clintons LIE like video tape was never invented
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:19 AM
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52. How romantic it obviously was for her to be running through the sniper fire. (nt)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:24 AM
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53. YouTube video:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:31 AM
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55. But...but...Hillary not only landed under sniper fire...
she took out the snipers with laser beams fired from her eyes. Yea, that's the ticket.
Then she tracked down Slobbodan, ripped off his arms, and beat him to death with them.
Yeah, that's exactly what happened.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:58 AM
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57. kick
:dem:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:15 AM
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58. A picture's
worth a thousand words. It's hard to believe the gall of the Clintons, they must think we're all gullible and stupid. :-(
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