So Carville thinks Richardson betrayed Hillary by endorsing Obama but not by running against her?

[Radical Activist]

Can someone explain that to me?
I guess Richardson running didn't count? I think it says a lot about the patronizing, dismissive attitude the Clintons had about Richardson's candidacy from the start.


on edit:

Here's a link to the quote I saw since not as many people have heard it as I thought...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/22/us/politics/22richardson.html

The reaction of some of Mr. Clinton’s allies suggests that might have been a wise decision. “An act of betrayal,” said James Carville, an adviser to Mrs. Clinton and a friend of Mr. Clinton.

“Mr. Richardson’s endorsement came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate, if ironic,” Mr. Carville said, referring to Holy Week.

[mattclearing]

1. LOL. Carville's IQ has sunk a bit since 92. Must be all those years married to Matalin. n/t

[redstate_democrat]

45. Carvile's outrade is so fake

Nothing this man does is off the cuff. This is a snarky political ploy right here. You wanna guess which card is being played.

Yup. Pretend to be outraged when they KNEW Richardson was going to go for Obama, otherwise, he would have already endorsed Hillary. They made him WAIT until after March 4th and then they were going to throw him under the bus after they got out of primaries where Hispanic voters could turn the race. They get to do it with cover because Richardson "betrayed" them and garner some sympathy. Gloves off. They are playing a race card here. It's subliminal, no doubt, but they are painting a picture of the "blacks" and the "hispanics" joining forces to take down the "reasonable, moderate, good ole American" Clintons. How dare they. Add to that those hippie, tree hugging, commie progressives and you have a dangerous situation on your hands.

THAT is what all of this faux outrage is about. They want to create a division and then focus in on it. They want it to appear that Hillary is being betrayed by the "people they helped the most". Racist buggers will run to her in droves.

[mattclearing]

46. Too bad the people that buy into that are mostly on the other side of the aisle.

Maybe Bill and Hill would have been better off over there...it seems more and more like Michael Moore was right about them, and the DLC was always that way.

[jgraz]

47. Well, the Clintonites think experience is an STD. Maybe stupidity is as well.

[loveangelc]

2. when did he say this?

[Radical Activist]

7. Here's where I saw it.

The reaction of some of Mr. Clinton’s allies suggests that might have been a wise decision. “An act of betrayal,” said James Carville, an adviser to Mrs. Clinton and a friend of Mr. Clinton.

“Mr. Richardson’s endorsement came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate, if ironic,” Mr. Carville said, referring to Holy Week.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/22/us/politics/22richardson.html

[Cha]

3. So carville got his head on tv

and said that?

[saltpoint]

4. Carville's married to Dick Cheney's errand girl and he's braying about

Richardson and betrayal?

Good god.

[Ichingcarpenter]

21. Sickening isn't it?

[Radical Activist]

25. LOL

And I used to really like the guy.

[saltpoint]

32. There's ol' Jim now. He and the missus are junk theater, IMO.

And Gollum is far more handsome!

[Muttocracy]

5. I think you're right. nt

[PM7nj]

6. Ugh... Carville the bug

Whenever my mom sees Carville on CNN she calls me up and says, "Guess what the bug just said!?"

[anonymous171]

8. Clintons' are big believers in cronyism.

Richardson forgot that he OWED the Clinton's loyalty, regardless of his personal beliefs.

[thoughtcrime1984]

9. Enough about Carville being a Dem. He is not.

He is a Republican masquerading as one of us, and quite poorly at that. I think the line between the Clintons and the Republican threshhold is pretty damn blurry, too.

[tammywammy]

10. I think you might be on to something here

Richardson has the right to endorse whomever he wants. (the same for Edwards too)

[KingOfLostSouls]

11. Carville is a bag of assholes

Carville is a traitor to the democratic party, period.


not only does he believe the best way to win an election is capitulation to republicans

BUT

he then calls for the removal of the DNC Chairman who brought us victory in 2006


carville is trash. he needs to be marched out of the party.

[kwenu]

12. A true Clinton Royalist would help Hillary steal the nomination, not follow his conscience...

and endorse the best candidate who also leads in the race.

[The_Casual_Observer]

13. Is this an exercise for the LSAT ?

[Frank Booth]

18. LOL. It reminds me of one of those horrible practice questions.

Anyway, I guess we all can agree that Carville's reaction just proves Richardson's decision correct.

[The_Casual_Observer]

27. Tis the season for betrayal.

Easter & all.

[Frank Booth]

31. You're right. That was a horrible thing that Carville said.

[slinkerwink]

14. wow. That's unbelievably classless of the Clintons.

[NJSecularist]

15. Carville is a pretty big Democrat...

but he has had a tough time keeping his marriage and his work seperate. And that's been a huge problem the last few years especially.

[BlueIdaho]

16. Personally

I could give a shit what that politcal vampire thinks.

[2rth2pwr]

17. Everyone knew, including Richardson that he had no chance, he

barely was able to fake caring and you could see it at the debates.

[Radical Activist]

23. Oh yeah, some hispanic guy running for President. Clinton knew it didn't really count.

And the ingratitude after they gave him those affirmative action hand out appointments!

Is that how the thinking goes? Somehow I think that's how Carville sees it, if not Bill and Hillary. I've long sensed that there's a lot of racial condescension going on in the Hillary-Richardson public relationship.

[2rth2pwr]

36. Racism! (tm) as soon as he joins the Obama team.

How much over 0% did he poll, or get?

[karynnj]

19. Does anyone else find this sacriligious?

This almost associates the Clintons to Jesus. That is pretty presumptuous - and I'm Jewish.

[slinkerwink]

20. it's the last victim card they can play

[Radical Activist]

29. It's the ultimate act of playing the poor "martyr card."

[slinkerwink]

33. Obama is crucifying me! Vote against him to save my candidacy!

[tammywammy]

24. Yeah, I read that in there too

:crazy:

[DearAbby]

22. What a puke inducing statement that was....

"An act of betrayal came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate."

And now Saint Hillary will be crucified?

James James, didn't ya get the memo...Richardson's endorsement doesn't mean a thing?

[anonymous171]

26. It plays into their entitlement complex.

Obama stole poor Hillawy's nomination and now he's making her friends betray her.

[DearAbby]

43. That's right

They never dreamed that this neophite could actually take this away from them. They (Hillary) has ran this campaign, up until Super Tuesday, like it was already a given, It was her time...she was entitled.

[blonndee]

28. Holy crap--Carville is a nasty piece of work.

I can only imagine what Bill had to listen to from the Clintons when he delivered the news.

This just shows he DID make the right decision. Who the hell do they think they are, anyway? Um, Jesus?

[Samantha]

30. Carville was looking for a gravy position with the Clinton administration

He and Begala both. Richardson has diminished his chances for that.

[Cha]

42. I know..they're super bummed and

bitter and they'll stoop to anything even if it means bringing up Judas and 30 pieces of silver to coincide with Easter.

[madfloridian]

34. Sorry I posted after you did. I did a quick search and did not see this.

I try not o duplicate.

[Radical Activist]

35. This thread probably posted after you searched.

Yours was only a few minutes later.

[grantcart]

37. Here is the reason

HRC will always poll between 40 and 45% she has a firm floor and a firm ceiling. If they divide the race with a bunch of candidates 40% looks great. When there is only two 45% looks like a loser. They wanted a lot of candidates they never thought it would go down to 2 candidates so fast and that is why they never looked beyond super duper tuesday at 40% they would have had massive landslides.

[w13rd0]

38. Isn't it highly distasteful...

...for Carville to try and claim that Richardson endorsing Obama is in any way morally equivalent with Judas betraying Jesus? Is Senator Clinton now the modern incarnation of Jesus? Are Richardsons actions leading to Senator Clinton being tied to a tree and left to die? Jesus, isn't Carville a little old to be all "emo"?

[JVS]

39. If they want to claim this isn't a big deal, they shouldn't act so hurt. It looks bad.

[Demobrat]

40. To betray somebody you have to first owe them your loyalty.

And Richardson owed her why, again?

[Colobo]

41. I love to see Carville desperate.

[AllentownJake]

44. I can't wait

Till this damn primary is over and we can all go back to being friends. I like the Ragin Cajun. I support Obama. When this is over I'll be happy when he's on our team.

[autorank]

48. Guy gave up the goods on election night. How can he show his face? n/t

[kevinmc]

49. Carville is married to a Dick Cheney lover .... Checkmate, Richardson n/t

[Major Hogwash]

50. Carville quoting the Bible, that's ironic considering he stabbed Kerry in the back in 2004.

According to Shrum's book.

You know, sleeping with Mary Matalin every night must have had an affect on that numbskull.
Matalin claimed that Valerie Plame was not a covert CIA officer on Imus' radio program last year - Imus called her a liar, and she was so upset about being called a liar she called back in to the program to whine about it.

Carville needs to examine what him and his fuckin' candidate are doing to this country by fomenting racism.
Ferraro and Bubba have said some really stupid fuckin' racist things lately - and I wish they would just get off of the stage and go back under the rock they crawled out from under.