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acrosstheuniverse Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:27 PM
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Mccain is beating Obama in all National Polls
Thanks Hillary for dragging this out until the convention. There are only 9 weeks left from the convention to election day. It would have been great if the American people could compare Obama with Mccain starting about now. But no Hillary's ego has to fuck up the party, this country, and therefore the world.

Just so she can bitch, complain, and whine about the vast right wing conspiracy out to get her and her husband the day after she loses the general election and we have new Republican majorities in both houses of Congress.
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:30 PM
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1. This is March--just chill. Obama will be president--just
imagine a McCain Obama debate.McCain will look the tired slow old man that he is--it won't be pretty.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:00 PM
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24. Amen. The best I could hope for in an Obama-McCain debate...
is that Grampa remembers to wear pants and put in his teeth.

If he manages to make an ounce of sense I'd be surprised. He can't seem to avoid saying stuff that makes him look like he got confused and wandered away from his retirement community.

I think it was him equating Purim to Halloween that really got me. Yeah. And Ramadan is like Groundhogs Day.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:18 PM
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28. What's even better? 5 Obama/McCain debates! Totally unfair!
No doubt, after the first two shut out performances, Obama's so nice, he'll take pity on the old guy and start throwing him compliments!

Gramps is sunk when he has to really get into a race. He was spared it by the GOP sideshow with the mormon and the crossdresser and the actor. I mean, really. This man has not seen any action yet.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:30 PM
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2. How is Hillary doing against McCain in the National Polls? Thanks. nt
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:30 PM
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3. Hillary does well in actual elections in battle ground states
Wait till you see the total ass kicking she give the souless empty suit in Pennsylvania. Hillary's opponent releys on commielike caucusces and Republican votes in open primaries.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:31 PM
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4. Hillary can't win the primaries.....so what makes you think she could
win a general election?
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:38 PM
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13. You think Obama can win red states without

all those Repubs crossing over to vote for him?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Your guy is TOAST, and, thanks to him, we'll all be stuck with McCain.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:44 PM
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18. What I believe is that what he brings to the table is far more superior
to what Hillary brings; charisma, new voters, enthusiasm, a new page, honesty, honor, values, and leadership.

So roll around and laugh if you want to.......but he who laughs last, laughs best. I'll hold mine in till then.
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:56 PM
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22. She actually has been winning the big states. If it were all primaries and winner take all - she
she would already be the nominee..

It's caucuses, red states, and the proportionate delegate system that have kept Barack afloat.

Remember, in the General Election, it's winner take all!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:32 PM
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5. Commielike? Are you channeling Joe McCarthy? Wow. nt
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cantinflaz Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:32 PM
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6. Hillary had nothing to do with the release of the Wright video tapes
Which was the event that sank Obama's national poll numbers.

But blaming Clinton is more fun than blaming Brian Ross from ABC News and conservative pundits from Fox, Washington Post opinion-ed, WSJ opinion, etc. etc. for bashing Barack over the pastor.

Learn how to think.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:40 PM
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14. someone kept fanning the flames of racism..
as a matter of fact they still are. The Clinton Campaign has a disturbing pattern of stuff like this...

and "classy" battle...
December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail

A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out. "Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html


Kerrey Apologizes to Obama Over Remark
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4031436
Kerrey's mention of Obama's middle name and his Muslim roots raised eyebrows because they are also used as part of a smear campaign on the Internet that falsely suggests Obama is a Muslim who wants to bring jihad to the United States.
Obama is a Christian.
The Clinton campaign has already fired two volunteer county coordinators in Iowa for forwarding hoax e-mails with the debunked claim. Last week, a national Clinton campaign co-chairman resigned for raising questions about whether Obama's teenage drug use could be used against him, so Kerrey's comments raised questions about whether the Clinton campaign might be using another high-profile surrogate to smear Obama.



Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs


Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance
By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008
The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's
Super Tuesday primary, which she won.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-

2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html


Source: Newsday
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Barack Obama Accepts Apology From Hillary Clinton
Washington D.C. 12/15/2007 09:17 AM GMT (FINDITT)

Hillary Clinton went straight to Barack Obama with an apology following a staffer's remarks about any skeletons that may be lurking in Obama's closet, pointing out that she had accepted the staffer's resignation over the disparaging remarks. Obama accepted her at her word, according to his campaign staff, and is moving on without letting it interrupt his campaign plans.


Obama is currently leading the polls in Iowa and New Hampshire, the two early primary states often considered key to the process, according to numbers at usaelectionpolls.com, but on a national level Clinton still holds a huge lead. The most recently posted poll results show Obama with 31 percent of the
probable voters in New Hampshire backing him with 29 percent showing support for Clinton.
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=30629&cat=5

Clinton Camp Pushes O-Bomber Links: Ignores
Her Own Radical Ties
By: Justin Rood

ABC News - The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group
mentioned in the Obama stories."Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the 1970s group Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001.
In a separate e-mail, Singer forwarded an article from the Politico newspaper reporting on a 1995 event at a private home that brought Obama together with Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, another member of the radical group.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4330128&page=1


Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says. Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in
her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)


http://graphics.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080112_nevada_lawsuit.pdf
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/a-feisty-bill-

clinton-defends-nevada-lawsuit/
CLINTON ALLIES SUPPRESS THE VOTE IN NEVADA...
On Meet the Press on Sunday, Hillary Clinton said her campaign had nothing to do with a lawsuit--written about by Nation Editor Katrina vanden Heuvel--that threatens to prevent thousands of workers from voting in the Nevada caucus on Saturday.
Back in March, the Nevada Democratic Party agreed to set up caucus locations on the Vegas strip for low-income shift workers, many of them members of the state's influential Culinary Union, who commute long distances to work and wouldn't be able to get home in time to caucus. It was an uncontroversial idea until the Culinary Union endorsed Barack Obama and the Nevada State Education Association, whose top officials support Clinton, sued to shut down the caucus sites.
The Clinton camp played dumb until yesterday, when President Clinton came out in favor of the lawsuit.
Clinton's comments drew a heated response from D. Taylor, the head of Nevada's Culinary Union, on MSNBC's Hardball. "He is in support of disenfranchising thousands upon thousands of workers, not even just our members," Taylor said of Clinton. "The teachers union is just being used here. We understand that This is the Clinton campaign. They tried to disenfranchise students in Iowa. Now they're trying to
disenfranchise people here in Nevada, who are union members and people of color and women."

Rank-and-file members of Nevada's teachers union also come out against the lawsuit filed by their leadership. "We never thought our union and Senator Clinton would put politics ahead of what's right for our students, but that's exactly what they're doing," the letter stated. "As teachers, and proudmDemocrats, we hope they will drop this undemocratic lawsuit and help all Nevadans caucus, no matter which candidate they support."
The lawsuit's opponents make a persuasive point. Creating obstacles to voting is what the GOP does to Democrats, not what Democrats should be doing to other Democrats.


Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.

Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html


January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”



COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized
for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-

johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34


Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET
The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
----------
Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
-------------------------
Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:32 PM
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7. McCain..... if he were to read DU daily, he still wouldn't get it.
He equates giving the Iraqis back their soverignity, (shrubspeak) with defeat. He's definitely old school, a hero to be sure, but old school and that may or may not work in todays global landscape.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:32 PM
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8. Obama will completely dismantle McCain.
I'm not worried one bit. He hasn't even hardly addressed McCain yet.
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cantinflaz Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:34 PM
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9. LIke the media will say, "aww man, Hillary retired so we must stop attacking Barack"
You keep wishing that's the way things work with our mainstream media.
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:42 PM
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16. LOL, like they will be nice and quiet about Hillary?
If Hillary is the nominee it will be all the crap from the 90s times ten... Travelgate, troopergate, Pardongate, Monica, Whitewater, Vince Foster, Cattle futures... oh, I can't wait for all that again!
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:35 PM
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10. The heated primary didn't help, but RW radio's bogus "Pastorgate" story did a lot of damage as well
It's a shame that people fall for this. But now that the truth is out about "Pastorgate", hopefully the American people will come back to their senses.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:36 PM
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11. Only for now
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:37 PM
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12. Well, Obie IS going thru a rough time in his campaign, so that's to be expected.
And with the Dems fighting each other and leaving McCain alone, relatively, and the media letting him have a free ride, sure, the polls would be reflecting that.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:41 PM
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15. WHO's whining, bitching, and complaining?
crawl back under your rock
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:44 PM
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17. Bravo, it's Daily Kos and the worst of DU all rolled into one!
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:47 PM
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19. If She Doesn't Break 60% in Pennsylvania, She Needs to Come Home
Especially since her campaign is broke because they can't run a budget.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:48 PM
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20. Dude, this isn't even the spring training of politics
.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:50 PM
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21. Everything is HER fault
Waaahhhhh! :cry:
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:58 PM
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23. So Obama's unelectability is all Hillary's fault. M'kay.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:08 PM
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25. Don't blame Hillary.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:27 PM
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26. Dont forget that the media and the polls told us the GE was...
between Clinton and Giuliani. They don't make the choice, we do, so don't believe the hype! The elite wanted Clinton and Giuliani and the people said...oh no. Now they want Clinton and McCain and the people need to say again...Oh no! We need to hope that the Clintons wont keep dividing the party but I don't see that happening, they are just trying to please their boss'!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:39 PM
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27. Got a link or something?
Thanks.
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