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chocome Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:14 PM
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Breaking!Obama camp lies and claims that HRC didn’t deserve credit for Family and Medical Leave Ac...
His campaign must be run by political rookies..sure..politics are dirty..but hey, they should do their homework before playing in the big leagues.
If you are going to make a spin...base your arguments on facts that can be interpreted...not plain, old fucking lies...

His negatives are in the 50 % target range, and 1/3 HRC voters will NOT vote for Obama. Instead of trying to build a bridge towards her and Clinton voters, he is digging his own grave with this bull shit rhetoric aimed for his Obama bots fans that never, ever will see that their hero is just another politician, that happens to be black..



http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=6670

Today, the Obama campaign falsely claimed that Hillary didn’t deserve credit for helping pass the Family and Medical Leave Act:

Obama campaign memo: There are no mentions of the Family and Medical Leave Act on Clinton’s schedule before bill signing it into law even though she gives herself credit for “helping to pass” the bill. “One notable absence in the 11,000 pages of the former First Lady’s schedule from the National Archives released today — any mention on her schedules of the Family and Medical Leave Act before her husband signed the bill into law. That’s interesting, because in speeches and on her website, the Clinton campaign repeatedly gives Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, credit for “helping to pass” the Family and Medical Leave Act.”

The Obama campaign is wrong. Hillary was a longtime supporter of the legislation. The Family and Medical Leave Act was the first law that President Clinton signed; it was enacted less than a month after his inauguration. Hillary hosted a conference promoting FMLA in 1988, advocated for it on the campaign trail in 1992, and lobbied lawmakers in her first month as First Lady. Days after she met with Members of Congress about the bill, it passed by both houses of Congress and was signed by the President, and Hillary attended the Rose Garden ceremony. Since its passage, she has called for its expansion and as President will continue to expand it. Today, more than 60 million working Americans benefit from the Family and Medical Leave Act.

Testimonials of Hillary’s work on the Family and Medical Leave Act:

Debra Ness, President of the National Partnership for Women and Families: "Hillary was instrumental in getting the Family and Medical Leave Act signed into law. We at the National Partnership for Women & Families as well as other family and labor groups had been pushing for the law for nearly 10 years. Hillary brought her work and experience on behalf of children and working families to the campaign trail in 1991 and 1992 and knew the importance of getting this legislation passed immediately. Two weeks after President Clinton was inaugurated, it was done."
Judy Lichtman, former president of the National Partnership for Women and Families and chair of coalition that worked for 9 long years for FMLA passage: "Spawned by the release of Senator Hillary Clinton's White House schedule, there have been a number of negative and erroneous comments about Hillary's leadership role in securing passage of the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA). I have unique and specific recollections about the Senator's important role in securing FMLA's enactment into law, stemming from my central leadership in the bill's development and strategy for passage. In early 1992, I approached Hillary Clinton, seeking her help in convincing her husband to adopt FMLA passage as a campaign issue and priority. She immediately saw the importance of enacting a public policy that would allow working men and women to be responsible workers and responsible family members. She talked to him, and got back to me very promptly with an affirmative response. I can say unequivocally that without her advocacy, this would not have been a priority. In 1993, barely two weeks elapsed between the inaugural and President Clinton's Rose Garden ceremony, evidencing the strong commitment of both Clintons in enacting a public policy that truly reflects family values. I am such a strong advocate for Hillary's candidacy and am working for the campaign, in large measure, because of her ongoing and continuous leadership on issues important to the well being of women and families. All Americans can trust that their struggles are her agenda, and as President, she will work hard every day to make this world a better place, ensuring that their concerns are addressed by their Commander-in-Chief."
News Reports of Hillary’s work on the Family and Medical Leave Act:

In 1988, Hillary headed the host committee for Pat Schroeder’s Great American Family Tour, which advocated for FMLA. “Presidential candidates are ignoring family problems in their rush to address ‘power issues’ like arms control and the budget deficit, Representative Patricia Schroeder said Wednesday…Schroeder, who considered entering the presidential race last year, spoke at a news conference marking the final stop of the Great American Family Tour, which seeks to gather support for family and medical leave, child care, equal pay, housing and health care. … Governor Bill Clinton and his wife, Hillary, welcomed the tour to Little Rock at the First United Methodist Church Day Care Center at Eighth Avenue and Center Street. Mrs. Clinton, who is chairman of the Children's Defense Fund, headed the host committee."

Hillary called passage of Family and Medical Leave Act on the campaign trail in 1992. “Taking a swipe at the Bush administration, Clinton told the audience that ‘we need policies that go beyond rhetoric about family values.’ Working mothers ‘have a 24-hour-a-day job at home and an 8-hour-a-day job,’ she said. ‘We ought to consider actually implementing policies like the Family and Medical Leave Act, which sends a very clear signal that we're not just giving lip service to supporting families.’"

As First Lady, Hillary lobbied for the Family and Medical Leave Act. "Despite another round of consultations that Thursday brought President Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton and Vice President Al Gore to Capitol Hill on three separate lobbying missions, the Democrats couldn't win speedy enactment of a relatively simple bill that has overwhelming bipartisan support. Senate passage Thursday night of the Family and Medical Leave bill came only after three days of delaying tactics by the Republicans who succeeded in forcing reluctant Democrats to vote on whether to block Mr. Clinton from lifting the ban on homosexuals in the military… But Mr. Clinton, Mrs. Clinton, and Mr. Gore all demonstrated Thursday how concerned they are about keeping the Democratic troops in line with an extraordinary display of White House lobbying that kept the Secret Service motorcade crews busy all day."

Hillary spoke about the importance of extending the Family Medical Leave Act at the 1996 Democratic Convention. “President Clinton, she said in her address to the Democratic National Convention, would seek legislation guaranteeing six months of health insurance for parents who lose their jobs and longer hospital stays for new mothers, as well as an extension of the Family and Medical Leave Law so parents could take time off from jobs for children's doctor appointments and teacher conferences.

As Senator, Hillary has worked to build on the Family and Medical Leave Act. Earlier this year, Hillary successfully expanded the Family and Medical Leave Act to families of wounded soldiers. Hillary cosponsored the Family and Medical Leave Expansion Act and the Healthy Families Act. She has also introduced legislation to extend the Family and Medical Leave Act to flight attendants and pilots.
Hillary proposed to expand FMLA as president. On October 16th, Hillary unveiled a plan to help working parents balance work and family by expanding access to paid leave through a State Family Leave Innovation Fund, expanding FMLA to cover employees working in businesses with 25 employees or more, down from 50, providing 7 sick days for every full-time worker, and more.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:15 PM
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1. Hillary cannot win. She is out by the math. See today's Politico article. It's over.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:08 PM
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22. but how
does your meme relate to how O. camp is lying again?

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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:16 PM
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2. Much to say about nothing. Where's the link to the "lie"?
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:17 PM
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3. Desperate much?
n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:17 PM
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4. Who did she meet and when
and where's the record of the meeting.

That's what is lost in that flurry of Pete's Plopoganda.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:18 PM
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5. Nice copy paste, welcome to DU, you're ignored now, sorry.
Goodbye
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:19 PM
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6. They'd better tell the news outlets then, 'cause the pundits were laughing at her.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:16 PM
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34. The entrenched pundits support the man of the future. That makes
a lot of sense.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:20 PM
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7. another newbie for clinton slinging shit
how much do you guys paid for smearing a good Democrat?

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:10 PM
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23. I can't keep track of them all. This one is posting from HILLARYHUB.
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:22 PM
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8. Of course
"it was enacted less than a month after his inauguration."

Clearly a First Lady to be was vital in passing legislation that managed to make it all the way to the President's desk in less than 30 days.

No doubt the First Lady Elect was heavily involved in authoring the bill, as many First Lady Elects are commonly asked to do.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:25 PM
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9. The Obama camp is lower than a snake's belly. They have no credibility. They are shameful people.
This is why I cannot and will not support Barack Obama, ever.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:31 PM
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12. Journalist? You're speaking of credibility yet offer no substantiation.
Lower than a snakes belly? You're certainly no journalist.
What are you?
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:34 PM
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13. Obama will do anything to win
He would even sell his grandmother up the river to win at any cost.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:13 PM
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28. The......
campaign is running scared this week. They really have gone into the sewer this week


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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:14 PM
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30. "I'll vote for McCain just to do anything I can to try to keep Obama out of the WH."
You say that and talk of credibility?

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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:22 PM
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41. Your ride is here.....


Bu-bye....I have had enough of your nastiness. <click>
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:24 PM
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42. See the hand. Keep talking to it...
Get used to it. Barack Obama will be the next President of the United States...whether you vote for a Republican or not.

There are plenty of us Democrats who get it. We're taking Barack to the White House...and guess what, we don't need your help.

:hi:

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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:27 PM
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10. Poor Chris Dodd
All he did was author the legislation. Hillary Clinton did so much MORE :eyes:
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:20 PM
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38. state Senator Rickey Hendon was the original sponsor of landmark racial profiling
and videotaped confession legislation

Jones appointed Obama sponsor of virtually every high-profile piece of legislation, angering many rank-and-file state legislators who had more seniority than Obama and had spent years championing the bills.

"I took all the beatings and insults and endured all the racist comments over the years from nasty Republican committee chairmen," state Senator Rickey Hendon, the original sponsor of landmark racial profiling and videotaped confession legislation yanked away by Jones and given to Obama, complained to me at the time. "Barack didn't have to endure any of it, yet, in the end, he got all the credit.

"I don't consider it bill jacking," Hendon told me. "But no one wants to carry the ball 99 yards all the way to the 1-yard line and then give it to the halfback who gets all the credit and the stats in the record book."

During his seventh and final year in the Illinois Senate, Obama's stats soared. He sponsored a whopping 26 bills passed into law-including many he now cites in his presidential campaign when attacked as inexperienced. It was a stunning achievement that started him on the path of national politics, and he couldn't have done it without Jones.


http://dallasobserver.com/2008-02-28/news/obama-and-me/2
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:20 PM
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39. Write it and even get it passed in the Bush administration
All he needed was to pass it again and get Bill to sign it. He'd only been in the Senate for about a decade - and HRC had been in DC for a month - so I guess she lobbied the Senate for him.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:29 PM
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11. Too long to read. Wanna post something short and to the point? Why...
was Obama's campaign's statement wrong? How was HRC responsible for the FMLA?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:36 PM
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14. didn’“ and further more.....’s Hillary’
and in conclusion.......Lady’“President Clinton didn’t
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:41 PM
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15. Rebuttal
links available at:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/hillarys-big-family-and-medica-1.php

Hillary's big "Family and Medical Leave Act" lie that's getting almost no attention and just got a lot juicer with some findings by the TAPPED's Dana Goldstein.
By - March 21, 2008, 9:41AM

Hillary Clinton's claim that she helped pass the Family and Medical
leave act is as gross an exaggeration, if not outright lie, as any of
the well-covered ones we have learned about recently (Northern Ireland
peace accords, Bosnian landing with Sinbad, etc.)

When Hillary
Clinton became First Lady on January 20,1993 the FMLA didn't need any
help to pass, which is the reason it sailed through congress 16 days
later by huge margins
.

The bill had been around for years, had
strong support in both houses of Congress, and had already passed, yet
been vetoed, twice before during the preceding George Bush Sr.
Presidency. All it needed was a president who wouldn't veto it. Everyone knew this.

As
soon as that happed congress acted quickly and passed it for a third
time just 16 days into the Clinton Presidency by overwhelming margins.
All Bill Clinton had to do was take out a pen, fulfill his campaign
promise, and sign on the dotted line - which he did. Unless Hillary
helped him hold the pen it's hard to fathom how her campaign can
possibly claim she helped pass the thing.

Now just
yesterday, via Dana Goldstein of The American Prospect, we learn that
"uncovered" in the First Lady papers recently released by the National
Archive, that Hillary Clinton never even "held or attended any meetings on the Family Medical Leave Act."


To state that Hillary Clinton helped pass the FMLA during her first 16 days as First Lady is just plain preposterous.

It's beyond me how shes gotten away with this claim for so long and why it's not getting more coverage right now.
A
Diarst at the Daily Kos first discovered and posted about this on back
on March 8th. It time for bigger fish, TPM most of all, to take a
closer look at the facts surrounding this bogus Clinton claim.

YOU CAN GET LINKS AND READ SOME MORE ABOUT IT BY CLICKING HERE
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chocome Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:03 PM
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21. posted by the blogger Larry "Bionic Soy" on tpm..look at his posting history...a obama bot..
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:46 PM
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48. So the fact that the poster is an Obama supporter, that makes the post false?
According to the NY Times article, Congress had already decided to re-pass the bill (they'd passed it previously but it was vetoed by GHW Bush) 2 weeks before Clinton even took office.

It may be true that she was in favor of the bill, but to take responsibility for getting it passed is something of an exaggeration to say the least.

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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:52 PM
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16. You Link Doesn't Support Your Claim
Where is the "Obama campaign memo?"
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:56 PM
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17. breaking!
Fox News website says Fox News is the greatest news network ever.

Source; Fox News
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:58 PM
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18. Hillary Hub - same news source used by Fox News
This isn't a real news source. And this "source" does not support the claim. Hmmm.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #18
26. Obama .....
website, same as Fox news

I can play your silly game also

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chocome Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:01 PM
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19. stay on the ball people...if you have facts that contradicts fact hub, please post it or stfu !
:-)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:11 PM
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25. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
chocome Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:14 PM
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29. Me troll ? 80% of DU postings are HRC trashing, so much for democracy !
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:15 PM
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32. Got run off at Kos, eh? I see why.
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chocome Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:16 PM
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35. i gues the abcnews article were right...there is a "civil" war going on..and its shameful...
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:19 PM
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37. www.hillaryhub.com - THAT is shameful.
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chocome Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:25 PM
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43. Obama on the attack - http://www.attacktimeline.com/
http://www.attacktimeline.com/

when did progressives fall for fucking attack lies..?

when did "we" get to be the naive voters who fall for fucking bull shit ?

because he is black, because he have some fine speeches not written by him and using a telepromter..

give me a fucking breake..

The results weren't just interesting because they revealed Obama as a markedly inferior speaker without the Teleprompter. Obama's supporters have had ample notice that the scripted Obama is far more effective than the spontaneous one. The extremely articulate and passionate Obama that makes all the speeches has yet to show up at any of the debates. For such a gifted and energetic speaker, he is an oddly tongue-tied and indifferent debater.

What was especially noteworthy about his Virginia speech were the diversions Obama took from the prepared text. Because of Obama's improvised moments, this speech was different than the usual fare he offers. We didn't get the normal dosages of post-partisanship or even "elevation." Virtually every time Obama deviated from the text, he expressed the partisan anger that has so poisoned the Democratic party. His spontaneous comments eschewed the conciliatory and optimistic tone that has made the Obama campaign such a phenomenon. It looked like the spirit of John Edwards or Howard Dean had possessed Obama every time he vamped. While Paul Krugman probably loved it, this different Obama was a far less attractive one.

At one point, Obama launched an improvised jeremiad against the current administration that took special note of the recent revelation that he and Dick Cheney are distant relations:


http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/728ofzey.asp?pg=2
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:26 PM
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44. Welcome to IGNORE, troll.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:01 PM
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20. Ask Pat Schroeder
she will tell you that Hillary was involved, and Schroeder was the ringleader for FMLA in Congress.

I like Obama less and less as he continues with these kinds of tactics.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:10 PM
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24. I have
to read a some more of this issue. it seems to be the biggy today.

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:17 PM
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36. I love Pat Schroeder
Wish she would run for the Senate. Remember the days when we thought there would be dozens of women like her in Congres?

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:28 PM
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50. oh, i do recall her. great pic of her thanks.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:12 PM
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27. I cannot believe that Hillary
That Hillary has y'all working on a Friday night.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:14 PM
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31. Thanks for your ........
post and welcome.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:15 PM
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33. K and R
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:22 PM
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40. Another bang-up job of cut&paste, cut&paste, cut&paste and...breathe!
Isn't it past your bedtime? Please?
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:32 PM
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45. Hill-arious.
So, she didn't write it, had no power over in it being passed or not... she informally *lobbied* for a popular bill for a few days before it passed?

Is that the essence of her claim?

Was she maybe being shot at by bosnian snipers while she was lobbying, or negotiating peace in Ireland while lobbying, or something like that, to make it extra-super-special?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:34 PM
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46. “helping to pass” the bill. “One
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:38 PM
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47. another KOS boycott asshole?
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:57 PM
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49. Breaking! Obama camp lies & claims that HRC didn't deserve credit for making the sun rise in the AM!
Hillary do to make the sun rise! She has 44 witnesses from her campaign & her own web article to prove it!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:29 PM
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51. another KILL THE MESSENGER Rove attack on the OP
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:31 PM
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52. A wave of hillaryhub threads...
suspicious...
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