Anyone else watching MSNBC right now?

[crispini]

No link, but that remark? :wow:

To everyone who's not -- I'm sure it'll be out soon....

[bicentennial_baby]

1. "It will be between 2 candidates who love this country..."

:wow:

[Bullet1987]

7. Who said what?

[bicentennial_baby]

12. Bill Clinton, on a Clinton McCain GE....

There was more, but...I think you can get the implication.

Chuck Todd was at a loss for words on that one...

[crispini]

11. Yes!

WTF! :wtf:

[blonndee]

2. I have it on but wasn't listening. Could you be specific?

[Emit]

3. I don't have cable -- please provide details -- tx!

[Connie_Corleone]

4. You might want to post the quote.

I heard it and I TRULY DESPISE THAT MAN NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Window]

68. Bill and Hillary are both showing their true colors now.

Perhaps Bill wants to remain our "first black president." They have both lost their everloving minds.

[LisaM]

5. Can you share?

I know you are trying to make me curious, and I admit I rose to the bait.

[crispini]

8. No, I'm really not trying to make you curious.,.

I hate to post anything without being sure of what I heard.

[ampad]

6. What? Could you elaborate?

Don't tell me it's the typical white person remark.

[TeamJordan23]

9. Bill Clinton: A McCain-Clinton matchup would be between two candidates who have loved this country

Or something to that extent is what Bill said today on the campaign trail.

Basically, it seems to imply that McCain and Clinton have loved this country while implying that Obama is not patriotic.

[TwilightGardener]

13. If that's true, it's over. That's the lowest blow in the world.

[Hieronymus]

57. That is exactly what Bill said. As a supporter of the Clintons throughout ..

their troubles, I have had a 180. Both of them turn me off totally.

[powergirl]

15. Those Clinton powers of persuasion didn't work on Richardson

What is wrong with these people. They are taking down the Democratic party and it is making me CRAZY! :banghead:

[Pirate Smile]

10. I was - Bill Clinton made a remark at a VFW that if the election is between Clinton and McCain it

will be between two people who "love this Country".

Unbelievable.

[crispini]

14. Ok, I didn't imagine it.

The stuff after it even worse, something to the effect of, 'getting down to business without all this distraction,' yes?

[bicentennial_baby]

20. without all this distraction from our politics, or something like that...

Ruh-roh..

[crispini]

25. Man, if that's half as bad as it sounds, it's going to be bad.

:wow:

[Me.]

32. Like BJs

in the WH?

[LisaM]

16. Are you taking it to mean that he is implying Obama doesn't?

I find that to be a stretch.

[crispini]

21. We'll have to wait for the tape.

It certainly didn't read well on paper, as the talking heads remarked.

they said something to the effect that they got the quote from someone in the pool following him on the campaign trail.

[bicentennial_baby]

22. Chuck Todd didn't...He was speechless

[LSK]

then why say it?

[galaxy21]

18. Bill, just shut up

You were a good to great president, but your completely runing your legacy...

[DeschutesRiver]

55. He no longer has a meaningful legacy

There has been no need for him to have made any of the many bad comments he is making. I think he is excited at the idea of having another term in office for himself, because none of this is helping his wife.

If he were my dh, these comments wouldn't be happening. You can fire your own husband from campaigning, and I'd have done it by now. But I would have also divoreced a guy like this earlier, instead of hanging onto to him for whatever use he could be to me in my future campaigning. Looks like that isn't likely working out the way Ms. Clinton had envisioned.

[Window]

23. What in hell are in all those doughnuts they've been eating???

:argh:

[Bullet1987]

17. They're living in a realm of their own now...

It's not about 2008 anymore...it's about spiting Obama. No wonder Richardson endorsed him...probably can't stand the Clinton's bullshit.

[scheming daemons]

19. I heard it.... Bill just pulled a South Carolina TIMES TEN! Wow...

....

[slinkerwink]

35. it's time to kick them out!

[Ichingcarpenter]

37. Bill is the democrats worst type of friend

one that would stab them in the backs while shaking hands and bending over for Republicans

Hunter S. Thompson is right ...... Bill Clinton is a black-hearted Swine of a friend."

[ecstatic]

52. I was so blind. Look at what he did to his own wife and daughter

Getting blowjobs in the White House while his daughter and wife were present in the next room!!

That should have told us everything we needed to know about his character. But alas, we kept blindly believing...

Why am I so surprised?

[Teaser]

24. That's harsh

electoral changes declining....declining...

[ScreamingMeemie]

26. I don't get it. I'm not a believer in either Dem candidate...but I just

saw it as a comment made. Now, if he had said,"Obama is an America hating terrorist" I could see a point. FWIW, I have never looked at Bill Clinton as a God. He was a good president but I really think his time is over. This is a disclaimer, just in case you decide to label me as a Sen. Clinton loving Obama hater.

[crispini]

40. I take it you heard it as well?

It was more the second half of the sentence that got my attention.

We'll see, the tape could certainly present more context.

[ScreamingMeemie]

48. Yes. I did. I was not offended, astounded or confused by it.

I think there are enough truly bad comments for the supporters of both Clinton and Obama to get upset about it. A dirtier election cycle (due to the campaigns of both Dems and the Repub) I have never seen.

[crispini]

54. I just saw it.

"Without all of this other stuff" that's getting in the way of our politics.

It seems to me he's saying that about Obama's speech on race, which is pretty sad. That is the best speech I think I have ever heard a politician give in my lifetime, with a nuanced and intelligent take on the state of race in our nation today, and it really touched me with its honesty. I do think it's kind of sad for Clinton to reduce it to "all of this other stuff."

[democrat2thecore]

27. Bill Clinton -- that was as LOW as it gets. I once admired that man -nt

[scheming daemons]

28. You know what? If I'm Obama and/or Dean... Bubba doesn't get to speak at the convention....

...sorry... he just excommunicated himself from the Democratic party.

[Eric J in MN]

34. Maybe he was praising McCain, and not bashing Obama.

Bill Clinton may have meant that while Hillary Clinton and John McCain disagree on many things, they both love their country.

He wasn't necessarily implying that any other Americans-including Obama-don't.

[crispini]

44. We'll see when we have more context.

Almost anything can sound bad out of context.

[FiveGoodMen]

65. Praising McCain is bad enough.

Bomb, bomb, bomb ... bomb, bomb Iran

[ElsewheresDaughter]

29. Good on Bill!

[scheming daemons]

33. You're over the edge..... Bill just pulled the biggest no-no in politics....

..

[easy_b94]

36. This a pic of me smacking you!!!!!!!

[stray cat]

39. "Go McCain! 4-more years!" - Bill and Hillary just like Lieberman

and Zell Miller.

[LSK]

43. BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT???

[Ichingcarpenter]

50. More tax breaks for the rich

more war, more Bush, .......... yeah! MOre Clinton!!!!\\

[grantcart]

30. Chuck Todd: Bill Clinton's statements today very troubling

Source: MSNBC

Bill Clinton has made remarks that seem to undermine Senator Obama's patriotism.

The remarks which include a statement to the effect that a "Clinton-McCain raise would be between two people who love the country without all of this other stuff" (paraphrase)

Todd was asked when he stopped by MSNBC and they were reading the excerpt to him.

He said that the full text was not good and a 'terrible read'. He could not figure out what Clinton was saying that would be good for his wife's campaign.

Should be big news in one hour

[crispini]

45. Thanks for the post!

Is it up MSNBC.com already?

[grantcart]

49. thanks for the thread

this is the begining of the end

[SoCalDem]

51. Flip it..and have Hillary in Obama's position..with the "math"

Can you even imagine the furor if his campaign had been pulling the crap that's been pulled on them??

Every day, I am amazed at the enormous sense of entitlement her campaign has...and for no reason except that Rush Limbaugh's been propping her up for a while now (and she's okay with it)...

[K Gardner]

60. They're reeling from the Richardson thing. But this is bad, really bad. Thanks Grant.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

69. Chuck Todd is RW propagandist scum....for 16 yrs ...but you O peeps love Repukes

[SharonRB]

31. Sounds like the Big Dawg has finally jumped the shark

I've lost the respect and admiration I used to hold for him. This is just plain nasty.

It will help Barack,though,I think.

[galaxy21]

41. Bill is desperate for Hillary to win because he feels guilty for all he's put her through

It wouldn't surprise me if he thought helping her win the presidency would make up for all the other women.

Love and Guilt is the reason he hasn't told her to drop out. When any other husband likely would have. I almost fell bad for him since he's in an impossible position.

[Teaser]

59. I kinda wonder if there is a marital ultimatum at work here

Or he could just be getting too worked up.

[burythehatchet]

61. Quite the reverse, my friend. Everything he has done is to make her lose.

[galaxy21]

42. Bill is desperate for Hillary to win because he feels guilty for all he's put her through

It wouldn't surprise me if he thought helping her win the presidency would make up for all the other women.

Love and Guilt is the reason he hasn't told her to drop out. When any other husband likely would have. I almost fell bad for him since he's in an impossible position.

[grantcart]

56. explanation: Richardson endorsement is driving them crazy

[uponit7771]

38. OMG!!!!

[loveangelc]

46. I'm not seeing this as meaning Obama doesn't love his country tbh.

maybe I'm missing something. I haven't heard or seen the whole comment, but Idk i dont see it.

[ecstatic]

47. If what I'm hearing is true...

Good riddance, Bill Clinton. Your conduct has gone from disappointing, to hurtful, to downright disgusting and unforgivable.

I can't believe I once admired and respected you.

You are a liar and a fraud. You are dead to me now.

And you can forget about me voting for you or your f*cking wife.

I'd welcome a McCain presidency, because if what you and your wife say is true, then McCain has the experience, love of country, and one thing that you don't have--the integrity---to lead this nation. So, at least according to you, it won't be so bad.

[rodeodance]

53. Michelle should go out and say the same: Between BO and Mccain.

[Eurobabe]

58. I'm through with Bill, as of a couple of months ago

He's shot this campaign in the arse. In a terrible way.

And he has destroyed his legacy. Congrats, way to go BILL! :hi:

[Joe the Revelator]

62. It makes me very sad to see a guy I once IDOLIZED fall so far

I hate Hillary, but I take no joy in watching what Bill has become.

[quantass]

63. Hillary is having a bad end-week!

[grantcart]

64. priceless

[Carrieyazel]

66. Until this campaign, nobody watched MSNBC; I wish they would have just gone away.

[grantcart]

67. lol rather than just having Bill go away

[crispini]

70. Oh, horsepucky. I've been watching MSNBC for four years.

And I still love Keith Olbermann. He was the ONLY man who covered the election fraud issue back in 2004. He made that story his own, and we made him. And people who forget that are full of shit.