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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 10:16 AM Original message |
Kerry Calls for Higher Teacher Standards |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'm sick of teachers being scapegoated. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. I am totally with you. This is ridiculous. Teachers are not the problem |
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stryker18 (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 07:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
59. Well... |
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wubbathompson (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. What the hell does money do |
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keep_left (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. Check out this link: |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:03 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. Thanks for the context!!! MUST READ stuff |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:19 AM Response to Reply #26 |
48. Let's put it this way: |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
2. STOP IT! Schools are NOT corporations, You CAN'T tie |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Do you believe that privatization is Kerry's goal? |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Yep, indirectly at least. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 12:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Did you read the article? |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 12:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Testing, testing, testing and more |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 12:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I don't see where Kerry calls for more testing |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. To start with, words from the campaign itself |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 01:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Quoting out of context |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 02:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Determining a teacher is "bad" |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. They are saying a teacher is "bad" if her kids don't test well. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 04:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. No they are not |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 06:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Well actually... |
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keep_left (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
45. Right. And the only time I was truly paid for performance... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. Hey, I was paid for meeting test score goals! |
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cosmicdot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
4. is this what elementary and secondary school teachers want? |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. If they want standards, then accountability MUST be . . . |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Welcome, DInger |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 12:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. What's up with the voucher talk? Kerry's plan has no vouchers |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 12:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. You're Right, It Doesn't |
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keep_left (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
47. John Witte, at UW-Madison, wrote a report... |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:55 AM Response to Reply #47 |
54. A Story In The Journal Sentinel Said |
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keep_left (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
46. This is exactly the problem. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
49. okay. Take a deep breath here. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
8. If a teacher graduates from college, they are capable. Stop the testing. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 12:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. You might want to read this post |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 12:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Yes madfloridian, they shoud call it nclu instead of nclb . . . |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Yes, Neil Bush owns Ignite, I think. |
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SidewalkShuffle (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
55. Graduating college does not mean they are capable |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
21. higher standards than WHAT? |
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wubbathompson (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Out of curiosity |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 03:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. the quality of education in the United States, |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. HIRE good teachers who are qualified. Go by yearly evaluations. |
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wubbathompson (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 03:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I agree to an extent |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 04:01 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Children are NOT commodities. They are little human beings. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:33 AM Response to Reply #22 |
50. Here's more than 2 cents. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 03:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Higher standards than the ones in place now |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 03:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. which are what? |
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wubbathompson (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I think the point is that |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. will they ever be high enough? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. uly, as a teacher, you should already know |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. you conveniently overlook the "higher" part. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Do you think he should call for lower standards? |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. um, no. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 04:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Good gracious, do you have children? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Deleted message |
ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 04:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. unless I miss my mark |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. You're probably right |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. let's not play semantic games. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 04:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. may I take your silence as a "yes" to the proposition, sangha? |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
51. This is why so many teachers don't like Kerry. n/t |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
52. There are several holes in this as far as I can see... |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
53. NOBODY, including Kerry, has the balls to do what's REALLY needed |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. yes and yes again |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. It takes much more than that |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
61. Is he going to push vouchers? |
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jsw_81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
63. Ha! |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 05:00 AM Response to Original message |
64. Just another reason why Kerry is crap |
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Democat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 05:45 AM Response to Original message |
65. Who is he trying to impress with this? Not the teacher's unions I guess? |
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