Rev. Wright = Dean Scream by November

[Mezzo]

and I don't think it's fair either.

But it is nonetheless true.

This is a stake in the heart of the Obama camp, and they know it on the inside. I got this from an African American friend of mine, and two others who work for the Obama campaign.

[Texas Hill Country]

1. I think it is a shame too, but let's be real... this is gonna be very bad for him for a long time.

[Mezzo]

4. They will paint every racist thing that guy said into Obama's mouth

and I was originally for Edwards, moved to Hillary when he dropped out, but find myself sticking up for him more and more.

Fact: the way some democrats have treated Hillary Clinton on THESE VERY BOARDS is unconscionable. But the way others are substituting this asshole for Obama is almost as bad.

[papau]

45. True - if he gets the nomination the GOP win the Presidency - again

[barb162]

57. That's my feeling unless McCain really screws up between

now and November.

[rainy]

2. But "this time" we shouldn't let the media destroy our candidate.

they did it with Dean's scream and now this. We should try very hard not to let them tell us who our candidate should be.

[KittyWampus]

5. this will be the new crap Hillary .....s will push. It's called trying to demoralize

and posting crap about some bogus, non-existent black friends and insiders of the Obama camp.

[Mezzo]

12. Rev. Wright did that all by himself, hon, and you know it

Harry and Louise.

[KittyWampus]

3. forgive me if I don't buy your "I got this from an African American friend" BULLSHIT

[fascisthunter]

7. It's All They Ever Had

[barb162]

60. It's all who ever had? Who is "they"

[Mezzo]

8. really? There was a black lady on the radio yesterday who said the EXACT SAME THING

and that wasn't my girlfriend. That makes two without me having to get off my ass.

But keep your head in the fucking sand all you want.

You're forgiven. Lord knows you need it.

[CreekDog]

16. wow, you have black friends?

i was waiting to hear that. :eyes:

[Mezzo]

21. Do you have white ones?

you seem surprised. The lady on the radio was not my friend, however. I know how you Obamamaniacs like to twist things.

[barb162]

62. Do you have any friends? With an uncalled for comment like that and all....

[CreekDog]

68. it was a joke

everything in GD-P is uncalled for. :rofl:

[barb162]

61. Mezzo, I believe you. I heard a black minister

from Boston talk about Wright (on either MSNBC or CNN) and he was none too kindly about Wright and several more black people saying the same thing.

Obama's latest poll numbers are telling the story, aren't they.

[CountAllVotes]

6. those were Wright's words

not Obama's words! Get over it!

:dem:

[Mezzo]

11. and Dean's scream was in a room full of screamin people, get over that

it won't change what they are going to do to him. Speech or not.

People can see it now.

[barb162]

65. Even Maureen Dowd had a very negative column on Obama and Wright

today and normally she's fairly liberal. The negative press on Obama is spreading like wildfire.

[LaurenG]

9. You could be correct but I do hope Americans are smarter than that

this time.

[YOY]

10. Jesu F. Christ

Call it quits all f***ing ready.

You make me NOT want to vote for Hillary if she is the nominee with this bullshit.

[Mezzo]

17. go to Hell in a handbasket for all I care

My post was not intended to get you to vote for anyone in particular. In fact, I care as much for who you vote for as the Obamamaniacs do for the People of Florida, who's GOP CONTROLLED statehouse forced a primary where OBAMA CAMPAIGNED the day after he signed a pledge saying he wouldn't.

Sorry for you.

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[barb162]

67. There is another Democratic candidate in this race.

Why do you make this out to be Obama v. McCain and that's it. We're nowhere close to the Convention yet and look at the way things have changed in one week. Seriously, this story could have broken in October when there was only one Democrat in the race. Then it would be an automatic McCain win. Clinton is rising in the polls, there is a viable Democratic candidate in Hillary and Obama (if he can straighten this out).

[YOY]

69. Yes, I know of that.

And if you were the one who asked that my post be deleted obviously you didn't understand that the OP thinks I shouldn't vote democratic and will continue to drag this whole stupid affair through the mud because there is some serious grit in his or her genitals.

[zonmoy]

13. knew that the the cabal was steering the election

towards two candidates that were designed to lose. even if they won I figured that they would then only govern slightly less right wing then the repukes.

[2rth2pwr]

14. ...

[CreekDog]

15. you don't think it's fair?

you've been ginning up every unfair smear for months and you think this is unfair?

fairness has become your currency?

please don't insult my intelligence.

:rofl:

[Mezzo]

19. No, I don't think it's fair at all.

I've been ginning up that the Obamamaniacs have been HORRIBLE toward Hillary. I started this thing wanting Gore, then Edwards.

I've been mirroring the tripe that spews from those people intent on acting like Hillary should just coronate somebody.

I'd insult your intelligence if you had any. :think:

[CreekDog]

27. you're right, i have no intelligence

evidenced by trying to engage you. :dunce:

[Mezzo]

32. it's true.

I'm not trying to change anybody's mind. I said what happened, and what MY concerns are. I could care less if that sways you or not. (not to be mean, seriously) :dunce:

[Swamp Rat]

29. Ad hominem

[gabeana]

30. exactly they were hoping for a scandal to bring him down

looks like its too late to take him out of the primary due his pledged delegate lead, now they are hoping that by scaring people that he can't win GE because of Wright, the superdelegate will step in and save the day for Hillary. I guess they got the memo. This Faux its not Fair but is funny as hell

[Mezzo]

34. Thanks!

but I try to say what I mean. It's not fair what they're doing to him. When it crosses a line, it crosses a line, and I say so.

[David__77]

18. So one or a few people say it, and you extrapolate that anecdote to mean something.

Pretty shoddy. Obama will be the nominee. Better focus on him winning.

[Mezzo]

24. and you think it doesn't?

Better you focus on nominating someone who can actually win in November.

[MattBaggins]

46. Just give up

How about we get some support for what is clearly a swift boating attempt to turn him into "the angry black man" by proxy. Is it really more important to just get that oval office that Hillary supporters will join the idiots in painting an ugly picture of him? Is there not a greater picture of principle that should be examined so that this doesn't happen over and over?

Please tell me what I should do if the mighty powers that be decide Obama should be told to sit back down. When I am at work this summer and folks are discussing whatever attack the right has cooked up should I defend her or just sit there and nod my head in polite agreement over their decision to vote for McCain.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

20. sadly for the Obama supporters it is a stake in the heart.

I hope the super delegates do their job.

[David__77]

36. You know that the superdelegates won't go for her right?

It is possible that they will deny the nomination to Obama, but they won't hand it to his opponent either. It's Obama, or someone else entirely, which I think it pretty unlikely.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

37. They'll go for who can win the GE...Rev Wright is the Dean Scream for Nov.

[barb162]

66. My guess is they'd hand it to Hillary in a second.

I think the supers will keep "neutral" until the Convention. Things are changing too fast to put yourself on the line until the Convention.

[NYCGirl]

22. Your concern is duly noted, and will get all the consideration it so richly deserves. NT

[Mezzo]

25. And your sarcasm is exactly why the party is fractured. nt

[NYCGirl]

35. Yes, I'm sure that's right. NT

[Vinca]

23. If Democrats would rally around Obama rather than hiding in a corner,

it might not be a "Dean scream" moment. Sadly, rather than embrace an opportunity head on, Democrats in power tuck tail and scurry back to their rat holes until it blows over. Somewhere there's a room where Democrats check their spines and hide their balls.

[Mezzo]

28. Like Pelosi saying Impeachment is off the table...

and them saying they'll do something about Harriet Meiers. The spine seems to be there retroactively for some.

[Vinca]

33. Exactly. I'm not expecting them to kiss and hug Obama, but he

has opened an opportunity for a dialogue about race in this country and Democrats should welcome that. Instead, their heads plunge deeper in the sand.

[leftynyc]

39. The democrats will all vote for Obama

(except for the few that will take their ball and go home if their nominee doesn't get in - Sen Obama has such supporters as well).

All the dems voted for Gore and for Kerry also. The problem is the independents/swing voters. So even if we do rally around our candidate, it's not enough to win an election.

[2rth2pwr]

47. No one wants to jump on a sinking ship.

[Vinca]

49. If it's a sinking ship, it's loaded with a whole lot of voters

the Democrats will need in November. Reason enough for Democratic leaders to weigh in.

[Swamp Rat]

26. "But it is nonetheless true." - From fiction to 'fact.'

Seperated by the disclaimer - "and I don't think it's fair either."

"This is a stake in the heart of the Obama camp" - Conclusion to the Straw Man based on the invented fact, a fictional event to take place in the future - "Rev. Wright = Dean Scream by November."

"and they know it on the inside." - Prove it.

"I got this from an African American friend of mine" - Appeal to Authority fallacy.

"and two others who work for the Obama campaign." - I do not believe this.

[blogslut]

31. I know a great place to get pearls cheap

In case you need some for clutching :)

[democrattotheend]

38. ALL THE MORE REASON TO STAND TOGETHER AND FIGHT BACK

We let Dean go down in 2004 because of a character assassination by the media. Are we going to make that same mistake again? This Deaniac will fight to her death to stop Obama from suffering the same fate, and all of us as Democrats should do the same.

[cooolandrew]

40. I never understand the scream thing what is the big deal about a scream, even though it weren't.

[npincus]

41. I am sick about it. If Obama can't get elected, that's it.

[Guava Jelly]

42. Is it a Scream you can Xerox?

:shrug:

[high density]

44. Clinton = Dean Scream by Right Now

She needs to drop out now, and for that to happen the super delegates need to band together and bring Obama up to 2024 delegates.

[theredpen]

48. I didn't realize that you could predict the future.

Who wins American Idol?

[Swamp Rat]

50. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG HHHHHHHHHHHH!

[GarbagemanLB]

51. It's too bad. It's the stake in Hillary's campaign's heart. I've heard this from many people. That

picture is too damning. Too bad.

[Swamp Rat]

54. Too bad for Hillary some of her supporters went ape shit pushing the Wright story.

That's probably why they sent out a memo to lay off Wright.

Another Mark Penn campaign tactic has backfired.

[wileedog]

52. End of issue

They don't let radical Anti-American racists stand 2 feet from the President and send him a thank you note for coming.

Game over.

[RBInMaine]

53. Obama didn't "scream" anything.

[Hoof Hearted]

55. In surround sound. And Obama keeps rewinding the tape and hitting play.

[barb162]

56. Very interesting but what do you mean

by "Dean Scream." Primal Scream ? Or the yell Dean did the one day in the primary, the "yeehaw" thing? I so wanted Dean to be the candidate that year.

It was clear by the way Obama was scrambling around doing interviews a week ago how very serious it was. I agree it's a few or more nails in the coffin. Did they say they thought they'll make it to November? The way his poll numbers are dropping....

[ORDem]

58. Hey, not even a comparison there. The Dean Scream was awesome cool man!!

:kick:

[Stephanie]

59. the Clintons are hiding their tax returns because they will torpedo her campaign for good

And I got this from a White Woman, so I know it's true.

[Patsy Stone]

63. dupe

[Patsy Stone]

64. My husband's cousin's sister's hairdresser

says your friend is wrong.