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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:16 PM Original message |
Book vs. Speech |
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Guava Jelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. I am starting to think you just don't like Obama |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. you know I am critical of him, he was never my 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th choice. nt |
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Guava Jelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. He was my third |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I don't despise O, I just don't tolerate lying, over and over and over again. |
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Guava Jelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Are you new to politics? |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. No, I am not new to politics. With O, it is just that nothing rings true. I have never |
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Guava Jelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Thank you at least for that |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
37. Maybe your time would be better spent reading about HRC and NAFTA |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
38. Same here. May the nominee succeed in the GE. |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. Not his dad... his grandfather... you cannot get anything straight. also why do you think that is |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. thank you for pointing that out, I will change it. |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. now will you explain why you think that those are not 2 separate and distinct events? |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. you guys will make any excuse, any excuse, any excuse. It really is laughable. nt |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. No, how the hell do you know that both events are not true? |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. OMG, that is all I can say! nt |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. this is insane.. please.. make a point.. any point... why are these two passages mutually exclusive... |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Use your common sense. nt |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. My common sense says she was afraid of black men on the street and the |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I think its a fair inference that thisis what he was talking about. And if not, |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. No, it is not a fair inference. there is more than one black man in the world |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Did he say he loved her, no he did not. But he was more than willing to |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. He said words to that effect. back to the original point.. why do you think there is only one black |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Johnny, use your brain, even your friendlies in this thread know it to be true. I'm done trying to |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. . forget 100 percent proof, any evidence would be fine. there is none, you are wrong |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Johnny, that is not true. you prove he meant another one. I am quoting from his book a passage tha |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I didn't make the claim, I feel no need to prove anything. back up your claim |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I have Johnny. you are in denial. nt |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. You couldn't even get it straight that it was his grandfather, his father left when he was 2 |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Even the quote you use says "more than on occasion" clue in |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. You have proved nothing other than your conjecture is unprovable. |
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pocoloco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
6. LOL |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
16. Uh, where's the conflict? |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. He makes it seem like she was afraid walking down the street, when in actuality, she |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. They are not exclusive.. she was afraid of both.... |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Johnny keep grasping, you are making a fool of yourself. Please use you god given common sense. Do |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Yes, there is more than one black man in Kansas, your assumption that the panhandler is the only one |
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Petrushka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. The incident in Obama's book took place in Hawaii, not Kansas. Point? None. (But, wonder why |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. I stand corrected, I thought he lived in Kansas with his grandparents, my bad |
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Petrushka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 04:01 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. No sweat! ;-) |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. To repeat the reasonably explained post s above.... |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
50. No conflict there |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
19. Question, did you read his book, and found that quote or .. |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
23. I read this post four times |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
24. I don't understand what's inconsistent about the two accounts |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Possibly, she had reason to fear for good reason besides the man was black. this says alot |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. You have proved nothing other than your conjecture is unprovable. |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
49. He was there. You weren't |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
32. I find his writing style very overblown. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
33. And of course, EVERY CONVERSATION HE EVER HAD WITH HIS GRANDMOTHER |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. long book |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. VERY long book. |
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DarienComp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
42. This is just weak. |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
51. That is the dichotomy of his comparing the two key people in his life |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. . |
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Petrushka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 04:13 AM Response to Original message |
54. Wonder if he cringed, too, when he learned that his Grandpap Obama didn't exactly welcome his Mama |
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SeaLyons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
55. K&R |
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