If John Edwards comes out and supports HRC, than Gore should come out in support of Obama

[madmunchie]

IMMEDIATELY following (provided that he does indeed support Obama). Let this be between Obama and HRC.

I'm tired of candidates having to fight off the kitchen sink. Will she destroy the Democratic Party much the same way that Bush has all but destroyed the Republicans?

Obama has been gaining on HRC steadily; he is the stronger candidate because of how he is able to relate and inspire people. Don't we want to draw people to our beliefs????? HRC isn't drawing "new" blood to the PARTY, she has the support that she has and is losing some of it. Obama is best for our Party because "new Democrats" will strengthen and broaden our Party they are essential to it's continuity.

I don't want to see the "Heavyweights" try to influence this election. If it should happen where JE would hypocritically support HRC, I think just rewards would be for Gore to nullify the effect by supporting Obama within minutes to a day......I cannot imagine that Gore supports HRC anyway. He'll come forward if need be, I have confidence in him.

[Uben]

1. No way Gore will support Obama

He has washed his hands of this election, and who can blame him? I think he has had his fill of public office and he is doing quite well on his own. I really don't think Edwards will endorse either. Once his prez run ended, I think he is content to just spend time with his wife and family.. I don't blame him. Maybe next election he will resurface, and hopefully get elected. He was the best of the three, anyway.

[movonne]

6. He talks with Obama every week....that was a question ask while

Obama was on the plane...

[MercutioATC]

2. Agreed, but Obama isn't "gaining on" Clinton....he has a substantial lead.

I think it's foolish to vote for a candidate because of an endorsement. An endorsement is nothing more than somebody stating their opinion...I'm capable of forming my own opinions.

[madmunchie]

26. Maybe you and I are, but many many are not and will be INFLUENCED HEAVILY by a JE

endoresement.

[madmunchie]

27. Your are right, Obama does have a substantial lead, what I should have said is that

Obama is increasing his substantial lead.

[LSparkle]

3. Is an Edwards endorsement of her that close?

I was hearing he was going to endorse SOMEONE a few weeks ago, and it didn't happen. I also
hear that Elizabeth Edwards LOATHES HRC, and I really, really doubt that she and John can be
THAT apart in their opinion of a person. ("Loathe" was the exact word used to describe EE's
feelings.) Just remembering the kind of campaign Edwards ran, I cannot fathom him endorsing
a candidate who personifies the "status quo" he ran so aggressively against.

[BringBigDogBack]

4. agree with everything you said.

It just makes no sense for him to endorse Hillary.

[saracat]

11. Edwards did give an interview in which he claimed to be less than impressed with Barack and

staed he thought Clinton was more of a 'fighter. Addto that the fact that barack doesn't support universal health care and Clinton coopted John's plan. John will be more concerned with helth care than either candidate. He won't endorse Barack.

[LSparkle]

16. "He won't endorse Barack " ... until Barack shows HE can fight

I think that's what's behind Edwards' lack of an endorsement -- he's waiting to see
if Obama can FINALLY put the "different kind of campaign" behind to a degree and
land some punches on her, as well as defend his own positions. I agree that Obama
hasn't been tough enough, and there are ways he can do this without becoming negative
and hitting below the belt. I'm hoping that tomorrow's race speech will be a
beginning -- I'm sure he feels strongly about Rev. Wright and about his church, and
I'm hoping that his passion will translate into "fighting spirit."

[madmunchie]

12. I heard on the "shows" the JE will be supporting HRC...........go figure?

[TahitiNut]

5. Consider the "cosmetics" (superficial symbolism) of who a southern, white male endorses.

I'm absolutely certain that THEY have considered that symbolism. This campaign has left the gutter and is in the sewer. That ain't the ol' swimming hole and the rope hanging from the branch ain't a swing.

[Botany]

7. Edwards ran against Clinton and inside political machines / $ corruption

And Hillary is the picture of being "bought & paid for."

[saracat]

9. Umm, so is Barack. He is a product of the Chicago machine.

[madmunchie]

14. Umm, no he isn't

[saracat]

17. Yeah, he is. Do some research. Jones 'created ;\' hom and boasted about it. And Obama didn't so much

comptet as "clear the field by "questioning" signatures of other Dems.

[madmunchie]

25. No, Obama rose to prominence on HIS OWN. Many many come from "Chicago" in Politics

and haven't risen to this level of prominence as Obama. Besides which, HRC is from Park Ridge Illinois (where she grew up). Does that make her a product of "Chicago" Politics to?

[saracat]

32. She wasn't part of "Chicago politics' She was a child and then went

away to school. Her first real political experience was the George McGovern campaign. Sorry . The comparison doesn't work and Obama walked on others to get where he is.Jones credited the former state Senator with other work to pad his resume. Jones said he was going "Make him a US Senator". Many in Chicago feel "used" by Obama and the machine that created him.

[surfermaw]

36. I have my doubts he will endorse any one but Gore if he runs

[saracat]

8. Obama is also costing us the support of many lifelong Dems. Possibly as many as he brings in.

I realize that many newcomers don't give a damn about that but I care as do many others who have been involved with the Democratic Party for more than a lifetime. Gore and Edwards may be not endorsing because they don't really care for either candidate. That is the case with very many Dems . And I find it extremely odd that you don't want the "heavy weights" to influence this election but are perfectly happy to have Gore throw his influence to "your guy".

And while I agree that "new Dems are important for the continuation of the Party, we must also look at the loss to the Party of experience and commitment if we throw the "old blood" under the bus in pursuit of the acquisition of the "new blood".

And as far as the statement of"drawing people to our beliefs", It may astound you to find that there are many of us who do NOT find that Barack Obama represents our beliefs.

[cali]

15. *snicker* No one can be "involved with the Democratic Party for more than a lifetime."

And as someone who's been a dem activist for 30 years or so, you don't speak for all lifelong dems.

[saracat]

20. Where did I say I did, and more than a lifetime can be taken many ways.

If you only live till 21 then 42 would be two lifetimes. But while I do NOT speak for ALL lifetime Dems, I am surprised to find that I do indded speak for many more than some such as you might comphrehend.But , I know you don't care. You are in favor of throwing them under the bus.

[madmunchie]

21. Too bad for you, Obama has so much more to offer us than the same ole same ol of HRC

If you don't see what Obama has to offer, than I genuinely feel SORRY for you.

"And I find it extremely odd that you don't want the "heavy weights" to influence this election but are perfectly happy to have Gore throw his influence to "your guy". To NEUTRALIZE the impact of a "heavyweight" trying to influence the race for personal political gain. NEUTRALIZE being the key term here.


"And while I agree that "new Dems are important for the continuation of the Party, we must also look at the loss to the Party of experience and commitment if we throw the "old blood" under the bus in pursuit of the acquisition of the "new blood"." EVERYBODY is valued, but "new blood" is needed, just as "new" ideas are desperately needed. We really don't need 24 years of 2 families running this country. Who would be next? JEB???

As far as lifelong Dems go, how about Jimmy Carter????? His opinions aren't too hard to figure out. I have more respect for him than I do the Clintons.

[saracat]

24. He hasn't endorsed Obama either.

[surfermaw]

38. If this fighting causes us to have a rep. congress and senate, then he will get nothing done

[Horse with no Name]

42. Seriously. Save your pity. You will need it.

obama is nothing but a media creation of cliches designed to give people who were hanging on the edge something to hang on to.
I feel sorry for you if you REALLY do buy the hype.

[madmunchie]

44. I feel sorry for you if you have lost HOPE

[knixphan]

10. The Clintons were ok with throwing Dean out...

And re-creating the DNC in their image... not cool. And glad it didn't happen.

Barack is almost single-handedly validating Howard Dean, and I'm happy about that.

Next we need to re-create the DNC in Dean/Obama's image.

[Fox Mulder]

13. I would be really upset if Edwards endorses HRC.

[saracat]

22. Why? Surely it is his business who he endorses? I could care less if he endorses Obama.

He may endorse no one. I would be surprised his he endorses Obama because he will ne endorsing against his own health care plan.

[PoliticalAmazon]

31. HRC is the opposite of everything Edwards says he stands for.

For Edwards to endorse Hillary Clinton, he would have to flip on everything he claims is important for our country.

I think these rumors about Edwards supporting Clinton are just more of the Clinton's campaign tactic of using Hitler's Big Lie.

[saracat]

33. And Edwards isn't a big fan of Obama and his "guaranteeing business and health care a "seat at the

table " either. And he really doesn't like that fact that Obama doesn't endorse universal health care. And Hillary has the health care plan as John. That is really important to him.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

18. I hope both Gore and Edwards stay out of it.

:yoiks:

[surfermaw]

37. I hope it is tied up and Gore comes in the convention

he is the most experienced, and stands a chance of stomping republicans.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

39. Thank you. I agree.

:hide:


Gore: The Best Of The Country for The Good of The World.:patriot:

Edwards would make a good Veep :kick:

[nsd]

19. I think Gore is waiting for June.

At the end of the primary season, Obama is probably still going to be a couple hundred short of 2024 delegates. I expect that the remaining uncommitted superdelegates will then move en masse towards him -- led by Al Gore. More than anyone else in the party, Gore has the stature to say, "Enough. It's time to come together."

I don't think an Edwards endorsement of Clinton at this point would have much effect. If he wanted to play a king-making (or queen-making) role, he should have endorsed before Super Tuesday.

[madmunchie]

23. That would be awesome.

[NastyRiffraff]

28. Y'know, it really doesn't matter what you, or I, or anyone here thinks

Edwards will endorse whomever he wants, whenever he wants. Or, he'll endorse no one. Ditto for Gore. I highly doubt if Gore would endorse Obama simply because Edwards endorsed Clinton (let alone rush to do it "IMMEDIATELY").

In other words, neither man cares what you think, or what you want them to do.

[madmunchie]

29. Gee, really????

[PoliticalAmazon]

30. Can't see Edwards endorsing Hillary Clinton...

Hillary Clinton is the AntiJohnEdwards. I can't see him endorsing her. She represents everything he stands against.

[saracat]

34. She has his health care plan. Obama doesn't stand for anything John represents.

Obama guaranteess business and big Pharma a 'seat at the table' John said never give then a seat.They eat all the food.

[surfermaw]

35. Who are you to tell Gore what to do... If I thought he would listen, I say run Gore Run

[saltpoint]

40. It would be more entertaining if they both endorse Gravel.

[Horse with no Name]

41. Oh for fucks sake

This is NOT kindergarten and I am QUITE sure that IF Gore had wanted to endorse, he would have already done so.
However...you talk about "fair" endorsements...Obama DID get Kerry, Dodd, Kennedy...etc...yet you DEMAND that Gore negate Edwards endorsement if he so chooses to endorse Clinton? Who negated THEIR endorsements since you want tit for tat?
:rolling on the fucking floor laughing at you:
I HOPE that Edwards AND Gore BOTH stay out of the fray.
This party is going to have a long way to go to heal and there needs to be some ADULTS who put the party interests ahead of themselves and held back on the endorsements for this particular reason. Edwards and Gore will be perfect in that role.

[ClericJohnPreston]

43. Yeah, thats the ticket

That nasty John Edwards. You'll show him...lets get Gore to right this wrong.

Are you Obamites for real? Please tell me this isn't parody. You're just kidding...right?

As someone who knows a little bit about John Edwards, let me tell you that the only hypocritical move he could make, would be to support Obama, a RIGHT-WING Democrat, fond of insurance companies and having a detente with them and Conservoscum.

That isn't John Edwards. He is a LEFT-WING Democrat with core Democratic values; you know, those values that you as a "Democrat" don't share.