Rev. Wright trainwreck continues

[quinnox]

Don't look now but all the Obama supporters trying to pretend the Wright story is over better not turn on CNN, they are going to do another segment on it.

And Obama knows this story is killing him, otherwise he wouldn't be making a big speech about it tomorrow!

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[jaysunb]

4. Agreed

n/t

[ericgtr]

106. My post was deleted

as it turns out you can freely post this kind of hate but if you reply to it in kind, your post will be removed, at least if it doesn't favor Hillary.

[BOSSHOG]

5. Just love your efforts of unity

Its a good thing that supporters of Obama on here have posted absolutely nothing that could be used against anyone else. Cause you guys are perfect.

[MADem]

68. Heh heh....! nt

[goldcanyonaz]

8. LOL! Hope and Change = More of the same.

[LuvMyPorsche]

14. yup, hope-change, change-hope. Tooth fairy speech is inbound! nt

[cboy4]

11. The frustration of Obama blowing his campaign is causing

so many supporters to lose their composure.

It's shocking.

But when you embrace certain people . . .

[Forkboy]

17. Stick to GD where you don't sound like every other dipshit blind supporter.

[cboy4]

33. But I don't support Hillary. I'm an independent

analyst who is simply pointing out the meltdown.

And now listen to you Forkboy.

Even you are losing your composure. This is a crisis situation.

[Forkboy]

57. That's analysis like pork is a vegatable.

And I talk like this all time, and I learned down in the sports forum that you can take it.

[cboy4]

65. lol...what the hell are you talking about you dork?

Actually, you crack me up so I like you.

And I can take it, even though I'm sure you meant that as a gay joke. ;)

BTW, you told me to go to General Discussion.

Even before you wrote that, I had, and I actually posted a very nice thread.

Yet none of you crazy ass Obama supporters (LOL!!) are paying any attention to it.

What's up with that forkboy?

[Forkboy]

73. I recommended that thread.

Dork.

[cboy4]

83. Ughhh, Well, I wanted you to write something too....how about

expanding on how clever you always tell me I am when I pin you in a corner all the time when we argue about sports and other topics?

[bicentennial_baby]

38. !

:applause:

[americanstranger]

24. Yeah, they're so desperate they're posting crap from NewsMax!

Oh, wait...

- as

[quinnox]

37. Yes, the Obama maniacs hate it when reality intrudes

Living in dreamland can make a reality check unpleasant indeed.

[CreekDog]

50. thank goodness loss of composure is limited to just one side!

:rofl: :crazy:

[cboy4]

61. No, you're right. And I can't imagine the internal panic

many of the Obama supporters who guaranteed the White House must be dealing with right now.

You know what I'm sayin CreekDog?

[CreekDog]

64. anyone who guarantees anything is being foolish

loss of composure has been on every side from the beginning.

it's emotional and that's just what happens when things get emotional. but hopefully, people can turn down the volume because each side's success depends on the other side's support.

[reggie the dog]

100. How is he blowing his campaign??? Anger is justified.

So his preacher said that it was the United States of White America, since when has the USA not favored white people???
People that do not want to deal with the way that black communities were underdevelopped by the capitalist system in the USA, even compared to the non rich white community, is not ready to deal with the American reality. Black people have reason to be angry in the USA. Hell the way capitalism treated black people worldwide and continues to do so gives black people the world over reason to be angry. Poor whites have reason to be angry as well. Perhaps a certain percentage of white middle and upper class people have nothing to be angry about, if they choose to close their eyes to all the misery propagated in the world so theat they can continue to live their self absorbed liveds. If you are happy and think that people have no reason to feel like outcasts in their own countries you are either honestly blind to your surroundings or you choose to ignore other the problems of others. If you do not know what it feels like to be unwelcome and unwanted in your own country, or have no empthay for those that are unwelcome or unwanted by a segment of the USA you probably think that Wright is not justified.

As someone who, according to pappy Bush, was public enemy number one, a teeager with a bong full of marijuana, as someone who had a cop hold a gun to their head while they asked permission to search their truck for cannabis because they fit the descrption of a drug runner (that day it was being white, young, and alone in the hills of Virginia) and refused, only to have the cops look anyway and then tell you they should kill you because people like you are ruining the USA (people like me being people that had a bag of grass to smoke in their camping gear), as someone who learned at school that their father belonged in jail and had no right to raise me ( he smoked weed once or twice a month) but still never ratted out their father, I STRONGLY EMPHASIZE WITH OPPRESSED PEOPLE STILL LIVING IN THE USA, even though I already left.

I left because of my personal anger against the war on drugs, my anger about the war on terrorism, the anger about an economic system in which the rich are allowed to get richer without having a moral obligation to help the poor, the anger about US economic colonialism, and the anger of being surrounded by greedy, self centered assholes who thought I was strange because I used my MA to be a teacher instead of making myself rich (I actually lost an American girlfriend because I chose grad school to be a teacher over law school after I did equally well on the GRE and the LSAT).
At least Wright stayed in the USA to fight. I gave up. I took the easy way.

For all of you that think the preacher Obama visits has no justification for his anger I ask the following questions.

Do you have empathy? If not take a pill of pure MDMA and then rethink the situation.

Do you care about anyone but yourselves? If not, again, pop a pill of pure MDMA and get back to me. (do not forget MDMA was legal until the mid 80's, Reagan made it illegal, too many people were feeling empathy and paff, it was forbidden.)
Do you dream of living in a country where the color of someones skin is as of much insignificance as the color of their eyes? If not, you are part of the problem.

[cboy4]

110. He's blowing his campaign by the pandering.

He's distancing himself now...just as he attempted to do after he sucked up to crazy ass Donnie McClurkin.

But you can't have it both ways reggie the dog, which is why there's trouble in paradise.

And all of your ecstasy, date rape drugs and everything else you pour into your body isn't going to change things.

It might help you feel better, but you'd only be numbing the pain.

[reggie the dog]

116. MDMA a date rape drug????

Who in the hell would even want to have sex on MDMA??? The empathy and feelings of love are so great that most folks would not even want sex, at least not till the comedown. Also explain to me how someone under the influence of a drug that makes you feel empathy and love could even consider raping someone? Why would you rape someone who would remember what you did to her? MDMA does not make you black out. Folks that want to date rape ususally use the old standby alcohol or perhaps the ever vicious GHB in the alcohol nonsense in order to make the girl black out and not remember anything. With MDMA you pretty much remember everything. This is not the case for shitty cut up ecstacy pills which have speed, ketamine, and heroin mixed with the MDMA, mind you.

MDMA was used in therapy sessions before it was made illegal simply because it does not numb the pain, it makes you realize how to use parts of your brain you were not using. You do not forget the empathy when it wears off, many people find using MDMA a few times in their life to be a quite mind opening experience.

As for Osama distancing himself I will wait and see what he says in his next speech. Perhaps he will try to explain to Americans why Wright might hold such anger. Wright is defendable, McClurkin was not.

[movonne]

15. You are so right ... this must be a repug in dem clothing....

[Window]

16. LOL! Good one. I second that emotion.

:thumbsup:

[Forkboy]

20. He was a big Lieberman defender here years ago.

I knew what he was long, long ago.

[stillcool]

40. like Barbara Boxer?

[Forkboy]

59. Yep, just like that. Your point?

And did Boxer call people who criticized Joe anti-semites?

[stillcool]

71. My point?

that anyone who supported a fellow Democrat in his 2006 bid for the Senate is scum. I have also read about how newly elected Senators choose a mentor to show them the ropes, and Obama picked <GASP> Al Gore's running mate!!! Scum. As for what Barbara Boxer called those who didn't support Joementum...I don't know...they're all scum!!

[Forkboy]

74. ooooooooooooooooooooooo k

[Straight Shooter]

92. Well, GASP! He chose Lieberman when Lieberman was the most reviled member of Congress to Democrats.

Good judgment? Nope. Sucking up to power? You betcha!

[stillcool]

103. Al Gore's running mate?

maybe he though Al Gore had good judgment? Who did Hillary choose for her mentor?

[Straight Shooter]

125. Lieberman was chosen for Al Gore, AFAIK, just as GHW bush was chosen for Reagan.

Good question about Hillary's mentor. She probably didn't need one, since she knew her way around already.

[BigDDem]

56. kind of like BO was?

"I am absolutely certain Connecticut is going to have the good sense to send Joe Lieberman back to the U.S. Senate so he can continue to serve on our behalf." BO

[Forkboy]

58. Yep, just like Obama. Your point, as I'm not one of Obama's supporters?

[angie_love]

53. LOL!

[DangerDave921]

60. uncalled for

The OP was just stating a plain and simple fact. CNN is going to show more on this, this story has some legs, and Obama is getting hurt by it. How is that Repub? Or even worse, how does that make the OP a piece of shit?

Just because you may not want to hear something you don't like doesn't mean the person saying it is full of shit. That's very juvenile of you.

[fishnfla]

2. he should be talking about the economy

this is the classic swiftboat trap

[Why Syzygy]

Wrong.

Kerry never defended himself. The Clintons distanced themselves from him when he was being swiftboated. A Democrat in the WH in 2004 did not suit their time table.

I'm glad he's going to talk about it. Maybe it will help some people grow up and get the hell over it.

[Scurrilous]

3. Oh no!

Not a CNN segment!!

Obama is doomed!!!

:scared: :scared: :scared:

[SoFlaJet]

12. sad

when the only good news coming out of your candidate's campaign today is bad news about your opponent-from CN-fucking-N. BTW scur, did you hear we gained another SD today?

[Scurrilous]

13. Yep..

...I saw that.

Good news! :thumbsup:

[Tarheel_Dem]

18. I know...the (C)linton (N)ews (N)etwork, who'da thunk it?

[rodeodance]

77. you are jealous

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

6. looks like this is Clinton's best policy point

[rodeodance]

91. HA HA--BO uses POOR JUDGEment and your folks blame it on Hillary. SHAME ON YOU

[NanceGreggs]

7. Don't look now, but ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5124819

Results of CNN survey conducted March 14 - 16.

[Tarheel_Dem]

30. Thanks Nance Greggs.....

(CNN) -- A majority of Democrats would like to see Barack Obama rather than Hillary Clinton win their party's presidential nomination, according to a national poll out Monday.

Fifty-two percent of registered Democrats questioned in a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey say the senator from Illinois is their choice for president, with 45 percent supporting Clinton.

The poll also suggests Democrats are more enthusiastic about an Obama victory (45 percent) than for a victory by the senator from New York (38 percent).

"The same patterns that we have been seeing in recent exit polls are holding true for Democrats nationwide as well. Obama's biggest support comes from men, younger voters and independents who lean Democratic," CNN polling director Keating Holland said. "Clinton does best among women, older voters and whites. One interesting difference, unlike the exit polls in many states, there is no difference in the national poll between college-educated Democrats and those who never attended college."

And I'll bet CNN was loathed to report these results since they've become mini-Fox. I have hope that the American people are a lot smarter than the media gives them credit for. There are some other polls out today that have good news for Obama as well.


:hi:

[jillan]

45. Then you better not look here, Rasmussen shows Obama's numbers down because of Wright.

The dialogue about Wright’s controversial comments appears to have had at least a short-term impact on public perceptions of Barack Obama. The Illinois Senator is viewed favorably today by just 47% of voters nationwide. That’s down five points since last Thursday (see recent daily results). The number with an unfavorable view of Obama has risen from 44% on Thursday to 50% today. Among White voters, Obama is now viewed favorably by 43% and unfavorably by 54%.

Looked at from a slightly longer perspective, Obama’s overall favorable ratings peaked at 56% on February 21, shortly after he won the Wisconsin Primary. At that point, Clinton began raising questions about Obama as part of the campaign that ultimately enabled her to win the Texas and Ohio Primaries. Since then, Obama’s net favorability ratings have fallen seventeen points (from plus 14 points on February 21 to minus 3 points today).

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

[oasis]

95. Mmmm by golly gosh!

:wow:

[rodeodance]

104. oh my gosh by golly --NOSE DIVING FOR MR.OBAMA

[LSparkle]

9. A big speech on race that is WAY overdue ... a good opportunity

to show LEADERSHIP on an issue that others ignore.

[CatsDogsBabies]

29. I agree

all of this stuff of the past weeks shows that there are still many racial tensions in this country. I think it is great that someone is actually willing to say something instead of just ignoring it. This country needs to come to terms with its current and past racism, why are so many on DU acting like this is such a bad thing? I am not even talking about it in terms of the primaries or the elections or whatever, but just in terms of someone who people listen to being willing to get up and speak. BO is a brave man - I admire him for it.

[LSparkle]

10. Delete -- dupe

[Not the Only One]

19. Better to get punched now than in October.

Obama has a ton of time to get by this.

[BeyondGeography]

Or the week before Pa.

Really, this couldn't have come at a better time.

[keep_it_real]

21. They are trying to destroy his campaign.

The insiders and those who control the MSM want the nomination to go to Hillary; she's a inside plays. Obama is a unknow. The fix is in.

[rodeodance]

87. BO DID THIS TO HIMSELF--hillary did NOT tell him to associated with Wright

[reggie the dog]

107. What is wrong with what he did???

You people are talking about someone who, if they only deliver on sermon a week, has delivered 1,560 sermons in his life, and you are bitching about what he said in 2 sermons.

Perhaps Obama simply did not want to risk getting a preacher who delivered one lousy sermon a week, or even a year, but one a decade??????Where is the problem?

[rodeodance]

108. ASK BO---He is the one in damage control AND wiped his website free of Wright crap.

[reggie the dog]

114. I dont need to ask

I kind of figure that he will talk about that in his next speech. As for taking the stuff about Wright off of his website that is, as you say, damage control. He sees that the media is making news out of this, as if it were more important than the economic collapse, the value of the dollar etc. and wants to reduce the possibility of the media making something out of nothing.

[americanstranger]

118. And if he didn't take that Wright info off his site...

...you'd be bitching about that.

Nothing Obama does will ever be okay with you. Why don't you just come out and say it?

- as

[rodeodance]

119. too bad

[azmouse]

22. No worries.

With the hatefilled Fundie ministers that support McSame, the Reps can't throw this at Obama in the GE.

[Cant trust em]

23. Let the media feast on this for now.

Soon it will have had all the exposure it can get, then by the time the GE rolls around people won't care about it anymore. Now is the best time for this to come out. Obama has five weeks before the PA primaries. Plenty of time for damage control and for people to get bored with this story. If there's anything that history has shown us about American politics, it's that people have short memories.

[MojoMojoMojo]

25. I expect to hear Obamas MLK impersonation.Kind of phony IMO

[quinnox]

31. agreed

Obama doesn't hold a candle to MLK, and it is insulting when Obama supporters try to compare them.

[cali]

26. We'll see. So far it doesn't seem to have done any real damage to

him. His poll numbers aren't going down in any significant way and in a new CNN poll, dems prefer him to Hilly 52 to 45. Of course, he's addressing it, he's not willing to let the media define him with Wright. I doubt that Wright will prevent him from getting the nomination. Poor hilly and poor hill supporters. They had such high hopes.

[quinnox]

27. Go HIllary!

There is still time yet, Obama may have more scandals in his closet. Like Hillary said, we are just getting started!

[cali]

35. Sorry. It's too late to be just getting started. duh.

[quinnox]

44. You ain't seen nothing yet

Go Hillary!

All democrats should be taking a second look right now.

[Madam Mossfern]

63. Can you tell me how Pastor Wright's comments

make Hillary a better candidate?

[pscot]

66. You got that right

and we'll see lots more of it before HRC concedes.

[Tarheel_Dem]

36. and Hillary is scandal free?

:rofl:

Boy, I can't wait until they FINALLY release those financial records since 2001. The media will have a field day. All that Saudi money........yyyyyuuuuuummmmmmmyyyyyy

[CatsDogsBabies]

43. You're kidding

Clearly this inordinate focus on Obama's pastor means there is nothing in Obama's closet. It is pretty bad when the only way you can attack the candidate is to attack an old, retiring, former marine, who has spent his life building a church preaches a social gospel and has many ministries to the local community. I agree that Rev. Wright said some really over the top things, but really, you people are attacking an old man, a veteran, a pastor who is being defended by the wider United Church of Christ. It's pathetic.

[Kber]

54. That's a pretty good point

"Clearly this inordinate focus on Obama's pastor means there is nothing in Obama's closet."

[MojoMojoMojo]

28. Poor USA if Obama faces Mccain.8 more years of GOP

[cali]

32. put down that faux crystal ball

it's impossible to know what will transpire in November.

[Larkspur]

34. Race has always been a provocative topic

But our corporate media climate is more interested in making a quick buck and protecting their privileged status than having an honest discussion about this controversial topic. Honest discussions don't fit into their 30 second sound bites, but smears do!

[Tarheel_Dem]

48. I have to agree with you about the media, an honest discussion about

race relations is the last thing they want. But, handled properly, I think Obama is the perfect person to begin the debate in an earnest way. Afterall, he lives in both worlds as it were.

I'm not at all surprised when the right uses race baiting tactics, but from the comments I've read on this board lately, I have to ask myself how I could remain a member of this party for 32 years? I have to believe that some of the most vile comments are not representative of the party to which I've been so loyal, my entire adult life.

Some have asked how Obama could remain a member of this church for 20 years, and as stated above, I have to ask myself why I've been a Democrat for 32 years.

[Cant trust em]

39. after this broke on Friday he picked up delegates in Iowa over the weekend

The fact that Obama attends a church presided over by a "radical" pastor didn't seem to have much effect on Obama in a highly evangelical state like Iowa.

[GhostofSandpiper]

41. Uppity Negro Ministers

Have been a threat to our fragile way of life for far too long.

They must be destroyed, along with anyone who knows them.

:sarcasm:

[Perry Logan]

42. Once again, the Obama supporters need to get their story straight...

Some of them say this scandal will not seriously hurt Obama--that it comes early, it's no big deal, Obama can distance himself from it, etc., etc. Others say the whole thing is part of a masterful scheme to torpedo Obama's campaign. It seems almost impossible that both theories are true.

[quinnox]

46. heh!

Yes they are not on the same page.

And I love it when they say the scandal is over for 2 days and then Obama announces he is giving a major damage control speech the next day!

[Madam Mossfern]

62. Perhaps that's because we don't all have our talking points

suggested to us by someone else in Obama's campaign. Ya think?
Contrary to what some here may believe, we are independent thinkers, that's why we don't all sound the same.

[rodeodance]

122. ha ha---most of you all have the same talking points. you are funny. te he

[stillcool]

47. actually Obama supporters don't...

follow any script. I guess they don't get their talking points from NewsMax, Fox, and Hillary 44. The scandal is only a scandal to those who want it to be. Wishing doesn't make it so.

[Drachasor]

51. Dangit, some of us are missing the secret meetings again!

How dare they have their own opinions!

[elixir]

49. Yup, it seems like the train is rolling through Monday and into Tuesday. You know what that means..

wall to wall Hillary hate on the board tomorrow. Congratulations Obama supporters on the hope and change thing, I'm glad it's working out.

[quinnox]

52. good one

Yes, the hope and change message seems to have fallen on deaf ears for DU Obama supporters. What happened to all their hope?

[CatsDogsBabies]

55. You are the one

who started this thread???? Why start the thread when you know that not everyone is going to be thrilled with YET ANOTHER Rev. Wright thread?

[haymakeragain]

75. Which one of you

Hilltites is coultergeist?

[meow mix]

67. Trainwreck for hillary her poll among democrats is plummeting

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

82. TODAY/Gallup Poll: Clinton up 5 points on McCain; Obama up 2

TODAY/Gallup Poll: Clinton up 5 points on McCain; Obama up 2
Mon Mar-17-08 01:23 PM

If the election were held today (and yes, we know it won't be), Democratic contender Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton would get 51% of the vote to Republican candidate Sen. John McCain's 46%, the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll estimates. In a match-up between Democratic Sen. Barack Obama and McCain, Obama comes out ahead 49%-47%.

Both Democrats have overtaken McCain since the last USA TODAY/Gallup survey. In that Feb. 21-24 poll, McCain led Clinton 50%-46% and he led Obama 48%-47%.

Gallup surveyed 685 "likely" voters across the nation from Friday through Sunday. It says the margin of error on each result is +/- 4 percentage points. That means neither Clinton nor Obama's lead in the new poll is "outside" that margin. Clinton's support could be as low as 47% (because 51-4=47) and McCain's could be as high as 50% (because 46+4=50).

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/03/usa-todaygallup.html

[blm]

69. Kingdom Holdings (House of Saud) only trusts Bushes and Clintons to handle their interests.

So why is anyone surprised any longer that AOL/TimeWarner/CNN is going to shill for a Bush or a Clinton?

Did Gore bury BCCI matters? Did Kerry bury BCCI matters? Did Obama bury BCCI matters?

Bushes and Clintons have proven their fealty to Dubai and Saudi Arabia.

[rodeodance]

79. BO favorability rating NOSEDIVING--down 17 pts since WI

[oasis]

98. Expect a bigger drop after more voters find out that Obama's mentor is a nutjob.

:nopity:

[rodeodance]

102. Bo has had a lot of those nutjobs as you say

[blm]

120. Not all Dems have mentors like GHWBush and Jackson Stephens. But then not all Dems

believe in protecting the BFEE as job one like the Clintons do.

[blm]

117. Closed government protectors certainly don't want Obama - they NEED Clintons who've proven

that the powerful elite can trust their secrecy and privilege will be way more important to them than Dem voters like you..........or me.

[NorthernSpy]

70. Uh-oh -- looks like Kessler and Kristol wrecked the wrong train...

And Kristol had to retract what he wrote in the New York Times. Yeah, nobody is gonna notice that.


:rofl:


Too bad, quinnox. Your side just got caught pulling a dirty trick, and it's become the story.



http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/kristol_bungles_key_fact_in_an.php

[JoFerret]

72. It's what we know will hit in October that bothers me

after the GOP convention gets everyone riled up.

[haymakeragain]

78. The economy is going to be a disaster by October, Wright won't

mean shit. Obama can be the next President of the US if he isn't crow-barred by the DLC.

If.

[JoFerret]

81. So Obama's vulnerabilites will be ALL they have

so we will hear even more of it.


In term of the economy - and all that wright bullshit aside - it is my belief that Hillary has the wherewithal to get the economy back on track better than Obama.

But both will be vastly better than any GOP tax cutting lunatic.

[haymakeragain]

111. One man's opinion. I don't doubt Hillary's superiority to the Repubes

with regard to the economy. I am not afraid of the Repube noise machine and you shouldn't be either. They are out of gas. It's just hollow rhetoric and most know it now. The dimwits fucked up, they trusted them. Now they are in a world of hurt and will stay home or vote Obama. Vote Hillary, I'm not so sure.

The only thing stopping Obama from being President is Hillary, and it ain't pretty either. Can Hillary win it if she takes Obama down? In this man's opinion.......maybe. Maybe not.

[rodeodance]

76. yup--BO is in full damage control mode.

[haymakeragain]

80. Says you.

I've told the Hiltites this for days, they are going to regret giving Obama a stage regarding "race", cause he will knock it out of the park. Can't wait for tomorrow. You don't think that he saw this moment coming? You don't think he's ready for this challenge.

I'll answer that, he is ready.

[rodeodance]

84. Gallup Daily: Clinton Now at 47%, Obama at 45%

Gallup Daily: Clinton Now at 47%, Obama at 45%
Posted by BooScout on Mon Mar-17-08 01:09 PM

http://www.gallup.com/poll/105040/Gallup-Daily-Clinton-Now-47-Obama-45.aspx

PRINCETON, NJ -- Gallup Poll Daily election tracking from March 14-16 finds Hillary Clinton's bid for the 2008 Democratic nomination supported by 47% of national Democratic voters, and Barack Obama's candidacy favored by 45%.

[haymakeragain]

88. So what?

Got war?

[rodeodance]

109. such sour grapes. tsk tsk

[haymakeragain]

112. Sour grapes over what, a poll? FYI, polls don't count.

What's the delegate count currently?

[rodeodance]

113. The OP is about the poll. bye

[haymakeragain]

121. So again I say, who cares, it's a poll? Considering all the

wailing on about the dirty, dark-skinned, racist, mean, mean, mean old treasonous PREACHER, that has been overblown for the past 4 days, I'd say he looks fine.

Barack is going to turn it on its head tomorrow. Wait and see.

[rodeodance]

86. BO racialized this primary since NH ~~ It is his problem.

[haymakeragain]

97. Only in your mind rodeo,

we know how we got here. Obama is going to kill it tomorrow and it'll be you alls' fault for overplaying it. Obama didn't say any of those things. He wasn't there when wright said them. Nobody believes that Obama subscribes to those opinions except people who want to undermine him in order to retain the status quo. This is just the latest bit of clothing that you Hiltite bulldogs are biting hold of, and it will tear free tomorrow.

Obama is going to seal the nomination tomorrow and it is going to be at least partly the fault of the card playing Clinton campaign. You made it about race. It's not about race, it's about time.

[Beacool]

85. Yep, I've read countless boards from all sides of the political spectrum and the natives are restles...

The amount of people who are outraged by Wright's comments about the US and Hillary are in the thousands. The controversy will not die down quickly.

That's what happens when a candidate is not vetted properly......

[Johnny__Motown]

89. It will be over in a week

[Orsino]

115. I think it sort of is.

Never seemed to gain the national traction that they wanted.

We'll see, though. This could be the flag-lapel-pin all over again.

[RBInMaine]

90. Yeah, you just love that right wing corporate media trash don't you !

[rodeodance]

93. It's BO'S poor JUDGMENT that lead him to associated with Wright. Such on that.

[NorthernSpy]

96. And it's YOUR poor JUDGEMENT that lead you to the fukkkups at newsmax...

... which is why the Kessler-Kristol "bombshell" just blew up in your faces.


Suck on that.

[rodeodance]

99. too bad it is being covered ALL AROUND THE WORLD.

[rodeodance]

101. BO does not need you to babysit for him.

[Samantha]

94. Rachel Maddow's response just mentioned on MSNBC

Obama should go on the offensive on this issue. Obama should dig up one of the comments that was spewed by a McCain endorser: the people of New Orleans DESERVED to be hit by Katrina because of its transgressions (not the precise word but the best one I can come up with now).

From where I sit, Obama's pastor sounds a lot like the hell fire and brimstone teachers I heard as a child in the pews of Southern Baptist churches. They used to scare the Be-Jesus out of me. I think its big mistake to mix politics with religion. It's a position I feel so strongly on I left my church. The Baptists were the only denomination to come out in support of a preemptive attack on Iraq. I was outraged.

People patronize churches for religious food, not political insights. These examinations of the Obama family's church is an invasion of his privacy. They have zero pertinence to his political positions and are not relevant to the discussion -- simply inflammatory.

[Kahuna]

105. Pretend?? According to the latest CNN poll out 2 hrs. ago, Obama tops

Hillary 52% to 45 percent for poor Little Hilly.

[debbierlus]

123. This is the most pathetic 'scandal' yet -

Really pathetic.

Who the hell cares?

Obama did nothing wrong, and he is left to fend for remarks he never even made. What about all the fucking right wing nuts that tell us WE (the liberals, gays, pot smokers, fill in the blank)...get Hurricane Katrina because we sinned. And, damn us for all eternity to win elections.

Fuck this and fuck them.

[KoKo]

124. It's gone on longer than I would have thought. Maybe Obama's speech tomorrrow

will put it to rest. But, I'd rather hear him trashing McCain for that "Stunt" he's pulled over in the ME where he sits in "gilded chairs" with Iraqi "Put Up/US Installed Govt." and tries to LOOK "Presidential." Obama might also be laying out his plan to deal with Wall St. Greed and Corruption and how our Government is doing "Socialized Bailout." I'd rather hear that than him carrying on about Race Relations. Sheesh!

[rodeodance]

130. His campaign has racialized this primary. His speech is Damage Control and people know it.

[RiverStone]

126. No, he is turning adversity into opportunity...

Part of the reason he will make an amazing president!

[cd3dem]

127. CNN is not anything compared to FOX

Fox has been doing non-stop replaying the Wright tape... if this was a White minister talking about Blacks this way.. we would be in a state of riots!

[better tomorrow]

128. at least he does damage control.....

now, where are those taxes, Hillary?

[NMMatt]

129. We will see

But if he does survive this and emerge stronger you will no longer have your "vetted" argument. In any case, your gloating over this is disgusting and typical coming from a Clinton world view.