Just curious.....When did Jeremiah Wright file his nominating papers?

[Armstead]

Seems like we all have become more interested in his speeches and beliefs than either of the other two candidates lately.

I must've missed something. When exactly did he become a candidate?

[Adelante]

1. What a good question nt

[wndycty]

3. The right wing and a few DUers will do anything to paing Obama as an angry Black man

:kick:

[XemaSab]

2. He was originally on the ballot in Michigan, but he took his name off.

:popcorn:

[Armstead]

Some popcorn back to you

[Horse with no Name]

4. I must have missed the ones Ferraro filed too

because you all were pissing persimmon pits when she made her comment.

[Armstead]

6. That's a good point....But this has gone way beyond that

[Horse with no Name]

10. It really hasn't. n/t

[thevoiceofreason]

25. O yes it has

[Armstead]

30. Has too

Okay we disagree on that.

[backscatter712]

13. When Ferraro made her racist statements, she was working as a representative of the Clinton Campaign

Wright was not working as a representative of the Obama campaign when he made those sermons years ago. He was doing them solely in the role of minister of his church.

Very important difference.

That's why I don't consider Obama responsible for Wright's statements, but I do consider Clinton responsible for Ferarro's statements.

[BuyingThyme]

5. He's on the Words Matter ticket with Geraldine Ferraro.

[Armstead]

8. But which one is at the top of the ticket?

[LSparkle]

7. Exactly!

If we were to examine the words of EVERY ONE of Hillary's advisors/surrogates, I'm sure
we'd find some things that are objectionable. We should be focusing on what Obama DID
after being inspired by Rev. Wright -- to put his faith into action, working with the
poor, crafting an inclusive, uniting message for the nation -- not a few sermons that
got a little hot over a career that lasted more than 30 years.

[Horse with no Name]

11. You do. Have you not seen the forum where every single thing

Bill CLinton has ever done has been dragged there to gawk and piss on?
Never mind that Bill isn't Hillary...guilt by association is enough for most obamites to vent their bile.
Everyday. Nearly 75% of the posts in GDP.
obama has had a honeymoon with the press.
I cannot WAIT until they start digging through his closets and dragging out the skeletons.
I'll even invest in the good Orville Redenbacher.

[LSparkle]

12. Bill's actively campaigning for her, though -- Wright isn't

He's campaigning as if we're going to get "two-for-one" again ... which opens him up to
scrutiny. Wright was only a member of an advisory committee -- I don't recall him making
a campaign speech for Obama -- yet he seems to have become a reason NOT to vote for the man.
Obama has repudiated his remarks and Wright is no longer on the advisory committee. I don't
think there's many more "skeletons" left out there -- this feels like the garbage disposal
of the "kitchen sink".

[cooolandrew]

9. BRAVO *standing o* \o/

[DearAbby]

14. Since when was there a religious test in electing our leaders?

This shit is beyond scary.

[Armstead]

34. Nixon was a Quaker

Fat lot of good that did us.

[MyNameGoesHere]

15. So the new meme is that he isn't running for pres?

It's ok we all knew that anyway. He is still credited by Obama as a mentor and spiritual guide. He married the Obama's and has been associated with Obama for many years now. No he is not running for election but he looks good hanging like an albatross around Obama's neck. Obama's problem whether it is right or wrong. He must deal with it. It's your candidates problem.

[Unsane]

16. Awesome, so that's your defense?

Obama should just use your line. He'll be fine.

[Armstead]

20. Has a nice ring to it actually

"Pastor Wright isn't running for President. I am. You want to know what I believe? Ask me."

[Tarc]

17. Probably the same day that Geraldine Ferraro filed hers?

[FyurFly]

18. ZING!

[Armstead]

21. Could be..... I missed that one too.

It'd be nice if everybody could focus on the candidates again instead of what their second-cousin once removed might have said or done.

[MADem]

19. When did Donna Rice file hers? Shit happens. So do "associations." NT

[Armstead]

23. That's going to the Wayback machine-- In her case, her positions did matter.

Sorry, bad joke there

[MADem]

29. Hehehe....some associations stick, others don't. Time will tell on this one.

The members of the congregation, in their zeal to defend their former pastor, aren't helping the situation. They've carried the story into this week. Had they just left it, it would have been done by now, and the financial crisis, St. Patrick's Day and the new NY governor would have owned the news cycle.

[Armstead]

31. Was that headline a Freudian slip (re:Rice)?

Anyway, onto a more elevated plane....I think time will tell on the Obama Wright thing.

I can't blame the congregation for wanting to defend themselves.

I guess the longer term impact will depend on how Obama handles it in his speech tomorrow, and whether he can put it all in the proper context. If he does a good job, it could boost him. If not, he'll have to deal with it on a more serious, longer term basis.

[MADem]

33. My only point was that some associations stick. And it was Gary Hart who challenged

reporters to catch him out...so they did. And so, the association stuck.

In this case, Obama has disavowed, but the congregation needs to shut up now if he has any hope of putting this behind him.

I don't think, myself, that this is going away. I just don't. Even if it is tamped down now, it will be brought back up later.

[thevoiceofreason]

22. Ain't it the truth

Wanna bet there are some 527's with the goods of the "vetted" one?

[Texas Hill Country]

24. It gives significant insights into Obama's worldview when this is the man he chooses as his

moral compass and mentor... also puts Michelle's comments into context, doesnt it?

[Armstead]

26. Not really.....A few seconds here and there isn;t insight.

It's like the Dean Scream. One moment of excessive exurberance, and Dean was painted as a crazyman.

Wright's theology and political views and personal history are only relevant if there is an actual discussion of the substance and full context -- not a few example of rhetorical overkill.

[Texas Hill Country]

27. statements like this dont come out of nowhere...

[Armstead]

28. No they don't -- and that's the point

I'm not going to defend Wrights more outrageous statements.

However, if you took some of Martin Luther King's phrases out of context, he would sound just as incendiary.

And the relationship between Wright's socio-polotical beliefs and those of Obama is not cut-and-dried.

[Texas Hill Country]

32. I object to the comparisons to MLK... 40 years have passed and, while there are still big probs...

this is not the same America that MLK was talking about. I am sorry, but you CANNOT make a fair comparison between the two.

In addition, Wright went of the tinfoil deepend on some of the things he said... way off the deep end.