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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:43 PM Original message |
Can ANY Of You Obama Zealots Deny The Following Facts? |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. FACT NOT IN DISPUTE: Blacks didn't vote for Obama 9 - 1 until AFTER South Carolina. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. They didn't? |
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polpilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
311. Obama CAN WIN, Pro-War, Pro-NAFTA Clinton CAN'T. Any ?????????? |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. No, Barack played the race card in South Carolina |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
56. Um, no, unfortunately, Bill Clinton made racist remarks re: South Carolina |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:37 AM Response to Reply #56 |
276. silly---that is why you are wrong!!--It never made sense for Bill to |
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NDambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #276 |
290. Bull shit... |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #276 |
293. It very much made sense... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #293 |
306. You're right. Who do you think dug up Ferraro's old comment 1-2 days before MS? |
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Nedsdag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #276 |
295. GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL, RODEODANCE!!!!!! |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #295 |
297. Have you seen or read the entire interview? The reporter was specifically |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #295 |
305. Because only two candidates have won SC on racial voting. One is JJ. Who is the other? |
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InAbLuEsTaTe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #295 |
309. He has to know what you're saying is true, or at least knew it before drinking the Kool-Aid. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #276 |
300. Ahem-why did Leahy, Kennedy, Kerry, and Clyburn call him and |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:45 AM Response to Reply #56 |
280. Um, no, unfortunately you are wrong: the Obama campaign threw that race card. |
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NDambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #280 |
291. When it benefitted them...Bill and Hill use the AA community to get what they want..and when a black |
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InAbLuEsTaTe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #56 |
307. That was the beginning of the end, and you can thank Bill for that. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #34 |
64. Those poor Clintons. I'm so glad they'll never face the pressure |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #64 |
282. your crystal ball needs replacing. --there is sale down at the Dollar Store. |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
37. but NH 1.05%and Iowa 2.5% SC 30.01% AA 's so your arguement is about "until SC" is bad analogy |
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InAbLuEsTaTe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
310. THANK YOU for pointing this out! |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. I did a little analysis |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
22. Not A Bad Study... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. Deleted sub-thread |
Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. I suppose it would depend |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
5. Dude...it doesn't matter...we are going to WIN, WIN, WIN in November!! |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
35. I like you. (nt) |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:59 PM Original message |
:) Well thanks, I like me too. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. I would point out that what killed |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #6 |
136. "Majority white?" |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #136 |
231. ok. how about "lilly white" electorate? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #231 |
248. How about....? |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #248 |
258. I don't consider lilly-white to be racially charged. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:03 AM Response to Reply #258 |
263. Not Playing The Race Card... |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #263 |
268. lilly-white |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:03 AM Response to Reply #136 |
264. Stop making our point! |
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bilgewaterbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
7. Geraldine Ferraro admitted that she wouldn't have been the VP nominee |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. To Me... |
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bilgewaterbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
74. Then why did Hillary bail on her? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. I Can't Read Hillary's Mind, But... |
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bilgewaterbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #80 |
92. In other words "NO GUTS!" |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:36 PM Original message |
I Guess That's Politics For You |
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bilgewaterbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
118. Hillary is supported by more women. So the point of this thread was what? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:46 AM Response to Reply #118 |
189. The Point Was... |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #92 |
299. Or maybe Gerry left because she was afraid she would create more |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
104. Geraldine Ferraro was picked by one individual for that position--she didn't earn it with votes |
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bilgewaterbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #104 |
128. Well stated!! Kudos! |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
8. It is true that the demographic of the Southeast states favored him. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
83. I Couldn't Agree More |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #83 |
102. Obviously. |
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Heathen57 (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 03:18 AM Response to Reply #83 |
285. Perhaps that is because your OP |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
10. So, black people shouldn't be allowed to vote? What's your point and WTF are you using the word |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
97. Zealot Has Nothing To Do With Race. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #97 |
140. Well, that's mighty white of you |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #140 |
143. Good. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #143 |
156. Should their votes count as a full vote? Or maybe just 3/5 of a vote? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #156 |
188. Full |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #188 |
199. That's quite a progressive attitude |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #199 |
202. Nope. |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
11. self-delete |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Effe off. No one owes this race-baiting bullshit a response. |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
12. 2 can play |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
39. True... |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
13. Bill Clinton had 80 percent of African Americans give it up PLEASE. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Hmm... |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. Bill wouldn't have been Pres. without the black vote, though. n/t |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
65. John Kerry ran against Al Sharpton in the '04 primary and won the black vote. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #65 |
75. Nice Personal Attack |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Deleted message |
emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #76 |
90. Where did he say that? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. Thank You. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #76 |
91. Interesting "Logic" There |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
48. Well, he was the first black president doncha know |
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samdogmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
14. Wow! |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
47. That's Because You're Intolerant |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. We Should All Be Intolerant Of Blatant Ignorant Racism. I'm Proud Of Her For Being Intolerant Of It. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. Blatant Racism? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. I Think It's Mighty Rude Of You To Have Not Wished Me A Happy Birthday, Since You Obviously Think I |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #70 |
87. Keep Being Stupid, Then... |
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samdogmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #67 |
78. Guess what? Many...many people view Obama the same way they view Tiger Woods. |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
129. A more significant factor in a Clinton candidacy is all the people who are hostile to her... |
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samdogmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. Thanks! |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #57 |
132. I'm a bigot/racist? |
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samdogmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #132 |
201. Are you trying to go out with a bang or don't you have a clue? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #201 |
206. I'm Getting Pissed On Here, So I'm Standing Up For Myself |
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samdogmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #206 |
212. Do you wear big white sheets with little eye holes covering yourself in your free time? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #212 |
220. Why Am I Getting Pissed? |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
16. I guess that's how Obama won Iowa and Wyoming. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
33. You Misrepresented What A Said |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. Of course, you're right. Without blacks the race would be closer. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
99. Oh, OK. I Apologize For Yelling At You Then. |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
17. The flip side. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
114. What's The Purpose Of Her Comment? |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #114 |
127. And why was the first spontaneous reaction |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
18. Fact: : Obama could not have won with only the black vote. |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Black people only make up what 13% of the population? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
42. Not By Itself |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
19. Why does this matter? n/t |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
46. Because I Believe That The HYSTERIA Toward Ferrara Is Unfair... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. Oh Get Your Head Out Of Your Ass. For One, Her Name Is Ferraro, And Two, There's NO Factual Basis |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
103. No Factual Basis? |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #103 |
302. The female vote tends to go to Clinton ... what's your point? |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #46 |
191. There is no factual basis that is not arrived at with faulty logic steeped in racism |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #191 |
203. Depends on what "where he is" means |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:06 AM Response to Reply #203 |
267. Hillary Clinton represents 50% of the population |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
20. I for one don't understand the premise of your post actually... Yep, Barack is black... |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #20 |
190. I Didn't Hear That. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
21. Allow Me To Correct You And Your Ignorant If Not Bigoted And Racist Bullshit. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
59. You Have No Business Acting Like You Know Me |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
73. There Is No Factual Basis For What She Said, And I Don't Give A Rats Ass What Your Coworkers Would |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #73 |
204. That Proves That You're Presumptious |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
23. For some reason Ferraro needed to justify people voting for Obama instead of Hillary. It made |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
26. Do you have any idea of what "opportunity cost" means? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
207. Yes. |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
27. So what if they vote based on race... |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. PC. that's why. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
52. No, that's crap. Obama has the full support of the black community |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
124. Hillary Clinton will need 90 percent of the black vote in November to win |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
53. I Agree With You |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. That is what I was saying in my post below. |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
68. If you don't believe racism is right then you shouldn't believe that |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #68 |
208. EXACTLY! |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
29. Dems have always benefited from the black vote... |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #29 |
209. Oh No, I Don't Deny That |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
30. You do realize what Ferraro's statement was really about |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. Nah, that's crap. I think she was just flapping her beak and she stuck her |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #41 |
61. you're from MI |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
81. Indeed I do. :) |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
69. Exactly |
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americanstranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
71. She had numerous chances to clarify if that was the case. |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Who gives a crap? Is she running for office? No? Then who cares? |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
100. We care b/c we see a pattern |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #100 |
105. PA is not at all like MI and I should know, I've lived here all my life. |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #105 |
126. PA is a lot like MI and OH |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #126 |
141. Focus groups are nothing but framing messages themselves. Never watch them myself. |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #141 |
151. of course they're not powerless |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #151 |
165. Then show them YOUR power. Show them the framing of the messages. |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #165 |
179. I do - but I am not covered by every major |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #179 |
182. She is a blip on nothing. People in the US listen to people like them. |
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samdogmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. Thank you! This is the point and Clinton's campaign is behind it and promoting it |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #45 |
153. I know exactly what you mean. n/t |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
32. how substantial, what's the demographic... 12%? |
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Not the Only One (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
36. If Obama were white, he'd be crushing Hillary everywhere 65-35. |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
38. I was waiting for Ferraro to emphasize that angle |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
40. So, are you saying black people shouldn't have the vote or what? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #40 |
205. That's Not At All What I'm Saying. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
44. And Hillary's strength among older white women has NOTHING to do with her |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #44 |
250. I Didn't Say That |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
49. Hillary has gotten extra votes because she is white and a woman. |
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qazplm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
50. he'd still be in the lead |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:47 AM Response to Reply #50 |
246. Yes, I Said... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
51. Barack is black? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. Again! |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #51 |
155. WOW! A LOT Of You Need Help With Reading Comprehension |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #155 |
210. You're kidding! He's sorta BLACK? OMFG! |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #210 |
218. That's Subjective |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #218 |
221. It may not matter to you. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #221 |
243. I Said It Doesn't REALLY Matter |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
60. And John Kerry would have lost by 17 points were it not for the black vote |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
66. "Obviously, these citizens are voting for him because of his skin color" |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
72. Snort! |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
79. Bullshit. Where would Hillary be without White voters. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. We need a Remedial Personhood Forum. n/t |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Those were just "black votes"..... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. I asked the OP IF BLACK PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE THE VOTE |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. Maybe they are torn between "no" and "3/5ths"? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #88 |
134. Sorry, Didn't See Your Post |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
85. If Obama were white he would have won Texas |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #85 |
93. What Do You Base That On? |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #93 |
296. In both Texas and Ohio |
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milkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
86. Don't bother mentioning the votes he hasn't gotten because he's black. Just subtract |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. Why The Anger? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Why are you avoiding our questions? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:37 AM Response to Reply #96 |
233. Yes... |
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milkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #95 |
106. Huh? I'm clearly pointing out that you are only subtracting black votes from Obama that you say |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
89. You forgot one. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:35 PM Original message |
Keep using race to explain Obama's wins in Idaho, Washington, Utah, Maine, Vermont, and the other |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
108. Another Straw Man Argument |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #108 |
116. Do you know what a strawman fallacy is? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #116 |
211. Sorry. I'm Right, You're Wrong |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #211 |
256. I think Geraldine Ferrara is CORRECT that Obama wouldn't be in the same place as he is if he were a |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #108 |
122. Straw man, my ass! And your racist rant is obvious. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #122 |
222. I'm From The West, Too, and I Help Out All My Co-workers... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
101. Why would you assume that black people vote solely on the basis of race? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #101 |
111. It's True Of SOME African Americans |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #111 |
115. Is that code for "those black people vote for each other"? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #115 |
152. Notice that it went from "the lion's share" to "some" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #152 |
159. Racist code is racist code. Slippery, slimy and obvious. n/t |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:52 AM Response to Reply #152 |
255. Wrong. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #115 |
259. I'm Not Really Concerned... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #111 |
139. It seems like a negligible point, but I'll play |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
107. This is a divisive and horrible approach. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Blame The Press.... |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. The press didn't author your challenge and post it on Democratic Underground. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #110 |
125. Not At All... |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #125 |
135. Oh please |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. Who held the gun to your head? |
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johnnydrama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
113. it's the math |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #113 |
119. Perhaps I AM Incorrect On Mathematical Grounds |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
117. This Thread is Completely Amazing... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. This thread should have been locked at the OP |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
121. Is there a point to this, other than more flamebaiting? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #121 |
180. "Is it inconceivable that people vote for a person, and not a race or a gender?" |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
123. So blacks should only vote as a monolithic block in the general election? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 11:59 PM Response to Reply #123 |
130. Bull |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #130 |
131. Damn those "African Americans" for exercising their franchise. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #131 |
142. Your Words, Not Mine |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #142 |
149. Yours in essence. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #149 |
197. None Of Those Statements Are True |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #197 |
198. Your OP was FULL of support. I know. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #130 |
137. Well, thanks for pointing out this revolutionary fact |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #137 |
174. Where Were You...? |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
133. Please do me a favor... |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #133 |
138. Really? |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #138 |
144. You cannot be serious. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
145. STOP IT |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #145 |
186. Never Said It Was |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
146. STOP IT |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #146 |
160. Welcome to DU, Jake. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
147. I think that's a pretty moronic assertion. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #147 |
150. Your Straw Men Arguments Are What's Moronic |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #150 |
154. Right there in your original post: |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #154 |
157. Where's the Word "Only" In Your Quote? |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #157 |
158. No, you're misrepresenting it. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #158 |
167. Where does it say that ALL or even MOST Black Citizens Are Voting... |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #167 |
168. 'Citizens' is referring to 'African-American voters' in the preceding sentence. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #168 |
170. Um..duh? |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #170 |
172. Then you obviously can't read. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #172 |
177. No, I'm Correct |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #177 |
178. No, you're making contradictory and counterfactual assertions. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #178 |
181. "these citizens"... |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #181 |
184. A generalisation of 'African-American voters', |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:44 AM Response to Reply #184 |
187. You're PARTIALLY Correct... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:52 AM Response to Reply #187 |
196. Just about every competent racist I've ever known can parse just like this. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #196 |
240. I Can't Say FOR SURE What The Author Meant |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:52 AM Response to Reply #240 |
254. I think Geraldine Ferrara is CORRECT that Obama wouldn't be in the same place as he is if he were a |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #150 |
161. Do you even get what "straw man argument" means? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #161 |
171. Yes. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #161 |
173. No, it doesn't. n/t |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #150 |
162. Then is your point just to point out a statistic EVERYONE knows already? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #162 |
169. Are You Obama Fans Changing Your Tune? |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #169 |
175. No, her point is idiotic |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #169 |
176. Aren't your friends at Free Republic feeling neglected? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #176 |
183. Another Personal Attack? Nice. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #183 |
185. I have no problem contronting blatant racism. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #185 |
192. You Need A Reality Check... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #192 |
194. Nope. I've seen you and yours many times. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #194 |
215. "(me and mine)"? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #215 |
219. Don't think of it as stereotyping. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #219 |
226. I Think Of It As Hypocrisy |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #226 |
237. I think Geraldine Ferrara is CORRECT that Obama wouldn't be in the same place as he is if he were a |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #237 |
274. Was Ferraro Right? |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:52 AM Response to Reply #169 |
195. Duh. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #150 |
164. Are you being stupid or just dishonest? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:40 AM Response to Reply #164 |
278. OP does not live in a bublle --even Jim Lehrer was discussing this issue tonight. Wake up |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
148. The majority of Obama's vote is WHITE. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #148 |
163. ANOTHER Straw Man Argument |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #163 |
166. I think Geraldine Ferrara is CORRECT that Obama wouldn't be in the same place as he is if he were a |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #163 |
193. Of course its A FACTOR. It's more OBSTACLE than BENEFIT |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #163 |
200. Stop already with "straw man" |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:15 AM Response to Reply #200 |
213. Sorry Jen |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #213 |
216. People keep implying you said what you said. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #216 |
224. Yeah, Not In The Same Place In Terms Of Delegate Lead |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:43 AM Response to Reply #224 |
239. Right. Just in terms of what you've posted. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #216 |
232. . |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:29 AM Response to Reply #213 |
228. See, I hate when people use turns-of-phrase wrongly |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #228 |
230. You're Showing Your Intolerance Toward Me Again |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #230 |
251. Ohfergawdssake |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
214. Deleted message |
Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #214 |
225. Hillary is Genetically Inferior? |
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PerfectSage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:47 AM Response to Reply #225 |
245. You say bigotry I say sarcasm |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:56 AM Response to Reply #245 |
257. It's All Because Of Genetics? Genetics Is Everything, Huh? |
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PerfectSage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:20 AM Response to Reply #257 |
270. All nutty right wing genetically inferior christian "Fellowship" cultists like Hillary... |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
217. Can you deny that saying that his success has more to do with his race than |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:30 AM Response to Reply #217 |
229. Mischaracteriztion |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:17 AM Response to Reply #229 |
269. It wasn't an issue until Bill Clinton tried to turn Obama into Jesse Jackson. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
223. They can deny that water is wet if it helps The Cause. |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:28 AM Response to Reply #223 |
227. Not Only That... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #227 |
262. You don't get to hide behind code. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
234. What I want to know is |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #234 |
236. CLASSLESS |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #236 |
241. I think Geraldine Ferrara is CORRECT that Obama wouldn't be in the same place as he is if he were a |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #241 |
249. Actually, if he were a subatomic particle he wouldn't have a definite location |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #249 |
252. You are way too generous. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:45 AM Response to Reply #236 |
242. Did anyone call YOU a dumbass white person with a sense of entitlement? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
235. do blacks voting for him because of race outnumber whites voting against him b/c of race? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:43 AM Response to Reply #235 |
238. Never claimed that was the case |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #238 |
244. I think Geraldine Ferrara is CORRECT that Obama wouldn't be in the same place as he is if he were a |
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PerfectSage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #244 |
261. Your understimating Obama. He's got more politcal.asshole game than Ferraro ever had. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #261 |
265. I wouldn't want to field a team against him. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #238 |
260. prima facie |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
247. how can anyone defend that racist |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #247 |
253. Another Personal Attack |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:05 AM Response to Reply #253 |
266. you're a troll for defending racism |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:42 AM Response to Reply #266 |
279. Social facts--the demographics are not racial. Get real. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #253 |
294. "Obama Zealot" |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:23 AM Response to Reply #247 |
272. Race is a factor in this primary---why deny it? Its there for objective people to discuss. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:28 AM Response to Reply #272 |
273. and which side has made the biggest issue out of it |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:38 AM Response to Reply #273 |
277. Open you eys and bee---BO has racialized this campaign. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 03:16 AM Response to Reply #277 |
284. he has? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 03:31 AM Response to Reply #284 |
286. too bad you don't have star--then you could search DU---lots of post on this fact. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #286 |
301. since you have one |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
271. It's easy to justify words after the fact |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:56 AM Response to Reply #271 |
283. her problem was the timing. BO had racialized this primary and to discuss |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
275. "Why does Obama dispute it? Why isn't Ferraro allowed to acknowledge it?" |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #275 |
288. Good Point....n/t |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 02:50 AM Response to Original message |
281. "BO nomination would immediately erase 400 years of while guilt"--so says |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
287. Can any of you Clinton zealots accept that the following fact is irrelevant? |
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jeffrey_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
289. 13% of the population is substantial? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
292. It certainly explains how he won Iowa and came within |
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Medusa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
298. So what are trying to say? Black people and their votes don't matter? |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
303. OOPS! Looks Like The Data Proves Me CORRECT! |
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not_too_L8 (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
304. I can deny any advantage ... |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
308. sure. i deny them nt |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
312. Gimme a break. |
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