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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:55 PM
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How are we feeling now, fellow Obama supporters?
I've been away for a while and feeling kind of anxious about the whole Obama-Reverend Wright dust up. I see he has addressed it with a press release and a few television interviews. Before I dive into the substance of those, I just wanted to get a rough sense from my fellow Obama supporters here on DU. What's up out there? We cool?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:56 PM
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1. very very down...sick...frustrated...and insecure...like we've all been duped
:evilgrin:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:57 PM
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5. LOL! Good'un snake.
We can always count on you for a tasty snark.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:58 PM
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7. sorry, couldn't resist, jd
:evilgrin:

:hi:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:59 PM
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12. Hey, no problem-o.
:hi: and :toast:
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:04 PM
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26. I feel so sorry for you. After all, you were one of Obama's biggest supporters.
:sarcasm:
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:34 AM
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121. lol..!
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:26 AM
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124. You are going to have an awful adjustment period.
You might consider distancing yourself a bit from your barricade/to-the-mattresses posturing here. How are you going to deal with Obama as our official nominee?
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:57 PM
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2. I think it will kill the Muslin stories.
And the country is used to religious speakers going over the edge.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:57 PM
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3. Anxious as well.
If this fizzles out by the end of the weekend I'll feel much better. Let's see the toll it takes on the nat'l polls. I don't put much stock in them for who will win the primary, but they are a good guage of public sentiment.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:04 PM
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27. snubgate lasted longer than this will.
there's something to say about immunization against this kind of crap - the Hillary camp has to ratchet it up a few notches for only a shorter time span attention as people are starting to really 'get' whats going on.

Pathetic losers play patheticly.

Obama is a remarkable man, you just can't erase that with dirty circus tricks.

OTOH, Hillary is looking more like an unremarkable sore loser every day.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:13 PM
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46. let's not forget there's a debate scheduled for PA...
Hillary will most certainly try to recapture her "Farrakhan" moment. So Obama will once again have to "reject and renounce" Rev. Wright. But in context, it seems that Hagee's endorsement of McCain seems to have lost its appeal, but then again McCain already the nomination.

We'll just have to see what the next few polls have to say, that will be a big indicator, and if SD's begin to move away, we'll know that the release of this story has served its purpose. What I want to know is how did the audio make its way into the media in the first place?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:42 PM
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78. Which is worse? Sore loser or sore winner?
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 09:43 PM by JoFerret
(This is not about Hillary)

In the end it is not about either Hillary of Obama but about victory in November.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:42 PM
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105. I have to ask why Hillary is doing McCain's work for him.
she obviously thinks McCain would be a better President than Obama. actually said that.

how's that shake out for you if you are a democrat?
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:25 PM
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66. It looks like it took Gerry's racial coments off front page...and I
think I heard that she has a place on the faux news...
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:57 PM
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4. Of course we cool it's March.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:58 PM
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6. i love pastorgate.. i hope it goes on forever. and im glad to have come to know rev. wright
ty =)
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:44 PM
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79. You can keep him then.
.
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ristruck Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:59 PM
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8. Very concerned and full of questions
1. How did he not know how totally out of line this guy's views are?
2. If he did know why did he not go to another church?
3. How does this match with his appeal for unity?
4. Is Obama for real? Are we missing something?


I am still in the game. But I want to not hear the answers, I want to UNDERSTAND the answers to these questions.

Sorry...You asked.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:01 PM
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21. Wow. You have some pretty heavy questions there right next to that Obama avatary.
n/t
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ristruck Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:05 PM
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29. That is true
I have been VERY enthusiastic. I want to believe. I am just concerned. Country first/then party/then the candidate. Can you help me understand the answers to these questions?
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:23 PM
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yeah makes you wonder....new too...
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:29 PM
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67. The only game you are in is making trouble...
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:45 PM
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81. Here is your free DU wooden spoon
McCain - looking better and better right?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:49 PM
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83. hmmmmmmm
1) They are nothttp://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5085214
2) They had the best cookies in the coffee hour after the sermon
3) He is only appealing to the unity of rational people
4) He is actually from the planet Zycon

We all know what your game is - better go get another id
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:58 PM
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84. Dear concerned
1. I watched some of the videos and have to say, altho I never expressed the ideas with that much public passion, I agreed with Wright. :shrug:

2. Switch churches? These were some cherry-picked sound bytes from 30 years of sermons. You ever hear anything from your pastor you didn't like? How many pro-choice Catholics do you think there are?

3. Since Obama is Obama and Wright is Wright -- why do they have to match? As Obama said tonite, the anger of African Americans of Wright's generation brought civl rights to America, which has helped those in Obama's generation to accomplish what they have in this day and age. He framed it perfectly -- they are of two different generations.

4. Is Obama for real? Is your concern real?
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:15 AM
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116. Answers
1. He isn't totally out of line
2. Because he isn't totally out of line
3. Unity begins with telling the truth
4. You betcha. Nope.
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pathansen Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:18 AM
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118. I agree. And why does he still support this pastor and only now rejects his statements
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 05:19 AM by pathansen
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:59 PM
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9. It's uncomfortable but it's better we're doing this now than in October
I think it will defuse the Muslim stories, and frankly Hillary's baggage is WAY worse.

Obama might be winged a bit, but I think we can recover.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:17 PM
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50. Fair or not Obama has this thing where people who don't know him like him. They will not hold it
against him
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:08 AM
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113. Exactly, America is used to swiftboating by now.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 05:09 AM by cooolandrew
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:13 AM
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125. If Kerry were likeable none of the Swift Boat charges would have stuck
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 09:14 AM by rosebud57
And if Gore had any sense at all he would not have been sighing every time dumbya said something in the debate
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:59 PM
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10. We're cool.
It's going to take a few days for some to realize that this non-story hasn't changed Hillary's position in the race - but they'll come around to it, sooner or later.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:31 PM
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68. I like you...
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:59 PM
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11. I always get your name mixed up with J****n_dem...
and I thought you were being sarcastic.

It's all good.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:00 PM
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13. I'm feeling that this too will pass
McCain has two preacher nutcakes supporting him that make Jeremiah Wright look like Ronald MacDonald. Even Alan Colmes and Bob Beckel were fired up in defense of Barack.

He's bruised a little by this, but attitudes will also harden on his behalf.

Also, there are five-and-a-half weeks until the next election. People will move on.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:32 PM
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69. You don't see the media harping on mc cain rabid preachers...
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:00 PM
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14. not a big deal
especially since there are no primaries in the near future. there is a new story like this every day.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:00 PM
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15. Relieved actually.
Because if he drops out, then I'm done.
And I won't have to suffer the heartbreak of 2004.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:36 PM
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74. Ditto
I'll feel the same if Hillary drops out...just like I did when Clark dropped out. It was heartbreaking...but but easier on my heart in the long run.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:00 PM
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16. The "scandal" is over, Obama put it to bed tonight.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:09 PM
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36. Ha, you wish! This thing has as many legs as a centipede.
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 09:10 PM by juajen
NT
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:11 PM
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39. It never even got going Jen. Understand that this was a failed angle
Everyone has a crazy preacher in their past, nobody aside from Rush is going to touch this. It was a gamble by Hillary that didn't pay off.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:23 PM
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62. Only for those who never like Obama in the first place will this have legs.
His true supporters know him for the decent man that he is.
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Gol Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:23 PM
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63. I disagree... n/t
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:36 PM
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75. You really are a sweet person....NOT...
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:48 PM
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82. Until October is the most optimistic estimate
.
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:00 PM
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17. Tempest. Teacup. n/t
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:01 PM
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20. Seconded.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:00 PM
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18. pissed at fellow O. supporters f/not demanding Hillary answer for her membership in "The Fellowship"
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 09:05 PM by cryingshame
headed by Doug Coe.

Why the fuck aren't Obama supporters posting ad naseum about that?

It's not just the leadership of Doug Coe.

It's the members and the mission.

This is about Theocracy and Dominionists.

This goes WAY further than Obama's pastor.

And like lemmings, Obama supporters keep kicking and reacting to the Wright nonsense.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:03 PM
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23. You must have missed all the posts earlier.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:05 PM
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28. I found ONE thread and had to kick it out of oblivion. Why just ONE thread? Why no concerted effort
to get this on Olbermann?
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:24 PM
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65. Don't worry. Hillary's turn is coming.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:04 PM
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25. I have opinions about it, but...
frankly I'm not into that sort of 'me too' hit politics. As with some previous issues, I think what you'll see is a pattern of the media frothing over an Obama issue (as they have been today) and then after they come down from their orgasmic high next week they'll start browsing through their files on the other candidates and look at their connections - expect a lot of 'what have we learned from the way we covered this issue' next week.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:08 PM
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33. the Fellowship thing is about THEOCRACY. It's not just some politically incorrect pastor.
And since the power structure and GOP are mainly the membership, it's not likely the Media will WANT to pursue this.

The only way this will become public knowledge is if it's pushed by a concerted effort.

Again, this isn't "me too" hit politics.

Hillary Clinton is part of a group of people who are not interested in democracy.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:18 PM
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51. you're right
Wright is just normal stuff, a lot of preacher's say this kind of stuff. He went overboard sure, but it's not the end of the world.

And pun intended, these guys that McCain hangs around, actually want the end of the world don't they?

Armageddon, Jesus returning, all that good stuff.

So cliff notes version, Wright said some very stupid things, the McCain preacher's want me to die.

In context, what Wright says isn't all that bad.
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Buck Laser Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:07 PM
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30. I'm not.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:10 PM
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37. Exactly.
Members of the Fellowship, such as the notorious Chuck Colsen, make Rev. Wright look like the consumate angel. Pleeeez ... for the link on Hillary and The Fellowship ... http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:19 PM
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55. It's way scarier than a pastor's raw rhetoric. It's the Theocratic Mission, Membership & Leadership
The Fellowship has a MISSION which is extreme.

Obama's church does good work, it's members are mainstream.

What Hillary is participating in is extreme. It's a theocratic group which is anti-democratic. They are working to undermine our Constitution.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:22 PM
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61. Very well-put, Cryingshame (n/t).
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:21 AM
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119. Does it have a website? Does it have a preacher that yells about "rich, white people" being evil?
Does it have a preacher that says, "God Damn America"? Is that preacher involved in Hill's campaign? Is the preacher a "role model," to use Obama's words? Do tell.

Not meaning to be toooo sarcastic, but I think some Obama supporters are missing part of the story. It's not JUST the speech by Wright. It's everything I stated above, and more. That's what I'm concerned about.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:40 PM
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77. Talk about some elitist batshit religion
Huge article in Mother Jones about it. But I really don't vote for a person's religion, it is a non-starter. This country has freedom of religion. I sure wish it's political candidates and their proxies would respect it.
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Georgie_92 Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:01 PM
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19. I feel good after hearing Obama 's reply on Hannity.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:01 PM
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22. Cool
:)
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:04 PM
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Just hope he can back up his statement that he never heard anything
Hopefully he never was in the congregation when the pastor went radical,
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:44 PM
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80. This is the one that's been on my mind.
This is one of these little things that can blow up and blow up fast. I liked the CNBC interview, the FOX interview got a little dicey, and the first part of CNN's wasn't to my liking. He cleaned up in the second half however. He's ran a great campaign so I'm waiting to see how this works out.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:06 AM
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122. Hopefully Senator Obama can back it up. I'd hate to see this devolve into a gotchafest


Tim Russert: "Senator Obama, according to the statement provided by your staff you attended church on February 12, 2000. Did you agree with Pastor Wright's statement that (insert outrageous soundbite) and if you disagreed why did you not leave the church at that time."

Barack Obama: "Well, gee, Tim, I don't remember hearing him say that. I wasn't feeling to well that day and had to make a couple of trips to the men's room."

Tim Russert: So you were in the mens room for most of the sermon?

Barack Obma: Yup.

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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:04 PM
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24. Here is how I see it:
It effectively puts to rest any Muslim issue.
It is good that it is happening/breaking 5 weeks before PA and 7 months before the general (as opposed to the Swiftboat Kerry shit in August of 04).
Obama's vigorous handling of the issue tonight by going on all the news networks helped a lot more than any statement could have.

I particularly liked his explanation of Wright on Olbermann (I saw the KO and Hannity/Colmes interviews). He talked about how Wright was an ex-marine who has been preaching for 30 years and is well known around the country, and he said that he grew up in the 60s, a very challenging time for African Americans, and there is still a lot of anger there. Obama then said that he himself was a child of a different generation, one with different feelings and perspectives on certain issues. If you only watch one interview, watch the KO one.

The Hannity and Colmes one was kind of pathetic in terms of how the questions were asked.

Overall, I'd say this is a minor setback. The big advantage is the TIMING...even if this has some legs, it won't be enough to carry it far because of the time it broke.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:17 PM
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49. and few if any are going to switch sides or parties
or anything else. Hannity and Rushie are going to vomit this incessantly, Hillary has managed to not get caught up in this, and most people aren't stuck to political shows as badly as we all are ANYway.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:08 PM
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31. I love Obama more today than yesterday...I do wish he was atheist though..n/t
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:08 PM
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32. He didn't know 'this kind of preaching was taking place' until he started to run for POTUS
I don't believe it, that is campaign rhetoric
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:08 PM
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34. I'm fired Up and ready to go
I thought that Sen. Obama asked the questions honestly.

I was proud of him.

Have you noticed that he doesn't sling dirt and he remains professional?

1. We now know he is a Christian.
2. He did not throw the person that helped him to put God in his life under the bus.

3. He described him like an Uncle ~ I have an uncle that I adore and he doesn't always act the way that the family believes he should but he is family and we love him.

4. McCain and all the rest of them, including GW have all their "come to Jesus" moments and they have had the support of Falwell and Co.

5. I'm African American and grew up in the Black church. We like to hear rousing sermons from our Preachers.

I'm fired up and more ready than ever to say... GObama :bounce:
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:09 PM
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35. Rod Parsley......need I say more?
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tamzins Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:10 PM
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38. OBAMA SUPPORTERS HANG TIGHT
Do not worry about Obama, he is protected by the Light. The forces of Darkness are trying to bring him down, but they will not succeed. The Clinton campaign is grasping at straws. It's just a way of deflecting investigations about their own wrongdoings(which are far more serious)away from them, but just wait until the Clinton can of worms is opened. Their supporters will be running for the hills. Hillary knows she's already lost the nomination, so she has nothing more to lose now. This is her last stand, like the Alamo, going down for the third time, so she wants to take everybody with her.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:23 PM
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64. Stop blaming Hillary for this!
This is Obama's problem, and only he can answer for this! Frankly, I don't think he can defend the indefensable!
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mohc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:11 PM
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40. I'm not sweating it
If this does any long term damage, which I am not convinced it will, there is no better time for it to come out than now. If this would have come out earlier, it could have held Obama back before he got any momentum. If it came out after the nomination was completely settled, it could either serve to de-legitimize his nomination or play a bigger role in the general election. This is the longest gap between contests for the entire race, and this story broke basically right after the Mississippi primary was settled. This leaves the most time possible for the story to settle before another vote takes place. Short of a wholesale rejection of Obama at the polls in the remaining states, his nomination will be unquestionable if he maintains his lead now. We will have to wait and see how this story plays out, but I believe Obama is going to handle this as well as he has handled everything else. This is a manufactured story, its not about what happened so much as how people perceive what happened. As with anything like this, there is potential that this could be very damaging for Obama. All that matters now is how Obama handles it and how people react to his handling of it. I am not particularly worried by Obama's opponents saying anything about this issue, they have no reason to be honest about it.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:11 PM
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41. I have a little bit of a headache, but I think it's just allergies.
Thanks for asking!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:11 PM
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42. Not sure.
Looks like a general election fight. I know our country is in deep crap. I think rep. democracy is still way off if it returns at all.
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:12 PM
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43. Doing well here thanks n/t
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:12 PM
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44. I knew this was coming. I've known about Wright for months.
He was bound to blow up at some point.

My thoughts are:

1. It blew up a little bigger than I expected. And he will probably lose PA because of it.

However,
1. It happened at the right time.
2. He got out in front of it in time.
3. It's not going to stop him from being the nominee.
4. You are going to see some really pissed off black people in the wake of this. There are a lot of Reverand Wrights out there, and black churches - being the only institution fully controlled by black people - are not going to take this intrusion kindly.
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:12 PM
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45. Barak has Big Ones to go into the lions den
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 09:13 PM by Tribetime
give him alot of credit.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:15 PM
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47. I'm good, alittle concerned but I'm feeling good about Barack today.
He handled himself well and know that 527's are coming his way. At least he is prepared.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:17 PM
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48. Relieved and glad the next primary isn't 'til 4/22. I think he handled himself well and will
CONTINUE to do so when asked about it. I think he explained that the Rev. came from the "old school struggle" and HE'S from the NEW school, where he benefitted from the struggles of those before him. And at least I think there won't be any more talk about him being a "secret Muslim."
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:19 PM
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52. Baby, I spent all day registering voters in high schools and talking...
...to folks in my community about the change that is coming. Change that is coming because of US, with the help of Barack.

I spoke to black folks, white folks, latino folks. Old, young. Poor, rich...well, maybe not rich.

I'm immune to this shit. ;)
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:19 PM
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53. I feel great.
There is no doubt that Obama loves his country. He should not be judged based on Pastor fire and brimstone Wright's words.

If this is not the case, and the people decide he shouldn't be the nominee based on the above, then America doesn't deserve Obama in the first place. It would be America's loss, and the people will get exactly what they deserve with McCain or Hillary.

The next president selected to do this thankless job has his/her work cut out for him.

Obama is a very decent man, and I will always remain proud and true to him.


Peace:thumbsup:
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:43 PM
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106. Hear, hear!
I agree. It makes me angry that these people (whether they be neocons, corpmedia shills, blind Hillary supporters, or whatever) would try to unfairly take down a good, decent, honest man in such a way as to play to all the ugliest aspects of (their)human nature. All I have seen of Sen. Obama shows me that he is indeed a true and decent man, and it sickens me to see people attacking him in such an unfair way. I too, "will always remain proud and true to him."
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:03 AM
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111. That is very comforting. I'm way past angry, to the point of what will be will be.
There are some hateful, disgusting folk in this world and I refuse to let them get me down because then they will win.



Peace:thumbsup:
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:19 PM
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54. Quite frankly I am angry
This has only solidified my support for Barack Obama. This is ridiculous and CLEARLY Barack Obama is being held to a different standard than everyone else in the race. It is unfair. I support Barack Obama and always will. The man is principled, he is honest, and he is thoughtful. He is a decent man. He is trying to pull this country KICKING AND SCREAMING to be the best it can be. There is always resistance to that. They are falsely painting him as someone he is not. They have nothing on HIM as a PERSON, so they paint him as someone he is not due to his associations. They're not talking about what HE said or did, they are talking about what someone else SAID and DID.

THIS IS MANIA!
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:26 AM
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120. The one who kicked and screamed was Wright, when he screamed "God Damn America,"...
practically in the same sentence that he said, Oh by the way vote for my friend Obama.

Obama is running for President...the highest office in America. Wright is his self-reported "role model," and is an advisor in his campaign, as well as a 20-year close friend.

If McCain's personal role model went on TV and yelled, "GOD DAMN AMERICA," or Hillary's did, their campaign would pretty much be over. Maybe not if they were running for City Council. But President? Those candidates are held to a pretty high standard. Obama should've known better.

Obama's calling card is good judgment. Or at least it was.
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:20 PM
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56. Disgusted, depressed by the reaction to this ridiculous non-story
Naively wishing that my country could finally move beyond race.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:20 PM
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57. He was outstanding tonight. I am more impressed with him all the time.
And I am less and less impressed by the day by the Clinton campaign.
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:21 PM
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58. Obama hit the AC/360 interview outta the park.
:applause:
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:21 PM
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59. I am alright because of these facts:
1. I have a funny feeling that Wright was not always like this and this was a recent trend.

2. Barack has done all that he can to say he is not like the pastor and his actions say so.

3. I realize that we may have just lost one of the best candidates ever because of the blatant hypocrisy in America. How McCain escapes his "spiritual guide" (which is what he said) Ron Parsley ties and Barack is being murdered has shown me a lot. Which is why I am heading straight for "Independent" zone.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:05 PM
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86. "Wright was not always like this"...
Other way around.

Wright comes from the generation of white people taking firehoses to black people. A generation of white people lynching black people for the crime of voting. A generation of black people being beaten for where they sat on a freaking *bus*. A generation where the mere thought of black people marrying white people was so scary that the white people actually made it illegal.

Wright is fire and brimstone, but it's fire and brimstone from people who earned their rightous anger, and built Liberation Theology, the rough way.

Obama comes from a generation who didn't have to fight that way, and is in a lifetime that his turned a historic corner.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:21 PM
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60. Feelin' mighty fine, just fine.
:woohoo:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:34 PM
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70. Yeah, I'm cool.
This will blow over.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:34 PM
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71. It isn't as though no one else in the race has controversial advocates.
This will have all blown over my Monday.

:headbang:
rocknation
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:35 PM
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72. Well, I guess I won't be voting for Rev. Wright.
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 09:45 PM by eilen
But I still want to vote for Barak Obama. Let me know when the red herrings are thrown back into the sea.
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onefreespiritedchick Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:36 PM
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73. Anxious, depressed...waiting for the firestorm to pass
Nevertheless, this does not lessen my support in any form or fashion.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:38 PM
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76. This confirms that the GOP don't want Barack as our Nominee.....
Cause if they put this out, they would have waited till the GE, if they felt this could do him real substantial harm. So they show again that they want Hillary. That puts me in Barack's corner that much more.

And Hillary supporters must know that Black people in this country are taking note....and yes, there's a whole lot of Black churches who's pastors that speak something like Wright at times, even if it feels foreign and radical to some White Folks. The majority of Black voting folks go to church, were raised in the church, and are involved politically because of the church. That's why Black folks are so real. That's why they didn't fall for that Iraq war bullshit spewed by the politicians and media et al. Cause you can't really hoodwink Black folks....which is why they hate George Bush with a passion; why they stopped voting for Hillary, and why, many will stay home in drove if Barack is remotely even perceived as having been taken down based on what his pastor said.

I think that Barack is going to be ok if White people are willing to confront their own issues, and reconcile why that pastor might have been saying some of what he was saying.

Many in the Media are demonizing Wright and taking it for granted that there was no truth in what he said, although there was. Wright is a pacifist, and sees violence and war for what it is, and comes from a different generation then does Barack....a generation that if a Black man looked at a Black Woman, he might find himself hanging from a tree.

America has two faces. The question is, which face will it show when it counts?

Far as I'm concerned, Obama is exactly the best candidate we could have ran against both Clinton and McCain.

Plus McCain's got his own problems on this issue....maybe not quite as acute, but enough that he can't really be a hypocrite on this. And if the 527s start in on this, I'm sure that there will be 527s dealing with the Manchurian Candidate.

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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:00 PM
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85. I'm in love with her and I feel fine.
This is nothing, kids, nothing.

Let everyone have a little caniption.

David
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:05 PM
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87. fired up!
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:13 PM
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91. "Just Bring it Jabroni!"
:thumbsup:
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:08 PM
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88. Feeling excellent now.
If you shoot at the big dog, you better kill him. Weell, Barack has not only survived, but he's now more innoculated than ever. Plus, I've been able to ferret out a few more trolls and put them on ignore.

And, the beauty is we have time and we have "little tests" coming up (the Iowa second round of conventions, e.g.) with which we can gauge where things stand.

I loved his collected, cool stand to the right wing smear machine.
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Not the Only One Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:10 PM
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89. People who would care were never supporting him to begin with.
Not concerned.

Besides, Obama should win and that's who I will be supporting. I don't care if the rest of America are idiots.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:14 PM
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92. And another thing
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 10:15 PM by thevoiceofreason
Now I have an instant talking point whenever someone brings up the electibility question: He went into the lion's den, faced the biggest jerk they could muster, and stared him down, all with quiet, self-assured confidence. I trust him to sit accross from N. Korea,iran and the like and cooly listen then tell them to fix their wicked ways -- cooly, calmly and collectedly.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:11 PM
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90. call me a pod person, still in Obama's camp!!
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:17 PM
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93. America has a short attention span. Just keep an eye on the polls. (nt)
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:19 PM
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94. Time will tell
lets see if this hurts him in the polls and what kind of legs it has. A week from now, it might seem much ado about nothing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:22 PM
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95. I'm nearly ready to join the cult.
I want to see how he handles this. My bet is, he'll do just fine.

This is one helluva gifted person, no matter that I don't agree with his centrism.

Your candidate will be fine. He's a winner.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:32 PM
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99. That means a lot coming from you, sfexpat2000.
Seriously. :thumbsup:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:34 PM
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100. I'm nothing special but he definitely is.
Congratulations on making such a very fine choice. :)
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:25 PM
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96. fired up, ready to go, tv interview on Monday in Pennsylvania
a local tv station found my contributions to Obama and is going to interview me to ask why a 'normal' person who is in college and
working part time would part with $100 for Obama. Everybody here wish me well so I don't blow it for Obama!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:25 PM
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97. Obama will be the nominee and McCain can't touch it without getting his ass blasted
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 10:27 PM by zulchzulu
Obama is going to be the nominee after all this is said and done. If McCain wants to bring up Obama's former pastor as an issue, all we have to do is play a little Hagee hate speech or two that would alienate his Catholic base, alienate the Jewish vote, take whatever Black vote there was and alienate the Woman's vote. It also evaporates the lie that Obama is a Muslim since his former pastor is Christian.

It's a big piece of cheese for McCain to eat if he wants. The trap will snap his neck pronto. You can bet the Obama team has the target line placed and ready when McCain wants to bite.

Hillary can do all she wants to trash Obama, but it is mathematically nearly impossible that she will be the nominee. It's just sad seeing her slowly deflate... it's hardly worth commenting on her at this point. McCain is the target now.

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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:29 PM
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98. Tried to warn ya months back that obama would boil it down to
race, and he has. Told ya months back obama would play the race card and he has and did on several occasions and on one he blamed Hillary.....Maybe this is where michelle obama has learned her contempt for america as well from this preacher.

Maybe I should have asked this question before preachergate broke: Barack, can I ask a question? Are you going to heal America the way you healed the Democratic party?
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:36 PM
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101. Are you just old? Or just bitter? Or just bitter and old?
Hell, I even say positive things about Hillary from time to time.

Barack has come most of the way through this faux test and has fared quite well. You all have tempered his steel. Now he will be even harder to beat.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:38 PM
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102. I feel very good after watching all three interviews tonight.
I can't imagine a better, sharper, less alienating (on all accounts) response by Senator Obama. I was anxious before, but he did a fantastic job--he addressed the issue thoroughly and believably.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:41 PM
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103. I'm happy and starting to enjoy this race again.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:41 PM
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104. TOTALLY Cool
B-) and LOVING Obama! :bounce:
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:44 PM
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107. separation of church and state
This never bothered me

Plus most of that the man said was 100% correct
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:49 PM
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108. I'm feeling really good.
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 10:50 PM by nsd
We've known for a long time that the Wright connection was likely to be used against Obama. And before tonight, I've been worried about how he would handle it. I feared his response would be too weak.

But tonight, Obama put those fears to rest. He handled this thing just right, in my opinion. He stayed calm and focused, repudiated Wright's statements using strong and unambiguous language, reiterated his own message of hope and unity, and moved quickly to put down the fire. He was great.

I realize that the Republicans are still going to try to use this stuff against us, but now I say: bring it on. For too long Democrats have acted like a defensive crouch is the only possible posture we can assume. The right-wing hate machine rains down attacks on us and we try merely to survive. Enough of that. Let's show some courage. Let's show some faith. Just because Limbaugh and Hannity and the rest of the assholes are going to attack on this (and, if not this, they'll just find something else) doesn't mean that the sky is falling and we have to give in or start cowering.

No, it means we have to push back. Tonight Obama pushed back and did it really well. I have renewed confidence in his and his team's political skills. So, even though this has been a tough week, I'm ending it feeling good.

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pettypace Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:55 PM
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109. The idiot pastor
How the fuck does Barack get himself associated with clowns like this man - literally makes me cringe watching the videos of his sermons.

Jesus we're so close but Barack and Michelle are making some really stupid mistakes in the PR department.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:59 PM
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110. delete.
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 11:00 PM by sfexpat2000
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:04 AM
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112. Fired up and ignoring MSM smear."let's go change the world" it needs it.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:14 AM
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114. Feelin' fine.
:hi:
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chyjo Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:14 AM
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115. Honestly I was expecting it sooner
and I am glad it happened so far away from the next context. I'll admit that the video and sound-bites were more extreme than I thought they would be. In any event I would be worried if PA was next week, but it isn't. I don't find Wright to be that problematic. At least not so much as the Clinton campaigns acknowledgment that registering new voters is not a component of their campaign in the Philadelphia inquirer yesterday.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:16 AM
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117. I'm mulling it over. I liked his response a lot. But I need more time.
I'm not sure I believe that Obama wasn't aware of Wright's views.

But I'm mulling it over and need a bit more time for the dust to settle.
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:38 AM
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123. Obama is a good man.
And for that I feel good.


Hillary's cesspool of a campaign has turned democrats into something worse then any republican I personally know. And for that I feel sad for them.

Bitterness will only increase with their impending loss to a clean well run campaign of a good man. They will be worse the closer the end comes. And for that I feel pity.
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