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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:38 PM
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Kerry is going to be the best American President since FDR.
Who's with me on that?
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:39 PM
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1. I'm voting for Kerry
But thats a stretch for any imagination!
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:40 PM
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2. Will you buy me a beer in 2012...
...if you end up having to admit you were wrong?
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:41 PM
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Sure
Thats a safe bet!
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:41 PM
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6. Don't be so sure.
I'm already thirsty.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:43 PM
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9. Don't get me wrong
I think Kerry will be a good President, but IMO he won't be a FDR. I don't see another FDR in my lifetime. Sorry.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:45 PM
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11. No, I said SINCE FDR.
I would never be so bold as to suggest surpassing the author of the New Deal.

But the Real Deal will be a breath of fresh air that this country desperately needs.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:47 PM
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12. Sorry I misread your post
Also sorry I forgot to say welcome to DU.

:hi:
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:48 PM
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14. Thanks!
I've been around a long time, actually. I mainly lurk. It can get rough in here.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:49 PM
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Just wear your flame retardant
PJ'S
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:40 PM
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3. I agree but we have to get him elected first.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:41 PM
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4. I'm working on it.
Hope you are, too!
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:41 PM
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7. He'll be better than Clinton at least.
That will be an improvement.

:)
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:41 PM
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5. I totally agree.
The more I see and hear of him, the more impressed I become.
Goooooo Kerry!!!!! :kick:
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:43 PM
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8. Absolutely!
The hardest part of his job will be...well, everything. He'll have to fix all the problems this horrific administration has brought into effect, while, at the same time, fighting all the attacks from the demonic right-wing fascicritics.

But, all considered, he will do a great job. He is the man for it.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:44 PM
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10. If we could get back the Senate...
...it would sure help. The House is hopeless.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:11 PM
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24. The House wouldn't be hopeless if more than 1/2 of Americans would VOTE
But unfortunately that's the case, so it does look somewhat hopeless.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:22 PM
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26. We'll get it back eventually...
...but probably not this cycle.

We all complain about the spineless Democrats, but they'd have a lot more spine if they had more legislative support. Being in the minority is not easy...we need to get them some reinforcements.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:47 PM
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13. If he can give a clear message and counteract this nonsense about...
Bushie being "strong on defense" then, yes, he will win and be a great president.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:51 PM
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16. Patience...
...this is a chess game.

Bushco is playing checkers. Granted, it's no-holds barred, full contact, body slam checkers, but it's still checkers.

I think Rove is an overrated sleazeball.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:52 PM
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17. Having Clark for VP will help tremendously, imo.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:56 PM
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20. Good choice.
Although I LOVE Clark's intellect and his resume, I think Edwards has superior political skills.

Either one would be good for the job, though. I'm more focused on who most improves the ticket.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:49 PM
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15. He certainly has the potential to upstage Clinton & Carter...
...and probably LBJ- but beating out FDR, Truman and the Kennedy boys will be a tough one...
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:53 PM
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18. Didn't say he'd beat FDR.
And, you're right, Truman and Kennedy are close calls.

But I expect Kerry to be around for two terms and to make some much needed changes. Kennedy never got a chance for his full potential to be realized.

This is Kerry's moment.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:49 PM
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46. It's Kerry's moment in more ways than one...
...it's ALL on him- sure, we all have to help, but Kerry has to shine on his own- I'm confident about the prospects...
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ImperialistLackey Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:53 PM
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19. Especially if John Edwards is his VP
John Edwards will make the best VP for Kerry's 2004 Presidency.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:59 PM
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21. Agree.
He adds some youth, vigor and charm that Kerry is lacking.

I get why a lot of people don't like Kerry...he can be a little stuffy, but he is one smart MF.

And he knows how to throw a punch (and WHEN to throw a punch).
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:13 PM
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28. Great name "ImperialistLackey".
Are you a "running-dog lackey" or just a regular lackey?

Welcome to DU!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 08:45 AM
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36. Hi ImperialistLackey!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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bringiton Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:00 PM
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22. After Shrub, Anyone will seem like the best Prez since FDR
I will say this, I've had a hard time warming up to
Kerry. I liked his "bring it on" quote, but he seems to
have backed off a bit. He is politically smart.
I'm a Clark man. Let's get Kerry elected first.
I think I will send some $$ to the Kerry campaign tonight.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:16 PM
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25. Kerry's hard to warm up to.
But he is INCREDIBLY smart and a singularly savvy campaigner.

He'll hit Bush where it hurts the most and he'll do it at just the right time.

Thanks for sending the donation. Every dollar helps uproot the Shrub.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:01 PM
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23. I CONCUR....WHOLEHEARTEDLY AND EXCITEDLY!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:02 PM
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27. cough*cough*cough*cough*cough
GAG! I don't think so!
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:38 PM
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29. These DLC cheerleader threads are really over the top.
"best President since FDR"?

"My SOUL wants Kerry"?

What's next? "Kerry is the Second Coming of Christ"??

Spare me :eyes:

If you think this kind of crap is going to motivate people into supporting this guy, you are sadly mistaken.

If Kerry wants the votes, what he needs to do is really very simple:

Give people a goddamn reason to VOTE FOR HIM.

And "he's not Bush" ain't gonna cut it. Especially when his foreign policy IS Bush. Or might as well be.

Why isn't Kerry out there nailing these neocon shitbags instead of siding with them? That's what a fucking DEMOCRAT should be doing :grr:
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:26 AM
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33. Thanks for your input
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:22 PM
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38. Yes, the Dean threads were over the top
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:33 PM
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41. Poor examples, Sangh*
The first three threads weren't started by Dean supporters, and the last one asked a legitimate question. Which frankly should be asked again....

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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:36 PM
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42. Keep telling yourself, that
Maybe someday, you'll believe it
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:51 PM
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30. Uh, no.
Sorry but I don't see Kerry being the best president since FDR. Why? Because you're forgetting ONE president that probably did more change for this country SINCE FDR. That guy being Johnson. Granted the Vietnam War was a horrible, horrible thing. But how can ANYONE forget what that man did on the domestic front? If it weren't for Vietnam (a war that he didn't even start); LBJ would be in the top 5 of greatest American presidents. Who can forget welfare? Who can forget what he did for civil rights? Or his great society? LBJ did more to advance the social cause than Kerry will do. Why? Because Kerry isn't proposing swift change like FDR and LBJ did. THAT is why he'll be an average president, just like Clinton.

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:07 PM
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31. Interesting
You appear able to cope with Johnson regarding Vietnam. Can you cope with Kerry regarding Iraq?
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:27 AM
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34. Good question, Will.
I'm betting the answer is no.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:23 PM
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39. Some people never learn
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:20 PM
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32. Can I get some of what you're on???
Believe me, I wish Kerry all the best. But unless we get Congress back--Kerry will only be able to provide the veto against republican insanity. Without Congress, we are still in deep shit...but at least Kerry would keep us from drowning.

Now if we could get the Congress back--then Kerry could shoot for greatness. Though comparisons with FDR seem a bit much. Then again... the Supreme Court could use a bit of FDR treatment....
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 08:38 AM
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35. "Kerry IS going to be the best American President since FDR."
I truly believe that.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:48 AM
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37. At best Kerry will be a lackluster Prez but he could lay bombs
Of course this is assuming that Bush doesn't steal the election and leave Kerry looking like a dork.

I think a Prez Kerry will be like Richard Nixon, an intelligent but overly ambitious politican ruled by phobias and disliked by the public in general. Voters in NH preferred Dean's policies but voted for Kerry because they thought him electible, not necessarily the best candidate. And Kerry waited to see what Dean would do first, like with the opting out of FEC funds, before doing it himself. Kerry is a political Koward.

Nixon was also a foreign policy expert, like Kerry claims he is, but remember for all that foreign policy experience, Nixon escalated the Vietnam War. Kerry is planning on doing the same thing in Iraq.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:28 PM
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40. Some people never change
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=393417

It used to be that Kerry was "lackluster" because he couldn't raise money. Now that Kerry is raising money, there's another reason for his being dissed.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:42 PM
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43. Political cowards advocated for gays in the military BEFORE anyone else
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 01:42 PM by blm
bothered to stick up for gays?

Political cowards investigated BCCI, IranContra and CIA drugrunning while being hindered by many in his own party?

Political courage is to be against the death penalty in a revenge thirsty nation.

Your idea of political courage is to hold hearings on dirty song lyrics to make sure to chase Kerry's investigations off the front page.

Your idea of political courage is to be FOR the Biden-Lugar bill and against IWR even though there was no SIGNIFICANT difference that would have prevented Bush's decision to go to war.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:13 PM
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44. I don't know - is there the opportunity?
FDR saw the tail end of the laissez-faire, tiny-government, big-business era. He was elected on the Great Depression and was able to leverage that into the New Deal which altered the government's role in American society. Does Kerry have the opportunity to enact change this fundamental? I'm certain that he will change our foreign policy for the better, but what else? I think Kerry will bring things back to the way they should be and were during the Clinton era, but I don't know else he'll do.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:44 PM
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45. If it were the John Kerry of the 80s, I'd have to agree
...but to me and many others, he seems to have "lost his way" in the quest for the White House and big-money donors.

I sincerely like the man as a person, but I am having more and more difficulty with his foreign policy issues. However, I will still vote for him-- and hold his feet to the fire once he's elected.

I sincerely hope that, once he's elected, Kerry will regain some of the fire and liberal positions he had before 2000. As a unabashed progressive member of the Democratic Party, I and many more of us will keep reminding the next president where his REAL strength lies: with the values that made this party great-- NOT those of the Wall Street money barons.

:toast:
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 08:02 PM
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47. Hey...
I'm all for optimism. :)
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 08:43 PM
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48. It's all about perceiving...
After this current president, anyone who is semi-competent or mediocre would seem like a terrific commander-in-chief in comparison. However, I'm sure John Kerry will be more than just competent. If he reverses the economic mess of the deficit and the military mess that is Iraq then he will have earned the comparison to FDR.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 09:13 PM
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49. kick
:kick:
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