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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:23 AM
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Carlyle Group Re-Embraces the Swastika ?
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 09:25 AM by seventhson
http://www.bartcopnation.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=22951


You just gotta see it.

I have said many times that the Nazis did not lose WWII, they just discarded the logo at the end of 1945.

Well, it looks like the same entities and families who backed Hitler have now re-emmraced the logo. Stealthily and with a slight modern twist, but a Swastika nonetheless.

For Campaign 2004, they have rolled out the Nazi Bush logo once again.

You just have to see it.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:29 AM
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1. Nope - that's too big a stretch... n/t
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:45 AM
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4. the new logo does look a bit like a stretched out swastika...
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:48 AM
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5. What, don't believe your own eyes?
My question would be is there an actual, practical REASON for the design of the chip to look like this? If not, then why wouldn't someone involved in the design see it and go "hmmmm....maybe we ought to try again."
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:21 PM
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29. I suppose the pedestal fan in my office was designed by a nazi, too. n/t
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:41 AM
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2. I see it at BartCop
but it isn't anywhere at the site (that I could find). :wtf:
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walkon Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:45 AM
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3. Design is definitely a swastika
But the rest of it is more than I can explore right now.

It is at the site - click "products" and go from there.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:09 AM
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6. It's engineering.
I'm an engineer, and from first glance it looks like they had to try to increase the length of the little antennae while keeping the total surface area small.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:15 PM
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7. Whatever it is it is clearly the reemergence of that Nazi symbol
in the corporate realm and in the BFEE circuit
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:27 PM
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8. No it isn't.
Because it isn't really a swastika anyways. If they wanted a swastika, they would have really used a swastika. If it didn't mean anything to them to use a swastika, they wouldn't have chosen anything that looks enough like a swastika for people to think it looks like a swastika.

I anticipate the next post might be something about "hey why are you defending them". It's because the right uses this sort of thing to attack the credibility of the left.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:34 PM
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9. Those who have eyes to see will see
The question is whether it was intentional or not.

I think it is - but they will never admit it.

The fact is that it is being used as a symbol when it did not have to be used by those close to Bush.

The fact that the Bushes made their fortune from the Nazis and from Holocaust profits is what makes it so troubling.

The right FABRICATES lies.

The eyes cannot deny that this is a variation of a swastika - otherwise we would not be talking about it.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:35 PM
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10. Gees, kind of a stretch don't you think?
Not to mention the engineering principles require that type of design.
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 01:06 PM
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11. Perhaps a bit of a stretch...
... but what about the other chip design?

check out the Generic Carton Tag design (towards the bottom of the page)

http://www.matrics.com/products/tags.shtml

now, compare that to this:

http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/03/0315.html

sure, it's upside down, but if you look at the enlargement of the tag, you'll see that the number is *also* up... side... down...

huh? ...huh?

:evilgrin:
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 01:30 PM
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12. Jesus - they really do intend to kill us all, don't they?
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 01:32 PM by seventhson
Marks of the beasts.

It is clearly intentional IMHO.

That is just toooo creepy.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 01:46 PM
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14. I think we'd need only half the number of monkeys with typewriters...
...if we could find enough people reading to meet them halfway.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 06:48 PM
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26. THAT is truly scary and I think cements the idea
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 06:49 PM by seventhson
that the Swastika is intentional.

The fact that they show the other one upside down on purpose (perhaps to hide its public meaning) shows consciousness of intent and guilt.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 01:42 PM
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13. the Nazi's loved the occult. they studied it.
i don't know about the BFEE and the occult, but be certain that the people into it are really into it.

swaztika is an old celtic power sign, if i remember correctly.

but what do i know? i believe that everything is magic...

:shrug:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 01:47 PM
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16. Someone once said "yo ho ho it's magic, you know".
I still don't believe it though.
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Nadienne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 01:46 PM
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15. I heard somewhere
that the swastika is an ancient symbol... before the Nazis started using it, it meant "friendship" or something like that...
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 01:56 PM
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17. It's used a lot in Hinduism and Buddhism
You can see swastikas all over some Buddhist temples in Asia I'm told. I believe it is a "good" symbol in that regard, meaning good luck or good fortune or friendship.
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Nadienne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:02 PM
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19. I think that's what I've heard
And a half-hearted google-search turned up this:

"The swastika has been a symbol and ornament since prehistoric times. It is a sacred symbol in several religions and a good luck sign in many cultures throughout the world, including American Indian tribes. For example, it is a symbol of friendship among the Pueblo Indians. The name derives from the Sanskrit word "svastika" which means "conducive to well being."

It is only in modern times that anti-Semites have given the swastika its hateful significance by adopting it as their symbol. Adolf Hitler reversed the symbol and made it the official emblem and national symbol of the Nazi Party and the Third Reich in Germany during the 1930s and '40s."

http://www.glensidefire.com/pages/symbol.htm
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:14 PM
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20. Here's more info...
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:42 PM
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21. reversing a symbol of friendship--they were at the least attempting magic
just like our inverted BushCo operates.
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Nadienne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 04:10 PM
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22. Well... I don't know if I agree...
It wouldn't surprise me if the Nazis had dabbled in magic, and I guess I wouldn't be too surprised if BushCo also dabbled...

But I don't think taking an older symbol and reversing it is evidence of an attempt at magic...
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 05:02 PM
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23. There was a lot of mysticism/occultism around the Nazis
Hitler had a whole separate operation working on various things, like a new religion based on the old Norse theology, and their reputed journeys into Tibet looking for the proto-Aryan ancestor of the Germans.

Those folk were not quite right in many ways.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:58 PM
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28. but their real magic was fear. Scare people and they're putty...
...in your hands.

Which brings us back to Matrics. They profit off of fear, as do the Republicans, and as did the Nazis.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 06:46 PM
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25. that is the definition of occult magic
analogy is everything.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:02 PM
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18. Anybody remember the P2 chips with "Bill Sux" on them?
This was back a while ago, but some enterprising reporter found some circuit paths on a either a P2 or P3 chip that looked suspiciously like "bill sux".

I remember seeing it in one of the weekly news rags, but never thought much of it. I have a feeling this may be one and the same. Turns out the "bill sux" thing was a hoax, too.

Here's the story

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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 06:45 PM
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24. This is no hoax. It is from the company website
Again - the question is whether these Carlyle bastards are intentionally introducing the symbols of death and fascism into their chips as a "joke" or as an intentional endorsemrnt of the meaning of the symbols.

These guys are no dummies and they KNOW what the symbols mean. There is a whole art to it.

But do they INTEND the symbols to represent their fascist meanings?

I would guess that they very well may intend this - as Carlyle is by its very nature the representative of global Naziish corporate fascism and is itself symbolic of death and evil.

Only a monkey would be unable to see that.
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DEMVET-USMC Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:43 PM
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27. RIGHT ON ! The Shrub/Walker Families helped create NAZI Germany ! !
For detals go to < http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm >. ...Oscar
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