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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 12:25 AM
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Kucinich denounces PATRIOT act: 'Fear has covered this country'
http://www.theworldlink.com/articles/2004/04/14/news/news01.txt

'Fear has covered this country'


By Daniel Schreiber, Staff Writer

Just as President George W. Bush spoke to the press on national television Tuesday night about the recent "tough weeks" in Iraq, Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, challenged the Bush administration's war policies in a presentation at the Coos Bay Public Library. Despite the rain, the congressman drew a standing-room-only crowd of more than 150 Bay Area supporters and still more had to be turned away for lack of space.

An excitement permeated the room, Coos Bay having a history of receiving notable presidential hopefuls over the years, including John F. Kennedy in 1959, George McGovern in 1972 and Walter Mondale in 1984. The anticipation confirmed it had been awhile.

Kucinich, one of two remaining candidates of the original 10 in the Democratic primary election, said he was campaigning on the South Coast to influence a change in the direction of the Democratic Party and appeal to Oregon's large independent voter demographic. The crowd consisted mainly of senior citizens, asking questions about health care, pharmaceutical drug market reform and what has been the congressman's primary speaking point, problems with the war in Iraq.

Though small in stature, Kucinich leaned on bulky issues to hold the crowd's attention and maintained complete control of the tone in the town hall meeting-style setting, moving from humorous to gravely serious, sometimes in a matter of only a few words. Coos Bay is a "great place to take my message" and there is "something deeply American about small towns," he said.

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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 01:34 AM
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1. This guy does seem to have lots of what we want
There was a link out, where you could find out how the candidates stacked up to your values.....

If you unclicked everything to start with so all candidates that were originally there and included Nadar, I was surprized when this guy came out on top for matching my values and what I really wanted.

I just hunted the link down again..here it is

http://www.selectsmart.com/PRESIDENT/president.php
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 01:49 AM
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2. Yes, before the primary season started, MANY, many people found Dennis
matched them perfectly.

But, they were "afraid" to vote for him.

Fear permeates the country.

Indeed.

Kanary
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 02:45 AM
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6. Until I took that poll matching the candidate, I never knew dennis
Until I had that link and took the test, I had not realized he matched so many of my values.

I voted for Dean in the Va Primary.

I liked Edwards too but wish he would stick with senate in NC since they don't get too many good Dems at senate level.....

So it is interesting to realize this Dennis is actually a good candidate but without the charisma of some of the others.

As far as voting for third party candidates, I have done it. John Andrews or anderson.... Ross Perot and

I did vote for al gore in 2000, I had read his book, Earth in Balance before he got in the WH and was very touched by his environmental beliefs...it is funny when he was running for VP, I had read he was a born again christian and was very worried he....was one of those right wing types.l......

who knew.... who knew ...it would be Bush....

So I am hesitant to vote for third parties because it seems they can not get enough momentum and win....This Dennis person is growing on me.... but I will vote democratic.......
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 09:15 AM
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9. "This Dennis person is growing on me, but I will vote Democratic"
You're being ...... serious?

????

You're saying in a cryptic way that Dennis is not a Democrat?

Dennis Kucinich is Democratic Congressman from Ohio.

It helps to read something about candidates and be informed before voting.

Kanary
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 09:47 AM
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12. my words got scrambled
Yes, I understand Dennis Kucinich is a democrat from ohio. What I meant when I said I would vote democrat.....was stay with the DNC nominee.

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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 09:22 AM
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10. Dude, welcome to DU but get a clue about Dennis
Edited on Fri Apr-16-04 09:27 AM by goodhue
He oozes charisma. And he is a loyal democrat. Ask yourself why has the media not reported his positions?
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 02:01 AM
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3. certainly some of the coolest people
and are in DK's corner: Alice Walker, Patch Adams, Willy Nelson, Annie DeFranco...
the list is very long.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 09:57 AM
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14. Hi 28erl!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 02:20 AM
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4. when there were 9 candidates, they barely reported him....
wouldn't you think that now that there are only two left he'd garner a bit more press??

Also amazing how many people do agree strongly with Dennis but still chose a lesser candidate?? I'd say the repug machine has done well with disseminating all the fear they have so Dems run scurrying to find someone THEY think can beat bush*...and on what? Kucinich beats Kerry hands down on every damn issue....yet the dems have settled yet again for a man who reuses to admit he even IS a liberal....and then wonder why Nader holds such a fascination.

I give mega credit to Dennis for sticking with the dems and attempting to unite the dem party when all the party does is stick it to Dennis. Shame on them for not accepting and supporting the best man for the job and going with the lesser all because of fear!

Peace & hope
DR
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 02:33 AM
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5. Kerry was my first choice
i had liked him for a long time.and i'm a liberal. Gore was the first candidate i was old enough to vote for president. but john kerry is the first one that i will vote for that i have really loved as a candidate and was very strongly for. although iw ould have worked just as hard to help whoever won the nomination beat bush. but i'm still happy kerry won the nomination.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 02:58 AM
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7. I really wish I could feel the same enthusiasm
for Kerry...but I just have a lot of reservations about him. I have been aware of him for many years and really thought at one point...well here's a possibility...but over the years have become less & less impressed. Somehow Kucinich is different - for me- I am really in awe of the way he just stands up and speaks the truth which in practically unheard of in politics. LOL
Somehow meeting the man in person & looking into his eyes and watching how he treats people around him, well, he is a truly good man & I think we can use all the good guys we can get.


Anyhow...good for you for voting...we need to get that *creep-OK, THOSE CREEPS outta the WH!

Peace
DR
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 09:24 AM
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11. I prefer the 1986 John Kerry to the current one
You know, back when he wasn't afraid to expose a bogus war being waged on a third-world country by a bunch of right-wing lunatics under the guise of "defending ourselves" from their evil might.

In 1986, Kerry was not afraid to expose the wars the Reagan/Bush tagteam was waging in Central America. Today, unfortunately, he seems only too willing to go along with their pro-war agenda-- even though many of the same people behind Reagan/Bush in the 1980s are also behind the Shrub today.

I dunno, DR, I think it may be a function of our age. We grew up in a time where Democrats were not afraid to be liberals, and stand up to the Repugs, no matter how much crap they caught.

Back then, even if we did not have the presidency, we had strong Democrats in the House and Senate who were not afraid to stand up to the Newt Gingrichs and Tom DeLays, and call them out for the lying scam artists they really were. Tip O'Neil NEVER put up with that kind of bullshit when he was around.

What do we have these days? Tom Daschle? Dick Gephardt? Puh-lease. I wouldn't trust either one of these to lead a cub scout pack, much less our opposition to Shrub.

Hell, even Mike Dukakis looks like a pitbull compared to our current "leadership".

(FULL DISCLAIMER: Dukakis was my first campaign, and got my first vote for president in 1988-- and even then, you could tell the rot was setting in.)


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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 09:55 AM
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13. And I prefer the 1986 sangha
He was much healthier and energetic. I also prefer puppies, walks in the rain, and sunsets.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 08:28 AM
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8. Kucinich is the only liberal candidate remaining in the race
That's why I support him for President and will be voting for him in next month's Indiana primary.

You won't get nuances, waffles, flip-flops, or PPI imperialism from Dennis!
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MaggieSwanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 08:03 PM
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15. Right on, IndianaGreen!
"You won't get nuances, waffles, flip-flops, or PPI imperialism from Dennis!"


:toast: To Dennis!
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