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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 10:37 AM Original message |
Kerry's Crucible -- by William Greider |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. Here is a link to the complete article. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
2. Haven't read the whole article yet, but |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. OK, I read the whole article |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. He doesn't confuse them, because they are intertwined |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Unions are not the only Dems with a position on Free Trade |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. another note on the "Bob Rubin coziness" |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. How many times do we have to go through this exercise in literalism? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I said "assumption", not "assertion" |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I'll concede my immediate mistrust at the mention of Rubin's name |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 01:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Your distrust is justified |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Don't fall back on literalism to excuse the fallacy of your argument |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Not a straw man, IC |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 10:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. IT depends on what you mean by free trade |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. "Free trade is both good and bad" - I agree |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:03 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Free trade is an impossibility, a ghost conjured up by neoliberals |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:11 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Who you calling a "Neoliberal?" |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Read the second paragraph of my post, for who I'm calling "neoliberal" |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:12 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I'm going to make a guess |
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( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:24 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. regarding your definition |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Exactly. Proof positive that "theories" of "free trade"... |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I disagree |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Oh, please! |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. "Pronouncement"?? |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 01:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Point taken (nt) |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
23. Kerry ought to hire him as an advisor |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Actually, that's a pretty good idea |
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