Both Campaigns are talking UNITY. The Time For UNITY has come!

[Ian_walker]

Below I have rewritten the Chris Weigant speech to turn it into the Strategic UNITY Speech

THE STRATEGIC UNITY SPEECH
This version of the speech leaves the contest open but runs it without internecine war and unites the whole Democratic Party. I wonder if Pelossi, Howard Dean, Chris Redfern, George Stephanopoulos and the growing number of other Democrats are mediating how the deal can be done? A joint non aggression pact of not putting out tactical version of the Chris Weigant speech instead to put out this strategic version of the speech.

"We would like instead to address the people in the Democratic Party for a moment.

Our party is now pretty equally divided between ourselves. The race is about tied. We are obviously the two strongest candidates this party has to offer to win the White House in 2008. We both have our relative strengths, and much of the electorate is genuinely conflicted over who to select in the voting booth. Some say this is fracturing our party, but we don't believe that is true. The Republican Party is divided because of antipathy among their different factions -- but we are proud to say that our party is conflicted over who is the best between two very good choices.

So we would like to take this opportunity to offer each other the Vice Presidential spot on the Democratic ticket, should we be nominated by the party for President. Should the other be nominated, we are publicly saying we would accept that as well. We think both of us should get behind the idea of a 'dream ticket' right here on this stage. We challenge our party and America to do the same."
Cue very long standing ovation

(follow link for the original version of the speech)

UNITY is the Strategy

I want UNITY.
I want the NeoConMen to have a living Nightmare
I want 16 years
I want a Democratic party landslide
I want Strategic Momentum
I want a Democratic Party House of Representatives landslide
I want a Democratic Party Senate landslide
I want the NeoConMen buried
I want UNITY
I want the DREAM TICKET

Now that is a strategy.

[yourguide]

1. Yup they are.

Obama is talking about how there is no way he'd be her VP. No one cares, take your talking points elsewhere.

[BOSSHOG]

2. No he didn't

He said he was running for president and rambled on about what Bill said way back when, but he never said he wouldn't take the spot if offered.

[Ian_walker]

6. Neither candidate has ruled out the VP slot

People seem unable to parse what the candidates actualy say.

[Ian_walker]

4. Obama campaign is talking Dream Ticket and it give the NeoConMen NIGHTMARES

Because the DREAM TICET is UNITY and UNITY is a strategy.

The DREAM TICKET is BOTH candidates.
The DREAM TICKET is a landslide.
The DREAM TICKET is UNITY.

UNITY is a strategic momentum.
UNITY is 16 years.
UNITY will bury the NeoConMen.

Now that is worth fighting for

[yourguide]

55. Nobody cares...dont you get it? She's pissed off too many Obama supporters.

[Ian_walker]

65. UNITY is about the whole Democratic Party. Me I want Both candidates

All Real Democratic Party supporters will get behind the Democratic Party Nomination no matter who that is.

[yourguide]

68. The american people do not care what YOU want.

Many democratic party supporters find it distasteful that HRC stated a Rethug is more fit to be Commander in Chief than her Dem competitor.

It's time to clear the DLC dems out!

[Ian_walker]

69. 69% of Democratic voters now support the DREAM TICKET News Week Poll

I would submit that, they kind of over rule you.

Me I will let the Democratic Party decide.

[yourguide]

70. And the polls showed HRC winning Iowa, and she came in 3rd.

Me, I will let the candidate decide.

[SammyWinstonJack]

76. And he has pissed off many Democratic voters. Don't you get that?

[Ian_walker]

77. UNITY removes division. Unity solves impasse. Unity heals all wounds!

Good truths often need repeating

[niceypoo]

81. I agree with you, it would be a 16 year run.......minimum

...only problem is Obamas supporters don't do UNITY

[Cronus Protagonist]

3. I say NO to a Clinton/Obama ticket

And vice-versa. No way is this ia dream ticket. The dream ticket is Mr. Albert Gore and whoever he chooses who is NOT Hillary OR Obama.

[Ian_walker]

5. UNITY is about loyalty. Are you Loyal?

Me thinks me sees your mask slipping...

I say NO to a Clinton/Obama ticket
Posted by Cronus Protagonist

And vice-versa. No way is this ia dream ticket. The dream ticket is Mr. Albert Gore and whoever he chooses who is NOT Hillary OR Obama.

Any REAL Democratic Party Supporter will get behind the Democratic Party nomination.

My but the Rove Trolls are busy tonight time to give them nightmares:

UNITY is what gives NeoConMen Nightmares...
I love giving Nightmares to NeoConMen

DREAM TICKET you know it makes sense!

UNITY the gift that just keeps giving... NeoConMen Nightmares
DREAM TICKET another gift that just keeps giving... NeoConMen Nightmares

Terrify a NeoConMan today. While Drinking coffee in the Mall say to your Friend DREAM TICKET. Even if you whisper it a NeoConMen will hear it clear across the other side of the Mall. Try it really works.

And I do love giving NeoConMen Nightmares. And winding up the Rove trolls on this forum is just Soooo Much fun!

DREAM TICKET what all NeoConMen Hate. Winding up the Rove Trolls on this forum really is fun!

The NeoConMen hate Obama
The NeoConMen hate Clinton
The NeoConMen hate Kerry
The NeoConMen hate Bill Clinton
The NeoConMen hate Gore
The NeoConMen hate JFK
The NeoConMen hate Carter
The NeoConMen even hate their very own McCain
The NeoConMen hate every single Democratic Party candidate they always have and always will.

HATE is all they do. Winding up the Rove trolls on this forum IS Soooo Much fun!

They account for less than 30% of voters and declining. They have some loud mouthpieces like Fox and Talk Radio and the rest of the NeoConMen's media.

Their time is ended.

All they have left is Hate. Winding up the Rove Trolls on this forum is Soooo Much fun!

UNITY trumps hate every time. Winding up the Rove Trolls on this forum is Soooo Much fun!

That is what the United States of America is based on.

And America is sick of them. They are sick of the NeoConMen damaging the US economy. They are sick of the Iraq war. They are sick of the American image being dragged through the mud. They sick of the NeoConMen raping our planet. The sick of the NeoConMen's Tax Debt. They sick of rising gas at the pump. They are sick of the dollar in their pocket being worth half of what it was. They are sick of it all. Most of all they are sick of the NeoConMen and their lies and deceit. And they are hungry for change.

UNITY is what will win.
UNITY is what the NeoConMen fear
UNITY is the Gift that keeps giving...NeoConMen Nightmares
UNITY is a landslide
UNITY is Strategic Momentum
UNITY is 16 years of power
UNITY is a Democratic Party House of Representatives
UNITY is a Democratic Party Senate
UNITY is the NeoConMen buried
UNITY will beat hate! Winding up the Rove Trolls on this forum is Soooo Much fun!

[Name removed]

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[Ian_walker]

12. UNITY is a strategy. All else is mere tactics.

That is how the Democratic Party will bury the NeoConMen in a 16 year Landslide.

[Cronus Protagonist]

13. OK, well, have your "unity" without me

Not in my name.

[Ian_walker]

15. Democratic party supporters get behind the nomination

Simple fact of life

[Cronus Protagonist]

17. I will too, but there will not be "unity"

I will hold our candidate's feet to the fire once in office.

[Ian_walker]

30. UNITY is what wins. No candidate can win without it.

The Democratic Party Strategy will be UNITY
UNITY and HOPE

Questioning those in power is part of the USA's constitution.

[yourguide]

56. go F yourself is a better strategy.

[Ian_walker]

78. UNITY is what wins. UNITY is a landslide. UNITY is 16 years!

Democratic Party UNITY is far more important that any candidate or their supporters ego.

You say the Dream Ticket is just a dream...

Well that may be true and in truth I do have a dream...

Yes I have a dream, Martin Luther King's dream made flesh...

"I Have a Dream"

"...one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers..."
A speech delivered by Martin Luther King, Jr. on the 28 August 1963, at the Lincoln Memorial, Washington D.C.

A black man and white woman as presidential nominees for the Presidency of the United States of America

Forgive us will you, our dreams?

DREAM TICKET you know it makes sense!

Because UNITY is a positive message.
Because UNITY is a strong message.
Because UNITY is a powerful message.

Frighten a NeoConMan today.
While Drinking coffee in the Mall say to your Friend DREAM TICKET. Even if you whisper it a NeoConMen will hear it clear across the other side of the Mall. Try it really works. See how strong the UNITY? message is?

What is the NeoConMen's message? Hate Fear and Loathing.

The NeoConMen hate Obama
The NeoConMen hate Clinton
The NeoConMen hate Kerry
The NeoConMen hate Edwards
The NeoConMen hate Bill Clinton
The NeoConMen hate Gore
The NeoConMen hate JFK
The NeoConMen hate Carter
The NeoConMen hate the Dream Ticket
The NeoConMen even hate their very own McCain

The NeoConMen hate every single Democratic Party candidate, they always have and always will.

HATE is all they do.

They account for less than 30% of voters and declining. They have some loud mouthpieces like Fox and Talk Radio and the rest of the NeoConMen's media.

Their time is ended.

All they have left is Hate.

UNITY triumphs over hate every time.

That is what the United States of America is based on.

And America is sick to the stomach of the NeoConMen and their hate. They are sick of the NeoConMen damaging the US economy. They are sick of the Iraq war. They are sick of the American image being dragged through the mud. They sick of the NeoConMen raping our planet. The sick of the NeoConMen's Tax Debt. They sick of rising gas at the pump. They are sick of the dollar in their pocket being worth half of what it was. They are sick of it all. Most of all they are sick of the NeoConMen and their lies and deceit.

And they are hungry for CHANGE.
And they are hungry for UNITY.
And they are hungry for HOPE.

HOPE is the Vision.
UNITY is the Strategy.
CHANGE is the Means.

UNITY is what will win.
UNITY is what the NeoConMen fear
UNITY is the Gift that keeps giving
UNITY is a landslide
UNITY is Strategic Momentum
UNITY is 16 years of power
UNITY is a Democratic Party House of Representatives
UNITY is a Democratic Party Senate
UNITY is the NeoConMen buried
UNITY will beat hate!

See how the Democratic UNITY message is stronger then the NeoConMen's hate message?

If you think I am copy pasting the same replies I am!
Some truths need oft repeating to stop them being drowned in the miss truths and lies.

Kind Regard walker

[redqueen]

11. You say a lot about Neo-CONS but nothing about Neo-LIBERALS.

Mistake, that.

[Ian_walker]

20. What I talk about is UNITY

Democratic party UNITY

The kind of UNITY that gives the NeoConMen a living Nightmare
The kind of UNITY that gives the Democratic party 16 years in power
The kind of UNITY that gives a Democratic party landslide
The kind of UNITY that gives Strategic Momentum
The kind of UNITY that gives a Democratic Party House of Representatives landslide
The kind of UNITY that gives a Democratic Party Senate landslide
The kind of UNITY that will bury the NeoConMen

I want UNITY
I want the DREAM TICKET

[Catherina]

7. Sorry. There can be no unity with Hillary. Tell Bill to hang it up. n/t

[Ian_walker]

10. UNITY is what wins. UNITY is a landslide. UNITY is 16 years!

All Real Democratic Party supporters will get behind the Democratic Party Nomination

That is an abosolute
That is a given
That is a the Truth

UNITY is the Strategy

[Catherina]

26. Keep dreaming n/t

[Ian_walker]

37. Yes I have a dream, Martin Luther King's dream made flesh

"I Have a Dream"

"...one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers..."
A speech delivered by Martin Luther King, Jr. on the 28 August 1963, at the Lincoln Memorial, Washington D.C.

Forgive us will you, our dreams?

[Johnny__Motown]

9. I agree with you... but how unifying was this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZsYWiywdCA&feature=related

[Ian_walker]

14. UNITY removes division. Unity solves impasse. Unity heals all wounds!

When the Democratic Party Nomination is made.
All Real Democratic Party supporters get behind the Democratic Party Nomination.

NO IF BUTS OR MAYBES

UNITY is a Fact
UNITY is a Given
UNITY is the Strategy

[Cronus Protagonist]

19. ummmm unity is not a verb, and unity does none of these things

Unity can be a result of something ELSE, but it is not achievable simply by calling for it. All you are doing is repulsing people that you might want to bring in. When the Republicans call for "unity", they mean going along with THEM, just like you're doing. Unity at all costs is not desireable.

[Ian_walker]

21. 69% of Democratic voters now support the DREAM TICKET News Week Poll

They would seem to give the lie to your argument

by the way your mask slipped already

[Cronus Protagonist]

27. 69% is not unity

And what mask do you refer to?

[Cronus Protagonist]

16. Don't you know you're helping HER get HER message out?

You're drumming into people's heads that Obama is nothing more than "a speech he made in 2002". I know you think people will be digusted by Hillary, but really, you're propagating her words.

[Ian_walker]

22. UNITY is what gives NeoConMen Nightmares...

You mask just keeps slipping

[Cronus Protagonist]

50. I think you just mght be certifiable

But I'll keep you kicked for my own amusement. Oh, and what is the mask, and what do you think it was hiding? My super high post count and my dedication to the Democratics since Election 2000? Or perhaps the slew of anti-bush web sites I host and provided during the country's fawning over Herr Bush? Or perhaps it was hiding my anti-bush businesses and anti-war support? Come on, tell us what it is you think you see, kiddo?

[Ian_walker]

72. UNITY is about loyalty

Further up in the post
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5006040&mesg_id=5006190

Any Real Democratic Party Supporter will get behind the Democratic Party nomination
No If Buts or Maybes

I quoted you at the time in this post
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5006040&mesg_id=5006730
Here is the quote again what you said.

I say NO to a Clinton/Obama ticket
Posted by Cronus Protagonist

And vice-versa. No way is this ia dream ticket. The dream ticket is Mr. Albert Gore and whoever he chooses who is NOT Hillary OR Obama.

Your very own words

Let me again take the opportunity to quietly say
DREAM TICKET will bury the NeoConMen

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

18. the race isn't tied. that's Hillaryspeak. she's down 132 delegates. the race is over.

time for unity? yes. she'll have to sheath her knife and drop out first, though.

[Ian_walker]

25. So far the Democratic Party nomination is a Statistical Dead Heat.

The Facts
In terms of Delegates
Without Florida and Michigan Either candidate need 2,024 out of 4,047
Neither candidate is any where near that.
Obama has 1,387 or 52%
Clinton has 1,229½ or 47%
Edwards (suspended not withdrawn) has 26 or 1%

Do the math
1,387 + 1,229 = 2,616 total Delegate Votes decided (we will ignore the half vote for now)
4,047 - 2,616 = 1,431 Delegate Votes still to be declared.
Now some of that is promised votes from super Delegates but there are still some 600 outstanding Delegate votes and about 300 Super Delegate votes to be decided.

Without Florida and Michigan Either candidate need 2,024 out of 4,047
If Florida's and Michigan's delegates are counted, the requirement is 2,207½ votes out of 4,414 (now we had better see where that half vote went)

Oh and Clinton is ahead in the popular vote by about 32,000 ballots.

1,431 Delegate Votes still to be declared Now you can try to Fox news that in Floria that any way you want.

Me I will let the Democratic Party decide.

I will be happy with either of them as President but what I want is both as President. I want 16 years.

It is a Dead Heat
So much so that Howard Dean has said on ABC television "If we have to sit the two candidates down together or their campaigns down together and try to figure out how to make peace and have a convention that's going to work, then that's fine,"

Howard Dean is the Democratic Party strategist. I will take his opinion on Strategy as being considerably more important than yours.

And DREAM TICKET is a real strategy and not some candidates or their supporters ego.

But
I want UNITY.
I want the NeoConMen to have a living Nightmare
I want 16 years
I want a Democratic party landslide
I want Strategic Momentum
I want a Democratic Party House of Representatives landslide
I want a Democratic Party Senate landslide
I want the NeoConMen buried
I want UNITY
I want the DREAM TICKET

Now that is a strategy.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

32. 52-47 isn't a dead heat. it's a five-point GAP.

[Ian_walker]

38. I leave calling a contest before its done to Fox news in Florida

And with over a third of the votes still to be counted. Not even Fox News dared that.

It is for the Democratic Party to decide the Nomination not you or I

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

82. fair point. I should've said..."For ALL practical purposes..."

[laugle]

62. Obama can't win without

Hillary supporters! You may want to think about that! Unity will be key in the GE for either candidate to win!

Hell hath no fury like pissing off the female supporters of Hillary.....

[harun]

71. Hill supporters aint going to vote for McCain (n/t)

[Ian_walker]

74. Are you saying Obama supporters would rather Vote for McCain?

Because I think Obama might disagree with you.

[Upton]

23. We'll get a landslide in the Senate and House

unless Clinton is the nominee, she'll bring all those apathetic Republicans to the polls just to vote against her.

[Ian_walker]

28. YES WE WILL

It does not matter that the NeoConMen hate
The NeoConMen hate Obama
The NeoConMen hate Clinton
The NeoConMen hate Kerry
The NeoConMen hate Bill Clinton
The NeoConMen hate Gore
The NeoConMen hate JFK
The NeoConMen hate Carter
The NeoConMen even hate their very own McCain
The NeoConMen hate every single Democratic Party candidate they always have and always will.

HATE is all they do.

DREAM TICKET what all NeoConMen Hate.

They account for less than 30% of voters and declining. They have some loud mouthpieces like Fox and Talk Radio and the rest of the NeoConMen's media.

Their time is ended.

All they have left is Hate.

UNITY trumps hate every time.

That is what the United States of America is based on.

And America is sick to the stomach of the NeoConMen and their hate. They are sick of the NeoConMen damaging the US economy. They are sick of the Iraq war. They are sick of the American image being dragged through the mud. They sick of the NeoConMen raping our planet. The sick of the NeoConMen's Tax Debt. They sick of rising gas at the pump. They are sick of the dollar in their pocket being worth half of what it was. They are sick of it all. Most of all they are sick of the NeoConMen and their lies and deceit. And they are hungry for change. They are hungry for UNITY.

UNITY is what will win.
UNITY is what the NeoConMen fear
UNITY is the Gift that keeps giving...NeoConMen Nightmares
UNITY is a landslide
UNITY is Strategic Momentum
UNITY is 16 years of power
UNITY is a Democratic Party House of Representatives
UNITY is a Democratic Party Senate
UNITY is the NeoConMen buried
UNITY will beat hate!

[IDemo]

24. This is not the Communist Party of the Soviet Union

You are attempting to demand the same type of unquestioning loyalty and subservience as a condition of membership, though. You make yourself sound more like your NeoConMan bogeyman in doing so than a true defender of democracy or the Democratic Party. I would suggest you spend less time tirelessly cutting and pasting the same topic and replies, and a little more time looking into basic American civics.

[Ian_walker]

29. Democratic party supporters get behind the nomination

Simple fact of life.

United States of America

Do you see the importance of unity?

[IDemo]

31. I do not require lecturing by a mental 12 year old on the concept of unity

You are confused and frankly a bit obsessive-compulsive with these posts.

[Ian_walker]

34. UNITY is what wins. UNITY is a landslide. UNITY is 16 years!

I see you think you are loosing the argument.

Personal abuse is the last regfuge of those loosing the argument.

Me I prefer a strategy

And the strategy is UNITY

UNITY that the NeoConMen fear
UNITY that is the Gift that keeps giving...NeoConMen Nightmares
UNITY that is a landslide
UNITY that is Strategic Momentum
UNITY that is 16 years of power
UNITY that is a Democratic Party House of Representatives
UNITY that is a Democratic Party Senate
UNITY that is the NeoConMen buried

[opihimoimoi]

33. I notice you are talking POSITIVENESS....Unity is Pos..Divided is NEG

There are a lot of Negatives in our society....

Many of them come here to share with moot minutiae crap...trouble making included..

They do not ant UNITY for their selfish reasons..

All we can do is hope Common Sense prevails to the point of winning by joining to defeat the common Enemy...which is the GOP's Political Delusion and flawed Philosophy....

[Ian_walker]

36. UNITY is a positive message and a positive strategy.

Any REAL Democratic Party Supporter will get behind the Democratic Party nomination. That is a given.

UNITY is a positive message, but it is not weak. If UNITY was weak the United States of America would be weak.

Unity then is not only a positive message
UNITY is a STRONG message.

That is the message I am trying to put across.

See for your self in the following text:


DREAM TICKET you know it makes sense!

UNITY the gift that just keeps giving... NeoConMen Nightmares
DREAM TICKET another gift that just keeps giving... NeoConMen Nightmares

Terrify a NeoConMan today.
While Drinking coffee in the Mall say to your Friend DREAM TICKET. Even if you whisper it a NeoConMen will hear it clear across the other side of the Mall. Try it really works. See how strong the UNITY? message is?

And I do love giving NeoConMen Nightmares.

DREAM TICKET what all NeoConMen Hate.

The NeoConMen hate Obama
The NeoConMen hate Clinton
The NeoConMen hate Kerry
The NeoConMen hate Bill Clinton
The NeoConMen hate Gore
The NeoConMen hate JFK
The NeoConMen hate Carter
The NeoConMen even hate their very own McCain
The NeoConMen hate every single Democratic Party candidate they always have and always will.

HATE is all they do.

They account for less than 30% of voters and declining. They have some loud mouthpieces like Fox and Talk Radio and the rest of the NeoConMen's media.

Their time is ended.

All they have left is Hate.

UNITY trumps hate every time.

That is what the United States of America is based on.

And America is sick of the NeoConMen and their hate. They are sick of the NeoConMen damaging the US economy. They are sick of the Iraq war. They are sick of the American image being dragged through the mud. They sick of the NeoConMen raping our planet. The sick of the NeoConMen's Tax Debt. They sick of rising gas at the pump. They are sick of the dollar in their pocket being worth half of what it was. They are sick of it all. Most of all they are sick of the NeoConMen and their lies and deceit. And they are hungry for change.

UNITY is what will win.
UNITY is what the NeoConMen fear
UNITY is the Gift that keeps giving...NeoConMen Nightmares
UNITY is a landslide
UNITY is Strategic Momentum
UNITY is 16 years of power
UNITY is a Democratic Party House of Representatives
UNITY is a Democratic Party Senate
UNITY is the NeoConMen buried
UNITY will beat hate!

See how the Democratic UNITY message is stronger then the NeoConMen's hate message?

[opihimoimoi]

79. I love it...good for you....ya did it right...sending tons of support, fish/poi/pig

:toast:

[knixphan]

35. Unity in the party.

Good idea.

Dream ticket, if we're dreaming...

OBAMA/GORE. That's 'dream'.

OBAMA/EDWARDS comes next.

Richardson

Dodd

Webb.

[Ian_walker]

39. UNITY is about getting behind the Democratic Party Nomination

Whom so ever that may be.

The Dream Ticket is a UNITY strategy
The Strategic UNITY Speech is the process by which it is achieved.

But UNITY is the strategy. It will give the Democratic Party 16 years and it will bury the NeoConMen.

[berni_mccoy]

40. "Our party is now pretty equally divided between ourselves" -- Wrong.

Far more people want Obama. He's bringing more new people to the party than any one individual ever has.

[Ian_walker]

42. So far the Democratic Party nomination is a Statistical Dead Heat.

People accuse me of cut and pasting, it is true I do!
Every time people post the same errors, mistakes and lies

Same question = Same reply
Rinse and Repeat as necessary

Go to save myself From RSI some how :eyes:

The Facts
In terms of Delegates
Without Florida and Michigan Either candidate need 2,024 out of 4,047
Neither candidate is any where near that.
Obama has 1,387 or 52%
Clinton has 1,229½ or 47%
Edwards (suspended not withdrawn) has 26 or 1%

Do the math
1,387 + 1,229 = 2,616 total Delegate Votes decided (we will ignore the half vote for now)
4,047 - 2,616 = 1,431 Delegate Votes still to be declared.
Now some of that is promised votes from super Delegates but there are still some 600 outstanding Delegate votes and about 300 Super Delegate votes to be decided.

Without Florida and Michigan Either candidate need 2,024 out of 4,047
If Florida's and Michigan's delegates are counted, the requirement is 2,207½ votes out of 4,414 (now we had better see where that half vote went)

Oh and Clinton is ahead in the popular vote by about 32,000 ballots.

1,431 Delegate Votes still to be declared Now you can try to Fox news that in Floria that any way you want.

Me I will let the Democratic Party decide.

I will be happy with either of them as President but what I want is both as President. I want 16 years.

It is a Dead Heat
So much so that Howard Dean has said on ABC television "If we have to sit the two candidates down together or their campaigns down together and try to figure out how to make peace and have a convention that's going to work, then that's fine,"

Howard Dean is the Democratic Party strategist. I will take his opinion on Strategy as being considerably more important than yours.

And DREAM TICKET is a real strategy and not some candidates or their supporters ego.

But
I want UNITY.
I want the NeoConMen to have a living Nightmare
I want 16 years
I want a Democratic party landslide
I want Strategic Momentum
I want a Democratic Party House of Representatives landslide
I want a Democratic Party Senate landslide
I want the NeoConMen buried
I want UNITY
I want the DREAM TICKET

Now that is a strategy.

[berni_mccoy]

43. Um. Sweetie, statistics only apply to polling surveys, NOT actual elections. Obama is Winning

by a relatively big margin. Recent Presidential elections have been decided by less than 1% of the popular vote. Obama is winning by nearly 2.5% of the popular vote and with a lead of 5% of the delegates.

[Ian_walker]

45. I leave calling a contest before its done to Fox news in Florida

And with over a third of the votes still to be counted. Not even Fox News dared that.

It is for the Democratic Party to decide the Nomination not you or I

People accuse me of cut and pasting, it is true I do!
Every time people post the same errors, mistakes and lies

Same question = Same reply
Rinse and Repeat as necessary

Go to save myself From RSI some how :eyes:

[berni_mccoy]

47. Who's calling it? Not I. I simply stated he's winning and he's brining in many new Dems.

[Ian_walker]

49. With the GOP Nomination up in the air DREAM TICKET is a must

Looks like with McCain's health situation he will now be forced to stand down. The Democratic Party will be up against Huckabee or some other mess.

The DREAM TICKET and UNITY is now esential.

[berni_mccoy]

54. It's only a must for Clinton. Obama has the ability to unite. She does not.

[Ian_walker]

58. Obama has not yet made UNITY speech

He needs to start talking Democratic Party UNITY.

[berni_mccoy]

64. You haven't been paying attention then. Here is one for you:

http://www.barackobama.com/2008/01/29/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_44.php

...And that is why it's American.

That's why I can stand here and talk about how this country is more than a collection of Red States and Blue States - because my story could only happen in the United States.

That's why I believe that we are not as divided as our politics suggests; that the dream we share is more powerful than the differences we have - because I am living proof of that ideal.

And that is what I have seen all across this country over the course of this campaign.

I've seen crumbling schools in South Carolina that are stealing the future of black children and white children.

I've been told of the injustice in the growing divide between Main Street and Wall Street by the lowest-paid workers and the wealthiest billionaires.

I've met autoworkers in Iowa and teachers in New Hampshire and dishwashers in Nevada who are all fighting the same fight for better wages and good benefits and a retirement they can count on.

And I've talked to young people and old people; Democrats, Independents, and Republicans who love their country, support their troops, and believe it is time to bring them home from Iraq.

We are not as divided as our politics suggest. Yes, we disagree. Yes, we have interests and ideologies that don't always align. Yes, we have real differences.

But the biggest divide in America today is not between its people, it is between its people and their leaders in Washington, DC. That is where our collective dream has been deferred. That's where the money and influence of lobbyists kill our plans to make health care more affordable or energy cleaner year after year after year. That's where campaign promises to keep jobs in America or put tax cuts in the pockets of working families are cast aside to make room for the politics of the moment. And that's where politicians would rather demonize each other to score points than come together to solve our common challenges.
...

[Ian_walker]

67. Does Obama want the Democratic Party nomination? ...

...Because if he does...
And for the record I think he does.

He needs to start making Democratic Party UNITY speeches to the people who will nominate him.

Because only a candidate who is for Demcratic Party Unity will get the Democratic Party Nomination.

[berni_mccoy]

73. Ah, I see, Americans aren't good enough for YOUR Democratic party. Got it.

[Ian_walker]

75. AND I said such a thing where?

[depakid]

41. Unity would be a landslide alright

the likes of which we last saw in 1984....

[Ian_walker]

44. 69% of Democratic voters and every poll in existence say the Dream Ticket Wins

69% of Democratic voters now support the DREAM TICKET News Week Poll

And every poll that has been conducted says you are wrong and by a very large margin. It will be a landslide a landslide for the Democratic Party that will bury the NeoConMen.

But most importantly you can tell it by the fear in the NeoConMen's Eyes every time you mention Dream Ticket.

[depakid]

51. Please, spare me the cheap media polls

Obama & Clinton would combine THE WORST attributes of the two -and you'd be damn near CERTAIN to have president McCain.

Unfortunately, seems to me that's the probability with either of the above -though perhaps a responsible VP choice might make a difference....

[Ian_walker]

52. Then just look at the fear in the NeoConMen's eyes...

...every time you mention Dream Ticket

[depakid]

57. What I see is relish

and finger wringing.

Indeed, I can see the far right machine chomping at the bit to have their go at either one of them. Both would be a bonanza beyond their wildest expectations!

[knixphan]

46. not sure they fear Hill

I'd say Edwards is scarier to the corporatists than Clinton.

Obama/Edwards is dream for everyone except the wealthiest 1%

No poll stats to back that up, because no polls asking that question

[Ian_walker]

48. Fear, hate and Loathing is all the NeoConMen do. The Democratic Party has UNITY and HOPE

Any REAL Democratic Party Supporter will get behind the Democratic Party nomination. That is a given.

UNITY is a positive message, but it is not weak. If UNITY was weak the United States of America would be weak.

Unity then is not only a positive message
UNITY is a STRONG message.

That is the message I am trying to put across.

See for your self in the following text:


DREAM TICKET you know it makes sense!

UNITY the gift that just keeps giving... NeoConMen Nightmares
DREAM TICKET another gift that just keeps giving... NeoConMen Nightmares

Terrify a NeoConMan today.
While Drinking coffee in the Mall say to your Friend DREAM TICKET. Even if you whisper it a NeoConMen will hear it clear across the other side of the Mall. Try it really works. See how strong the UNITY? message is?

And I do love giving NeoConMen Nightmares.

DREAM TICKET what all NeoConMen Hate.

The NeoConMen hate Edwards
The NeoConMen hate Obama
The NeoConMen hate Clinton
The NeoConMen hate Kerry
The NeoConMen hate Bill Clinton
The NeoConMen hate Gore
The NeoConMen hate JFK
The NeoConMen hate Carter
The NeoConMen even hate their very own McCain
The NeoConMen hate every single Democratic Party candidate they always have and always will.

HATE is all they do.

They account for less than 30% of voters and declining. They have some loud mouthpieces like Fox and Talk Radio and the rest of the NeoConMen's media.

Their time is ended.

All they have left is Hate.

UNITY trumps hate every time.

That is what the United States of America is based on.

And America is sick of the NeoConMen and their hate. They are sick of the NeoConMen damaging the US economy. They are sick of the Iraq war. They are sick of the American image being dragged through the mud. They sick of the NeoConMen raping our planet. The sick of the NeoConMen's Tax Debt. They sick of rising gas at the pump. They are sick of the dollar in their pocket being worth half of what it was. They are sick of it all. Most of all they are sick of the NeoConMen and their lies and deceit. And they are hungry for change.

UNITY is what will win.
UNITY is what the NeoConMen fear
UNITY is the Gift that keeps giving...NeoConMen Nightmares
UNITY is a landslide
UNITY is Strategic Momentum
UNITY is 16 years of power
UNITY is a Democratic Party House of Representatives
UNITY is a Democratic Party Senate
UNITY is the NeoConMen buried
UNITY will beat hate!

See how the Democratic UNITY message is stronger then the NeoConMen's hate message?

If you think I am copy pasting the same replies I am!
Some truths need oft repeating to stop them being drowned in the miss truths and lies.

Kind Regard walker

[David Zephyr]

53. Good sentiment, but there is no "tie". Barack is in first place across the board.

Obama has over 600,000 more votes than Hillary. She can not possibly overcome that number with the 11 states that remain. That's not a tie.

Obama has nearly 150 more pledged delegates won in the contests so far. That's not a tie.

Obama has won two times as many states as Hillary. There are not enough states left for her to even reasonably approach his number. That is not a tie.

Unity? Yes.

Have the number two candidate that lost decide that the number one candidate that won should be her vice-president? That is not going to happen.

Should Obama choose Hillary to be his VP? It might still be possible if she ends her campaign now, if she stops the personal attacks against him, if she stops the wasting of tens of millions more of Democratic funds in contests that can not change the results at this point...If she does that and asks Barack for the VP slot, I'm sure it will be hers.

If she continues this much longer, he will not pick her under any circumstances and that day is closely approaching.

The Clintons --- and their million-dollar advisers --- need to be graceful and face the numbers. They have lost. That would go a long, long way to generate the unity everyone wants.

Everyone, except her most loyal of supporters and paid staffers who are on the gravy train, sees the glaring math. And the more she continues her campaign, the more it signals that her and Bill are out to steal the nomination through back room deals with super delegates. That's hardly something that is noble and it will have millions of disillusioned Democrats sitting out the general election.

The Clintons must give up the notion of stealing the nomination. It is repulsive.

[Ian_walker]

60. So far the Democratic Party nomination is a Statistical Dead Heat.

People accuse me of copy and pasting, it is true I do!
Every time people post the same errors, mistakes and lies

Same question = Same reply
Rinse and Repeat as necessary

Got to save myself From RSI some how :eyes:

The Facts
In terms of Delegates
Without Florida and Michigan Either candidate need 2,024 out of 4,047
Neither candidate is any where near that.
Obama has 1,387 or 52%
Clinton has 1,229½ or 47%
Edwards (suspended not withdrawn) has 26 or 1%

Do the math
1,387 + 1,229 = 2,616 total Delegate Votes decided (we will ignore the half vote for now)
4,047 - 2,616 = 1,431 Delegate Votes still to be declared.
Now some of that is promised votes from super Delegates but there are still some 600 outstanding Delegate votes and about 300 Super Delegate votes to be decided.

Without Florida and Michigan Either candidate need 2,024 out of 4,047
That is
1,431 Delegate Votes still to be declared.
If Florida's and Michigan's delegates are counted, the requirement is 2,207½ votes out of 4,414 (now we had better see where that half vote went)

Oh and Clinton is ahead in the popular vote by about 32,000 ballots.

Now you can try to Fox news that in Florida that any way you want.

Me I will let the Democratic Party decide.

I will be happy with either of them as President but what I want is both as President. I want 16 years.

It is a Dead Heat
So much so that Howard Dean has said on ABC television "If we have to sit the two candidates down together or their campaigns down together and try to figure out how to make peace and have a convention that's going to work, then that's fine,"

Howard Dean is the Democratic Party strategist. I will take his opinion on Strategy as being considerably more important than yours.

And DREAM TICKET is a real strategy and not some candidates or their supporters ego.

But
I want UNITY.
I want the NeoConMen to have a living Nightmare
I want 16 years
I want a Democratic party landslide
I want Strategic Momentum
I want a Democratic Party House of Representatives landslide
I want a Democratic Party Senate landslide
I want the NeoConMen buried
I want UNITY
I want the DREAM TICKET

Now that is a strategy.

[Life Long Dem]

59. Obama alone would unite more than any Hillary or Obama team would.

[Ian_walker]

63. UNITY is what wins. Unity is Strategic momentum. UNITY is 16 years!

UNITY is a strategy

UNITY is the STRONG message that beats the NeoConMen's hate.

DREAM TICKET you know it makes sense!

UNITY the gift that just keeps giving... NeoConMen Nightmares
DREAM TICKET another gift that just keeps giving... NeoConMen Nightmares

Terrify a NeoConMan today.
While Drinking coffee in the Mall say to your Friend DREAM TICKET. Even if you whisper it a NeoConMen will hear it clear across the other side of the Mall. Try it really works. See how strong the UNITY? message is?

And I do love giving NeoConMen Nightmares.

DREAM TICKET what all NeoConMen Hate.

The NeoConMen hate Obama
The NeoConMen hate Clinton
The NeoConMen hate Kerry
The NeoConMen hate Bill Clinton
The NeoConMen hate Gore
The NeoConMen hate JFK
The NeoConMen hate Carter
The NeoConMen even hate their very own McCain
The NeoConMen hate every single Democratic Party candidate they always have and always will.

HATE is all they do.

They account for less than 30% of voters and declining. They have some loud mouthpieces like Fox and Talk Radio and the rest of the NeoConMen's media.

Their time is ended.

All they have left is Hate.

UNITY trumps hate every time.

That is what the United States of America is based on.

And America is sick to the stomach of the NeoConMen and all their hate. They are sick of the NeoConMen damaging the US economy. They are sick of the Iraq war. They are sick of the American image being dragged through the mud. They sick of the NeoConMen raping our planet. The sick of the NeoConMen's Tax Debt. They sick of rising gas at the pump. They are sick of the dollar in their pocket being worth half of what it was. They are sick of it all. Most of all they are sick of the NeoConMen and their lies and deceit.

And they are hungry for CHANGE.
And Hungry for UNITY.
And Hungry for HOPE

UNITY is what will win.
UNITY is what the NeoConMen fear
UNITY is a Strategy
UNITY is the Gift that keeps giving...NeoConMen Nightmares
UNITY is a landslide
UNITY is Strategic Momentum
UNITY is 16 years of power
UNITY is a Democratic Party House of Representatives
UNITY is a Democratic Party Senate
UNITY is the NeoConMen buried
UNITY will beat hate!

See how the Democratic UNITY message is stronger then the NeoConMen's hate message?

[ContinentalOp]

61. Do not taunt UNITY.

Pregnant women, the elderly and children under 10 should avoid prolonged exposure to UNITY.

Caution: UNITY may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds.

UNITY contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture, should not be touched, inhaled, or looked at.

Do not use UNITY on concrete.

Discontinue use of UNITY if any of the following occurs: Itching, Vertigo, Dizziness, Tingling in extremities, Loss of balance or coordination, Slurred speech, Temporary Blindness,
Profuse sweating, Heart Palpitations.

If UNITY begins to smoke, get away immediately. Seek shelter and cover head.

UNITY may stick to certain types of skin.

When not in use, UNITY should be returned to its special container and kept under refrigeration... Failure to do so relieves the makers of UNITY, Wacky Products Incorporated, and its parent company Global Chemical Unlimited, of any and all liability.

If UNITY should become soiled, wipe gently with a soft cloth moistened with sulfuric acid.

Ingredients of UNITY include an unknown glowing substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space.

UNITY has been shipped to our troops in Saudi Arabia and is also being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq.

Do not taunt UNITY.

UNITY comes with a lifetime guarantee.
UNITY. ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!

[Ian_walker]

66. LOL

:rofl:

HUMOUR is a most welcome friend

thank you

Kind Regards walker

[opihimoimoi]

80. Unity is SANITY, Reason, Common Sense, and LOGIC