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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:37 AM Original message |
For all you against the revote, because "FL dems broke the rules" |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
1. According to the record, they did it 'cause it's good for Florida |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
2. Voted for the bill and accepted the consequences for doing so. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. So you would support state Republicans controlling which states count for our nomination? |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. They obviously could do that anyway. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Now we're going in circles. Would you vote yay or nay? Yes or No? |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #9 |
24. I seem to have already answered that question, did I not? |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
3. Play you pay |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
5. However it happened, punishing the voters is the wrong thing to do. nt |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Voters punished themselves in this case. nt |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. legislators=voters? |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. They put Republicans in charge, did they not? |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. wow. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. Perhaps so, but you made a constitutional argument. |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
44. Agreeing to the bill is what punished the voters |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. I don't know, perhaps to ensure that we don't have 2012 primaries run in 2009. (nt) |
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SoFlaJet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
6. you would have to vote "aye" |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Fixing the voting process was more important. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
10. I would vote nay. What good is it to remove a voting machine if no votes were going to count.... |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
12. Good point zlt234. nt |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
13. I would have voted "aye" and then accepted the consequences |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
15. I didn't know that this was their only option |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Indeed. The Democrats are in such a pitiful minority in Florida they really can't do anything. |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. That is bad |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. I just checked the numbers. The Florida HoR is 78-42 Republican. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Yep, I knew they were outnumbered, I didn't know it was tagged on to another bill. |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. I don't think it was dishonest as much as it was uninformed |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
55. This thread has been very informative |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
16. OP that is what happened and because of that |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
53. Had every Democrat voted against the bill you still would have been |
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stahbrett (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
17. Would have voted NAY - the bill would have still passed, and I would be on record being against it |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
45. You wouldn't have got the bill in there if you didn't have some sort of concession. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
54. Actually it's in the DNC rules that if the Dems would have tried to stop |
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SoFlaJet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
18. here let Debbie Wasserman Schultz explain it to you |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. It was the fault of the Florida Democrats. Debbie is just wrong. |
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SoFlaJet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. We ALL demanded a paper trail for the last 8 years |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. This is very enlighting, I knew it was more political than it seemed. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
40. You are making my head hurt from the propaganda. |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. That's your response?!! AFter all the links you've duped on here and the ranting. You'r going |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. madfloridan doesn't want to admit the political reasons for it. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
26. I knew it was a political thing and not as cut and dry as some delusional people here would imply. |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
28. I would have given EQUAL weight to the facts that |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. They gave them a no-win situation. Vote nay, GOP manipulates the vote. Vote yea, GOP stops you... |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. If they couldn't win, they shouldn't have played |
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SoFlaJet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. exactly right Josh |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
30. maybe they should work on getting more seats? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. No one expected it to be this close, I damn sure didn't. |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. so whats michigans reason? |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
34. Democrats did not HAVE to push their voting day up. |
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Nine (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
35. I didn't know that. Thanks. |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
37. I would have voted for it. |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
39. Don't know about your choices, but...... |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
41. we were set up |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Well, duh. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
49. Not against a revote, just against awarding delegates without a revote. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
52. Nay |
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