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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:06 AM
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THOM HARTMAN LISTENERS: WAS THIS A SPOOF OR REAL?
? What might have actually happened in Ohio and Texas? Tin foil hat?
? Clip:
: "Rush, I understand that the Rush Limbaugh audience is mobilizing in Texas for Hillary. Am I hearing that right?"

: "I don't know if the audience is mobilizing or not. I am urging people — I am using a phrase — the Republicans — our nominee is chosen. It's John McCain.

Texas is open. And I want Hillary to stay in this, Laura. This is too good a soap opera. We need Barack Obama bloodied up politically, and it's obvious that the Republicans are not going to do it and don't have the stomach for it.

As you probably know, we're getting all kinds of memos from the RNC saying not to be critical there. Mark MacKinnon of McCain's campaign says he'll quit if they get critical over Obama.

This is the presidency of the United States you're talking about. I want our party to win. I want the Democrats to lose. They're in the midst of tearing themselves apart right now. It is fascinating to watch, and it's all going to stop if Hillary loses.

So yes, I'm asking to cross over and, if they can stomach it — I know it's a difficult thing to do to vote for a Clinton — but it will sustain this soap opera, and it's something I think we need. It would be fun, too."

-SNIP

http://www.thomhartmann.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=609&Itemid=113
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:09 AM
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1. I've seen that diatribe posted many times before and heard it referred to elsewhere.
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irish.lambchop Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:10 AM
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2. That was true.
limbaugh has been encouraging his listeners to vote for hillary in open primaries because she'll be easy to beat. He also gave numbers of registered Dems and number of Dem ballots cast - ballots cast in both states greatly surpassed number of registered Dems.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:15 AM
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5. Someone posted stats listed on comments from Hartman's show that indicated
Ohio & Texas split the Republican vote between Hillary & Obama fairly even where in previous primaries Obama was getting ~75% of cross-overs voters. Has anyone a link to this?
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:10 AM
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3. For real.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:13 AM
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4. ..
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:48 AM
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6. It is real. n/t
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:52 AM
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7. In Ohio, unless about a quarter of a million Repubs switched over to become registered DEMS
ON RECORD for the next two years...I am fairly certain that did not happen. Maybe some did, but not enough to make a bit of difference in Ohio. Most of the x-over was Indie vote...not Repubs.

Stock in tinfoil can return to normal now.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:04 AM
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8. There are still huge #'s of provisional (mainly in high Dem counties) left uncounted
(10 day rule) FROM OSU ELECTION LAW:

Sunday, March 9
 
Pay Attention to Provisionals
That's one piece of advice I'd give to both election officials and candidates this election season. This lesson emerged during the 2004 election, when the large number of provisional ballots cast in Ohio delayed the decision to call the state -- and thus the presidential race -- for President Bush. In Ohio's 2004 election, provisional ballots amounted to 2.8% of those cast, and an even higher percentage of the state's voters cast provisional ballots in 2006.

A large number of provisional ballots can indicate problems in a state's registration system. Also, to the extent a state relies heavily on provisional ballots, it's likely that some voters will be disenfranchised. Moreover, county-to-county discrepancies in the way provisional ballots are verified can alter the result of a close election -- and possibly lead to equal protection concerns.

To illustrate the impact of provisional ballots, I've been trying to find out the number and percentage of provisional ballots cast in Tuesday's primaries. So far, the Ohio Secretary of State's website doesn't appear to have this information. (As I mentioned Wednesday, it's important that this information be released as soon as possible.)

I have learned that a large number of provisional ballots were cast in Franklin County (Columbus area) on Tuesday. The total reported turnout was 299,688, but I'm told that there are approximately 20,000 additional provisional ballots that have yet to be verified or counted. If that's correct, it means that around 6.25% of Franklin County voters cast a provisional ballot. That's a lot.

-snip
http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/blogs/tokaji/2008/03/pay-attention-to-provisionals.html
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:14 AM
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9. Kucinich says 10,000 Republicans crossed over to vote against him in his district alone:
KUCINICH says 10,000 Republicans crossed over to vote against him
Run time: 05:23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WTEhYzEuzs

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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:29 AM
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11. I'll give you Ohio ...

I'll give you Ohio. She did very well there. But in Texas it's clear that the Dittoheads pushed her over the top.

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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:21 AM
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10. Worked the polls in Ohio.
Had Rthugs gloating about doing some politicking and then requesting a Dem ballot. Had one man limp off across the gymnasium saying that he would do anything to avoid a President Hussein. It took all I had to get through the day, trust me. Peace, Kim
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jaybeat Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 10:24 AM
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12. But then they whined about not being able to vote for other Repugs!
Many dittoheads who switched to vote as Dems then started complaining that they weren't able to vote in other Republican primaries, for state, local and Congressional races!

They have even used the word "disenfranchised," like somehow their rights have been violated by not being allowed to vote in BOTH primaries!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The great intellectual appeal of the Republican party is clearly attracting a high-caliber of voter, at least in Texas!!!
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