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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:09 PM Original message |
There is no way that Hillary can cheat her way to the nomination |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thank you-- you have just pointed out how ridiculous the nomination process really is |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yes, it's a bad, bad system |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. And I'm trying to draw attention to all of the flaws -- so people are aware |
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Smelting Pot (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Why is this the year to suddenly "get rid of caucuses"? |
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skater314159 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. Because Hilly loses in caucuses. Consistently. nt |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
40. Yes, caucuses should be thrown out. Absolutely -- they are NOT democratic and deeply flawed |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I disagree. I think caucuses, like town meeting are a splendid |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. because the delegates can vote for whomever they want. NOT DEMOCRATIC n/t |
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Smelting Pot (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Technically, so can the delegates at the National Convention. |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Yes, the caucus form itself is NOT DEMOCRATIC. It is not up to the voters. It is up to the |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. also, how many people actually know how to audit whether their delegates from their precinct |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
41. and for the record, I AM NOT a Hillary supporter. Never have been. Check my previous posts. n/t |
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Smelting Pot (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. I never accused you of being one. Read my post again. nt |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. I didn't accuse you. I was just stating something for the record. n/t |
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Smelting Pot (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Good to know. nt |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. One thing that is important is that seating MI and FL will have little effect on the outcome. |
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skater314159 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
36. But hopefully this election cycle will be the impetus for changes! |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. That's the problem, skater. The power brokers in the party DON'T WANT IT TO CHANGE. |
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skater314159 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
57. Time for a Revolution then. |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
3. If that should happen, I would hazard a guess that African-Americans |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I agree that it would almost certainly be political suicide if |
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skater314159 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
39. Yeah... |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
52. Or, more accurate demographically, anyone under 40 could bail out |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. You're right on that also..n/t |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
6. How do you cheat? |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. Will you think the same thing |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. *crickets |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. Show me the evidence. Until then, it's just tinfoil foolery |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
50. I don't have the posts at hand, but there was a poster |
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skater314159 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
44. I'm sure as hell not gonna "sit on my hands" |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
61. Ok... the sit on our hands remark |
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skater314159 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. OK, we're cool then! |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
8. Agreed, Dean wouldn't allow anything but a fair outcome. |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
9. I agree with you, with one exception |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I'm ok with redoing MI but just letting the FL result get seated as is |
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DB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. The penalty is no campaign money spent in Florida. But how |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
56. Good question. I'm sure they could do something - halve the delegates. How about they get 0 |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. I'd like to see their delegation halved, and the superdelegates not seated |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
60. Sounds good to me. |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
12. Who says he will win the popular vote?? |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
15. "If the SDs go for Hillary ... |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
16. Cali wants just do darn badly to have someone from Hillary's side call her "The Voice of Reason". |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. YOur post is DIVISIVE---shame on you when a MATURE obamafan is the voice of reason! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I could give a shit about that. |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
17. It should be pointed out that your argument works both ways too. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Absolutely. And to be clear, I think his lead in delegates and the |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Agreed. eom |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
21. Why on earth would she want to cheat? Did some mindless fool actually imply she would? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
23. Sure she can, and is. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Surelyl it should be obvious that it's not Clinton cheating when |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Riiiight!! And Bill Clinton appearing on Limbaugh's show the day before the election was what? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Thanks, Atomic Kitten. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. The whole thing reeks and Dems better quit holding their noses and accepting this sh*t. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. I hear you |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
63. Just so I understand |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
25. Absent "Justice" no system of rules or governance is morally legitimate and should be overthrown. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. It's a dreadful process and we're getting a full demonstration |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. Well, there *is* a process I could recommend in dealing with the FUBARs that are MI and FL. |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
30. Unless, of course, the voting machines are rigged |
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skater314159 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
33. Praise the Gods for that! |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
35. Totally agreed. It's breathtaking the amount of people here who don't understand the system |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
47. no way? |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
51. no way? |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
59. I was just thinking about this |
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