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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:45 PM Original message |
show me a state hillary can win in the general election that obama can't |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. The state of denial. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Every goddam time. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Arkansas |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Yeah, ol' hilary will be out campaigning for |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
44. That's the only one I can think of |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
55. That's fair, I think there's a reasonable argument that it's semi-home turf |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
3. Indiana. |
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tokenlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Even with Bayh Indiana is doubtful...n/t |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Agree. He's won several state-wide ballots but the general election in |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. Evan Bayh and Bill Nelson. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
58. Not a chance in hell |
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tokenlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. The media pundits are real fools on that question.... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. florida |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:47 PM Original message |
Arkansas, New Jersey, |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
9. yep, New Jersey |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
57. New Jersey consistently overpolls republicans |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
28. Just stop |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. I'm just going by recent polls |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Every 4 years at this point New Jersey is close in the polls |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. It's not even every four years, it's every year |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yes, McCain may win MA. I hate to keep repeating myself, but |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. i have lived there in the past, my parent live in worcester, and i'm in nearby ct |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. With O western Mass is a lock for McCain - 495/Worcester/Boston is Hill -not O - country |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
43. That's what worries me about Ma |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
59. McCain ain't winning Massachusetts, you're just making shit up |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
60. So Mass is in trouble with Obama |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
8. Some electoral map on another thread |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. PA and Ohio and Wisconsin and Michigan and Florida and Tennessee and NJ, CA, ARK - perhaps- or at |
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tokenlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Michigan???? |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Last I looked (I don't trust Ras) Hill polled better than O in the general |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Accept for the fact that she would bring out the Republican base |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Like women and seniors would not be more likely with Hill than with O? |
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EmperorHasNoClothes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
38. I don't really see McCain being a big draw for women. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. OK - women over 40 then - I agree the under 40 crowd would be Obama'a |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. and there's a key difference. obama would energize the democratic party |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. college energy for Obama can't be denied - but in past it dies during fall mid-terms |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. And if her tricks get worse she might even |
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thoughtcrime1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
62. Wisconsin? Now I know you're on something.... |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
12. okay |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
18. There are very few states one COULD win but not the other |
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progressive_realist (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
48. Oklahoma isn't going to go Dem |
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Hawaii Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I'm an Obama supporter, but I do think Clinton could win Florida because |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
49. Fooled again. |
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557188 (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
19. Ohio and Florida |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. OH. |
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WVRevy (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Ohio? |
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557188 (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Yes |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
47. OH for sure. I don't think either can win FL. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Yep. |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
63. IF we keep spreading this FALSE |
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Sulawesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
30. Illinois? |
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jalynn (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Tennessee |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
33. o.k. I'll play. |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
34. arkansas and florida nt |
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newfie4 (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
36. NJ, Pennsylvania, Arkansas, possibly Ohio & Florida |
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PM7nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. New Jersey? haha |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Yup, it's the same thing every 4 years... |
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newfie4 (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. they came closer in 04 though |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. He'll do no better than GW Bush in 2004 |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
42. I'm an Obama supporter but contend that she has the edge in the following states: |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #42 |
64. Very good list |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I hate to admit it but I agree |
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joeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
52. Fairytaleland, it is just west of Dreamworld n/t |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
53. The prize in the GE... Ohio. nt |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
54. Detailed analysis on this: |
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theredpen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-09-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
56. I posted some data here: |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
66. maybe FL for starters? you're old enough to remember 2000, aren't you? nt |
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