Penn: Obama Not Ready

[BL611]

“As get more of a sense that he’s not ready to be Commander-in-Chief, a lot of Independents who were supporting him are disappearing.”
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/03/09/penn-obama-not-ready.aspx


Sorry Hillary supporters, this is as cut and dry of "this person should not be President" as can be, you have never heard anything even close to this from Axelrod and Plouffe. He should be fired. The party elders better get a handle on this shit quick...

[Starbucks Anarchist]

1. And we know Mark Penn is always accurate.

:rofl:

[jalynn]

8. I don't think

he is ready to be CIC or VP, he needs more experience. He hasn't even completed a full term in the senate yet

[Liberal Veteran]

15. How many terms as a senator had Bill Clinton had before becoming president?

Or FDR for that matter?

[candice]

32. Bill Clinton served 12 years as governor of Arkansas

..and one term as the state's Attorney General.

Being governor of a state (other than Texas, which has a weak governor by design) is much better preparation for the executive office than being a senator.

FDR was a state senator and later Gov. of New York.

One reason Obama doesn't want to stay too long in the Senate is that one can get a "record," which can be used against one who has ambitions for president.

John Kerry is a prime example. His being named "most liberal" Senator was not in his favor with the average middle-of-the-road American.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

17. He served eight years in the IL state Senate as well.

Combine that with his years in the US Senate, and it blows Hillary's legislative experience out of the water.

[JackORoses]

19. Please tell me how his 11 years in elected office is less experience than Hillary's 7

[Nedsdag]

30. I'm sick of that meme.

Where's Hillary's "experience?"

Wait, a second, let me think! Oh, that's right! She has as much experience as Obama!

[cali]

33. gee, ever here of Abraham Lincoln? Do you even know what his

legislative experience was prior to running for President? Consider educating yourself. Obama has 8 years in the Illinois legislature and 3 years in the U.S. Senate. That is sufficient experience.

[IndianaGreen]

2. Hillary is the old woman in "Driving Miss Daisy."

She wants to put Obama in "his place."

:puke:

[Catherina]

44. I learned at DU that we should be more thankful

One poster wrote that Obama should be thankful he was "ever been allowed to go to college much less run for President". Others said Black districts get too many delegates, that Obama is Hitler. We've all but been told to get to the back of the bus. It's not our time, it's not our place they say.

The condescension here is as bad as the condescension the Clintons have for our community. When they see Black people, they lengthen a fake southern drawl, whip out a saxophone and make all sorts of promises they have no intention of keeping. We haven't forgotten their track record or Clinton's broken promises to us

Broken Promise No. 5: Welcome Haitian refugees. Candidate Clinton, on March 27, 1992, said: 'I think President Bush played racial politics with the Haitian refugees. I wouldn't be shipping those poor people back.'

http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=162359&secure=8743

[TwilightGardener]

3. This is insane. They are burning the house down.

[MonkeyFunk]

4. good god, have you people never observed

a primary race before?

[BL611]

11. Please enlighten me

as to the precedent for this since we have gone to a primary system. The red phone ad? How'd peanut wind up doing in Nov.?

[JackORoses]

21. There has never been a Democratic candidate who praised the opposing nominee above one of their own

The first time.

Can you not see how that crosses the line so much so that it has never been done?

[MonkeyFunk]

25. No

it crossed no line. You guys are hysterical.

She made the point that she's better suited to face John McCain than her opponent. That's what primary campaigns are all about.

No matter how many times you lie about it being an "endorsement", it's still a lie.

[BL611]

26. No she did not say better suited

She said McCain was qualified, she was qualified, and Obama was not. She said what she said, which is that the Republican nominee is qualified, and the likely Democratic nominee is unqualified. If all she said was "I am better suited to face McCain" that would be fine, thats not what she said, and what she said DOES cross the line ans is UNPRECEDENTED, I asked you above to cite a historical example of this, instead you just tried to change what she said.

[cali]

34. Actually, you're spinning just as much as those saying she endorsed him.

She clearly said that both she and McCain have the requisite experience to be President and that all Obama has is a speech he made in 2002- that he is NOT qualified. No matter how many times you lie about it and say she was only saying that she's better suited to run against McCain, you're still telling a lie.

[0007]

39. Appauding! Good post. Now go get them like you get after me Cali.

[babylonsister]

5. Not ready, but just super for VP. There's nothing else Penn can say. nt

[HeraldSquare212]

6. Penn only loses if Obama wins; his company is running McCain's campaign, too

[Muttocracy]

22. really? wow. nt

[HeraldSquare212]

27. Charlie Black, who is a senior adviser to McCain, works for a company that is owned by Penn's

company.

[Joe the Revelator]

7. The SD's are going to end this pretty quickly after Tuesday night

this can not go on like this.

[lapfog_1]

9. Mark Penn is not ready to be a campaign strategist.

And he demonstrates this on a daily basis. Not ready for the day after Super Tuesday.

"Heckava job, Penny"

[Vinca]

10. If Obama isn't ready, than why is Bill pimping him for Veep? nt

[lapfog_1]

12. Pandering to the black voters of Mississippi??? - n/t

[otohara]

13. Slime

what a sleaze this guy is.

[grantcart]

14. As soon as he picks HRC for vice president he will become allmost overqualified

in their mouths.

[VolcanoJen]

16. He probably fed the reporter that quote while getting a massage at the Four Seasons in Sedona.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/anneschroeder/0308/Mark_Penn_A_man_of_the_people.html

[Mooney]

18. Yet another ridiculous statement that Penn is pulling directly out of his ass.

That Hillary keeps him on is totally amazing to me.

[grantcart]

20. Fox's beltway boys just labelled HRC's comments the best commercial

against Obama that McCain could run.

[zulchzulu]

23. Penn has money in McCain and Hillary being CEO of Burson-Marsteller

Whether his money is gotten from Hillary with Burson-Marsteller or through the subsidiary BKSH, which is driving the McCain campaign, he's making money hand over fist for both sides.

Follow the money.

[Unsane]

24. When Jowls 'n Flopsweat opens his trap, nobody listens.

[backscatter712]

28. And shall we believe Blackwater Penn?

or is he a little biased?

[JimGinPA]

29. Penn: Not Ready For Swimsuit Season

:rofl:

[against all enemies]

31. Mark Penn may be the main reason Hillary is now hated.

[featherman]

35. ME: Penn not ready (to run a national campaign)

[high density]

36. I thought Team Clinton didn't care about independents?

Or at least that's the thrust of her supporters here on GDP.

[BootinUp]

37. Sorry, no blood no foul after the shit Obama and surrogates have said

about Hillary and the former President.

[Cha]

38. It's not about experience ..it's about judgement

and your girl has the judgement of a cornered rat.

[AGirl]

40. at first I thought Bo was being hypocritial

when he accused Clinton of saying anything to get elected, because I felt that he said alot of things that were not completely true as well, but now I do believe Obama is right, Hillary will say anything to get elected, even if it means destroying another democrats and the democratic's chnce to win in November , its disgusting.

[BringBigDogBack]

41. Hey Penn, GFY.

Marvelous campaign you're running there. :hi:

[CreekDog]

42. I wouldn't take Penn's advice

...on drinking water if I was dying of thirst.

[XemaSab]

43. Somebody stick an apple in that piggy's mouth

x(

[cooolandrew]

45. What they are trying to do is alter perception Barack need more surrogates coutner aguing.