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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:14 AM
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Please sign this petition to have Hillary disclose her taxes
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 11:15 AM by Genevieve
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:19 AM
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1. You beat me to it! done! It's been standard practice since the Watergate Era!
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:20 AM
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2. Why do you assume they are even done yet? You think she uses Turbo Tax?
As some saner media reports have said the Clinton's taxes are much more complicated.



http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/conason/2008/03/07/vetting_candidates/index.html


So if Obama expects a devastating revelation to leap from the pages of the Clinton tax returns when they are released to the press next month, he is more than likely to be disappointed. Chances are that she hasn't yet released her 2007 return because the paperwork isn't ready -- and she probably doesn't know what it will say when it is complete. Like most wealthy senators (and alas, most senators are wealthy), she doesn't spend much time poring over her own finances. Other people are hired to do that, and besides, she's been fairly busy for the past year or so.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:22 AM
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3. You're right. It takes time to omit and manipulate the returns to cover your ass politically.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:25 AM
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4. Yeah they do their own. Another idiotic, baseless response.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:34 AM
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5. i don't even have an answer for your post - it's too funny!
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:34 AM
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6. Ok you're amused by facts. Explains a lot.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:36 AM
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9. you're right, i'm just another cult follower. nt
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:36 AM
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8. How about the ones from 2000-2006? She has no excuse for not releasing them!
Are the Clintons hiding from the public all the ARAB money they got?
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:39 AM
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12. Why should she?
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:54 PM
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18. why SHOULDN'T she? Nothing to hide? nothing to fear-
she is covering something she knows will not be recieved well.

:shrug:

Do you want a president who behaves like this? it is bush's mo- not a Dem.

peace~
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:43 AM
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15. As if she isn't scrutinized excessively. You really hold out hope that something sinister is there.
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 11:43 AM by kikiek
That sounds desperate.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:57 PM
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19. as if she wouldn't be even MORE scrutenized in the GE? you
are kidding yourself-

Vetting is an on-going process. NO ONE is going to give her a pass, saying "oh yeah, we know all there is to know".

And Hillary supporters accuse Obama supporters of being naieve and blind?

projection?

:shrug:

peace~
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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:44 PM
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24. If there is nothing sinister, why not do what her opponent did and just release them?
Why should she? Because Obama did and in contrast she is giving people the impression that she's not really interested in transparency. That's not good.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:48 AM
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16. Some free advice for Obama By Joe Conason
But again, despite the strong incentive to produce dirt, the recent books by Jeff Gerth and Don Van Natta and by Carl Bernstein revealed little that was even unflattering, let alone incriminating, aside from the usual recycled gossip. Those Pulitzer-winning professionals, eager to expose whatever scandal might exist, no matter how minor, likewise discovered nothing.

As for the Clinton Foundation, the heavy-breathing insinuations about "secret" donors seem overblown. The role of Frank Giustra, for example, the wealthy mining investor whose huge contributions to the foundation have created controversy because of his company's uranium deal in Kazakhstan, was never secret. Or at least the Clinton Foundation staff didn't think so when they told me and other reporters about him three years ago.

When I went to Africa with Bill Clinton in July 2005 to work on a cover profile of the former president for Esquire, we traveled from South Africa to Kenya, Tanzania and Rwanda on Giustra's plane, a fact known to all the journalists on the trip, including Jennifer Senior of New York magazine and CNN's Sanjay Gupta. While I was reporting the story, foundation officials told me that Giustra had also provided the plane that took him and Clinton to Kazakhstan, China and other destinations later that summer. Donations and sponsorships from a wide assortment of other sources -- including Bill Gates, numerous investment banks, industrial companies, foreign governments and wealthy individuals -- have been made public on the foundation Web site.

Moreover, the Obama campaign would do well to not draw excessive attention to the Clinton Foundation, since it would only succeed in speeding the rehabilitation of Bill Clinton. His efforts currently provide HIV/AIDS medication to as many as 1.5 million poor people in Africa, the Caribbean and Asia who would otherwise be abandoned to die. (If Obama doesn't believe me he can ask Nelson Mandela, who challenged Clinton to deal with the crisis.) That humanitarian achievement demanded both audacity and hope, but it also required money. Whatever the former president has done to raise funds from his billionaire friends -- and he appears to have done nothing unethical at all -- there is not a shred of evidence that he relied upon any influence wielded in the Senate by his wife. Indeed, her policy stance toward the foundation's friends in places like Dubai and Kazakhstan is critical and unyielding.
http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/conason/2008/03/07/vetting_candidates/index.html
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:35 AM
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7. Why hasn't she release her taxes since they left the White House?
Is it all that Dubai money that poses a PR problem for her and Bill?

K&R
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:37 AM
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10. Oh, Dubai is definitely one of the biggies!
eom
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:42 AM
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14. and this Kazakh Mining Deal money as well:
After Mining Deal, Financier Donated to Clinton

By JO BECKER and DON VAN NATTA Jr.
Published: January 31, 2008
Late on Sept. 6, 2005, a private plane carrying the Canadian mining financier Frank Giustra touched down in Almaty, a ruggedly picturesque city in southeast Kazakhstan. Several hundred miles to the west a fortune awaited: highly coveted deposits of uranium that could fuel nuclear reactors around the world. And Mr. Giustra was in hot pursuit of an exclusive deal to tap them.

Unlike more established competitors, Mr. Giustra was a newcomer to uranium mining in Kazakhstan, a former Soviet republic. But what his fledgling company lacked in experience, it made up for in connections. Accompanying Mr. Giustra on his luxuriously appointed MD-87 jet that day was a former president of the United States, Bill Clinton.

-snip

snip

"Kazakhstan’s president, Nursultan A. Nazarbayev, whose 19-year stranglehold on the country has all but quashed political dissent."

"Mr. Nazarbayev walked away from the table with a propaganda coup, after Mr. Clinton expressed enthusiastic support for the Kazakh leader’s bid to head an international organization that monitors elections and supports democracy."

-snip

Just months after the Kazakh pact was finalized, Mr. Clinton’s charitable foundation received its own windfall: a $31.3 million donation from Mr. Giustra that had remained a secret until he acknowledged it last month. The gift, combined with Mr. Giustra’s more recent and public pledge to give the William J. Clinton Foundation an additional $100 million, secured Mr. Giustra a place in Mr. Clinton’s inner circle, an exclusive club of wealthy entrepreneurs in which friendship with the former president has its privileges.

LINK:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:58 PM
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20. You honestly think they have a line item on their taxes
called "Dubai bribes"?

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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:39 AM
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11. Done and recommended n/t
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:39 AM
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13. Thank you!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:51 PM
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17. Signed, commented, and delivered.
"Senator clinton asked for rick lazio's tax returns".
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youknowmenotdlc Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:00 PM
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21. done
K&R
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:00 PM
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22. One of the big issues with this
is she loaned her own campaign $5 million dollars and the american people have the right to know who funded her campaign.



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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:01 PM
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23. S&R!
(signed & recommended)
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:45 PM
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25. Be sure to have Obama disclose his too
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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:59 PM
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26. He already has. So has McCain. That's why Hillary's refusal to disclose her's is so strange.
She has stated that she won't disclose them unless she's the nominee.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:24 PM
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27. Don't need her tax returns. Her US Senate financials are much more informative....
Go here: http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/c001041/

Scroll down to financial disclosures. Much more information than 1040s.
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