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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:44 AM
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Why does Hillary have such a hard time understanding the rules?
This vote doesn't count because...

This state doesn't count because...

I know I agreed FL and MI were out BUT...now I'm losing and I need them.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:47 AM
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1. It would be a lot easier if this were a dynasty and she could just make up the rules.... errr.. wait
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:47 AM
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2. The thing is, she's not even made to look ridiculous in the media--they
actually buy whatever line of bullshit she sells and passes it along to the American people as the official narrative. Utter shamelessness is rewarded, integrity and honor are not.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:46 AM
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19. The media goes along because she's demonstrated she is willing to
get people suspended and maybe fired for their coverage of her. She's suing */Rove techniques to intimidate them. We've had enough of this.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:52 AM
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3. Because like Bush she feels above the law.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:59 AM
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4. She understands the rules...she just doesn't want to OBEY the rules....
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:14 AM
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7. You got it, earthlover.
And I think it's making her look really bad.

I think a lot of the Dem rules are f*cked up, but if they are in place when you start the race, you have to abide by them.

Why didn't she try to do something before she formally entered the race? That would have been the time to do it, not now, and especially not after the number of losses she's had.

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Suzie57 Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:31 AM
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9. And neither she nor her minions who are complaining now
will spend two minutes on reforming the primary system when this is over.

She knows you don't change the primaries now, after they have begun.

And the media aids and abets, tonight was the first night MSNBC didn't have Michigan and Florida on their map as Hillary states.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:53 AM
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11. Oh, I am SO glad we are learning this now, and not later.
No more signing statements.
No more breaking the rules and not being held accountable.
No more, no more, no more, goddammit.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:15 AM
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22. You got that right. We have seen what it is like when a President doesn't follow the rules....
You can predict someone's future by their past. Hillary's past of not wanting to play by the rules is scary.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:34 AM
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30. Scary's the word. Definitely.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:00 AM
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5. It's like George Bush and Rove have rubbed off on her. It's gross! nt
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:12 AM
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6. How long until she says, "A dictatorship would be a lot easier...as long as I'm the dictator"?
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:28 AM
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8. "only little people obey the rules?"
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:56 AM
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13. That sounds more like Howard Dean's position
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:39 AM
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10. Because Hillary has narcissistic personality disorder. n/t
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:27 AM
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14. Yes. This is a classic symptom.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:36 AM
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32. Do you want her fingers on that nuclear football? I sure as hell don't
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 10:36 AM by 48percenter
and I don't want McLames' on it EITHER.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:10 AM
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12. Dean said that they would be seated if the candidates agreed to seat them...
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 02:10 AM by Ravy
so how is one of the candidates saying they are agreeing to seat them wrong?????
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istopforcookies Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:33 AM
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15. Let's disenfranchize the voters!
Wrong!

This is the United States of America.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:10 AM
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16. Agreeing to seat them isn't wrong.
Demanding they be seated, threatening riots and supporting frivolous lawsuits over the issue is wrong.

Obama has no reason to agree to seat the delegates since the election was not valid.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:39 AM
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17. Actually it was said all along that the primary votes in MI and FL would likely be counted
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 07:23 AM by kikiek
The candidates promised to not campaign. They weren't told to not have names on the ballot. That was additional punishment by individual candidates to suck up to Iowa and NH since they felt their status as major players in the primaries were threatened by the earlier voting of MI and FL. It was said all along by the leaders of the state they would push for their votes to count. So, as is most of the time, the blaming of Hillary is propaganda.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22054151/
Michigan officials anticipated the action by the Democratic National Committee's rules panel. But Michigan Democratic Chairman Mark Brewer said before the vote that he didn't think the delegates would be lost for good. He expects the Democratic presidential nominee will insist the state's delegates be seated at the convention.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:43 AM
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18. when I see posts like tha OP I just assume they know this and are trying to pull a fast one
but, apparently, folks need reminding that all they pledged to do was to not campaign in those states. Nothing in the pledge about not having those votes cast in those states count. That's the product of moves by Dean and the party leaders.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:04 AM
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20. They are more than happy to blame it all on Hillary when they knew all along the states expected
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 07:04 AM by kikiek
their votes to be counted in the end. The only reason they would pull their names off in the 1st place was they didn't expect to win, and then they could scream like they are about not counting them. Obama is much more calculating and dirty than people give him credit for.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:20 AM
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21. How could any of us try to defend outselves in court with this kind of BS?
Your Honor - Yes I was going 60 in a 35 but now I am here to say that I have changed the sign on the road and it says 60 now so I am not guilty?

Or:

Since you asked Your Honor I am not going to pay my bill because I have written up a new contract and signed and dated it and it says I am in no way responsible for this any more!

How in the H can they defend this action????

Bush league - Clinton league - Anything to win league!!!

Just like W - Make up your own rules - nothing is sacred!

Take a look at this:

Paul v. Clinton - video (on the bottom of the page)and info at:

http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/could_the_paul_v_clinton_fraud_suit_upset_the_clinton_democratic_party

The article is entitled Could the Paul v Clinton Fraud Suit Upset the Clinton Democratic Party? It is about a man who says he had given the Clinton's 2 million for HRC's Senate race in 2000 and they never reported it.

This in no way says that Clinton is guilty BUT the trial is going to be coming up in Oct, 08!

:wow:
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Splinter Cell Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:16 AM
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23. ???
Didn't you know? The rules don't apply to her.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:23 AM
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24. The DNC imposed these rules.
No one knew at the time that this race would be so close.

What should happen now?

Are those voters to be given a chance to make an impact on the outcome?

I think so because those voters should not have to suffer because of what party officials decided to impose upon them.

The DNC both nationally and statewide in Florida and Michigan made mistakes. The voters in those 2 states did not.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:48 AM
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29. "No one knew at the time that this race would be so close."
NO SHIT; 20/20 hindsight does not excuse DISOBEYING the rules that were set and agreed to by all!

20/20 hindsight does not forgive what HRC voted for in Iraq.

FL and MI knew what would happen; they were told and went ahead and moved their primaries anyway. Sorry for the people but their elected officials, like Bill Nelson, fucked up. Their State Democratic Parties fucked up!

Too fucking bad. Split the delegates in both states 50-50 PERIOD!
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:33 AM
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25. Oh to be young and naive. LOL
The woman understands the rules perfectly. She is a smart lady. But she also has a win-at-all-costs mentality that trumps rules, ethics, and morality. She will couch it in terms of "disenfranchisement" but the voters were screwed over by their own Gov's and Legislatures that decided to hold early primaries knowing the risks ahead of time.

People talking about a do-over??? How insane is that!?
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:38 AM
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26. because only the "little people" pay taxes and abide
by rules, not Queens like Leona and Hypocrillary
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:39 AM
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27. she is a moran, with no morels...
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 08:40 AM by meow mix
maybe she can look it up on teh Youtubez
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:40 AM
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28. Doesn't want to "dirty her beautiful mind" with those pesky rules. nt
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:32 AM
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31. Apparently,
Because they are MENS rules they do not apply to HER.
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