I am not a Hillary supporter anymore.

[AGirl]

I have enough with her using the national security issue to win the the nomination.

It's disgusting that she is using the tactic that Bush and Dick has been using for the past 8 years. I don't want to vote for someone who will continue to use the fear issue to win any office.

Saying that McCain is ready to be commander in chief is too much!


Edited: Thank you for all the kind responses, but I am not doing anything big, just being objective and honest about my views like every progressive person should be.

[Skip Intro]

1. hmmm...

[SoFlaJet]

26. yea think about THAT Skip Intro

look at what sensible true democrats are saying and doing today-please renounce the politics of lies and smear and join us-we NEED this election

[Skip Intro]

69. Yeah, I am thinking about that. And about that I will just say this, things are not always

what they appear.

I have seen that Obama is a fraud, and will not, today, tomorrow, or in November, support him.

I have seen Obama call Hillary all kinds of things. I have seen his supporters here spew venomous hate at anyone who did not fall in line behind him. I have seen him say he bases his positions on political calculation.

It surprises me greatly that Hillary was the one today attacked, and yet somehow Obama is the one above it all and Hillary is the bad one.

I have the glasses. I can see through this kind of bs, thanks.

[SoFlaJet]

85. Look,

nobody is going to try and change your mind and it must be heartbreaking (because I KNOW-Edwards guy) to see the person who you have supported with everything you got turn into a piece of shit politician-the likes of which we have ALL been against all these years together here at DU

[hueyshort]

138. Hey, A Girl

Clinton's campaign advisors weren't serving her well, but she's still
going to be a strong president and accomplish a lot.

That ad didn't help her. In fact, I suspect it cost her votes.

But would you rather vote for a candidate who gave a speech,
then went behind the voters backs to tell Canada he was just feeding
his voters BS?
Then lied when the press asked him if he contacted Canada?

What Clinton did is politics. What Obama did is indicative of cynacism
and personal dishonesty.

This is a guy who takes his children to an old fashioned nationalist church - with a
pastor who vacations in Libya, and admires farrakhan. How is this
guy going to "Unify" anything? This is "progressive?" This is "change" Give me a break!
He is steeped in old world, Chicago style politics.

No, Clinton's dumb commercial did not cost Obama votes.
People have waked up to Obama.

[dchill]

149. "What Clinton did is politics."

Lie. Smear. Lie again. Smear again. Repeat.

What Clinton did is politics. What Obama did is indicative of cynacism and personal dishonesty.

I view your opinions with "cynacism" - or cynicism, whichever. Lie. Smear. Are you a Democrat? As far as I know...

[nadinbrzezinski]

107. I've seen Partisans for BOTH sides do that

but the last seventy two hours having Clinton put the GOP candidate AHEAD of the other Democrat is well bellow the belt

(Though I expect negativity for the Obama crowd as well)

In fact, due to BOTH sides and partisans (AND DLC connections) I will be voting while holding nose in November for EITHER of the two that gets the nomination... but Chicago '68 is more than present in my mimd

[anonymous171]

2. Did you get hacked or something?

Or is this some kind of joke?

[AGirl]

4. I didn't say I support Obama, but Hillary's latest comment is too much.

It's okay to say McCain has more experience, it's another thing to say he's ready to be commander in chief.

[anonymous171]

18. OK gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.

[shadowknows69]

43. So what are you going to do in November?

[eridani]

120. He's been known to get crazy mad on occasion

That's a trait you don't want in someone holding the nuclear football.

[pajjr]

3. not me

I am more sure that I really want Hillary to win. The rethugs will eat Obama alive.

[flor de jasmim]

5. On dailykos there is a thread about Wesley Clark also claiming Obama is unfit ... (w/ link)

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/7/173352/3754/192/471690

[Texas Hill Country]

27. pretty qualified source....

[JackORoses]

81. extremely biased source

[krkaufman]

147. chuckle. Yeah, maybe, if he wasn't making the opposite case he made for himself in 2004 ...

... when he was claiming that his speaking-out against the invasion of Iraq qualified him over the likes of those who had voted for the invasion (Kerry, Edwards).

[tishaLA]

37. now THAT is very disappointing.

[femmedem]

38. That's not good. I'm surprised as skilled a strategist as Clark wou.ld say that

Surely he can see that Obama is the almost certain nominee.

[tekisui]

45. I was still hoping he'd join Obama, as a vp. I guess that's not gonna happen.

[SoCalDem]

58. Promises promises

All the "experts" have something to gain..

They all remind me of the "expert witnesses" in trials..

Pay 'em to say something, and they will say whatever you need 'em to say..

and yes.. It's the same on both sides..

That's why I rarely pay much attention to what they say..

[KittyWampus]

98. Clark is brilliant in many ways but he is a lousy politician. And love the guy but he is niave

to the point of painfulness when it comes to political campaigning.

[GoldieAZ49]

110. Head of NATO he does know the affects of foreign policy

I respect what he says, it has been Obama's weakest area, and it shows more and more

[jgraz]

115. He's Powelling himself for Queen Hillary

It's pretty damn disgusting. I wonder what he thinks he'll gain from it.

[femmedem]

129. Clark made a wonderful ad for Lamont during that election season.

So I believe he truly thinks Clinton is the better choice. Of course I disagree. But I don't find his choice disgusting, only puzzling, especially as at this point, he must realize she isn't going to get the nomination.

[frazzled]

53. And to think, Samantha Power was his foreign policy adviser!

She was his shining star during the 2004 campaign.

Sad what people will say for political reasons. I like Wes, I worked for him, but he is definitely just playing the political game here.

[NMMatt]

6. We appreciate your support

In this election we have the chance to denounce Rove tactics once and for all.

[seabeyond]

41. yes YES.... exactly. so right on. yes...... hence my harping and blurred eyes

to 5 days on a damn computer.

[SoFlaJet]

7. welcome back to the democratic party AG

I think you are the 4th one today alone here who has said the same thing-and changed to Obama from the politics of destruction

[Coexist]

8. wow.

I don't know what to say other than, I'm sorry.

I support Obama, but I know how hard it is to break with a candidate you have defended.

[Laelth]

Agreed.

We all should be sorry.

I switched from Edwards ...

We can't let one family's ego destroy the party.

:(

-Laelth

[Coexist]

65. I switched from Edwards, too

it takes a couple days to 'mourn'.

[seabeyond]

73. i am still mourning kerry. still want him this race. i like edwards too n/t

[eridani]

121. I had to do it twice. First for Kucinich, then for Edwards.

Oh noes! Not John too!?!?!

[JackORoses]

9. the tide is really turning when loyal supporters like you jump ship

Glad to see you have realized the error of Hillary's ways.

no hard feelings.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. Good for you.

[ecstatic]

11. OMG! nt

[Sebass1271]

12. I used to be a supporter of hers..

as a matter of fact, i voted for her here in my state florida knowing my vote was not going to count (Fl) but it has been truly despicable what she has been doing. I guess, after all, the right wing machine has been right all along.. that she will do anything to win.. including giving low blows to her opponent within the same party. I have never seen anything like it.. I am sure, JFK and RFK must be revolving in their graves.

I have felt nauseous. Really. This is very serious for me b/c I know how we, as a party have been treated by the right wing and she has been using their same tactics.

:puke:

[eridani]

122. I prefer criticizing her from the left.

Never, EVER use RW memes on any Dem. Not against Clinton, and not against Obama.

[tekisui]

13. I am humbled by your admission.

I trust it is sincere.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

14. This is a joke right? n/t

[yourguide]

15. Let others be snarky

I applaud you in recognizing your candidate made a mistake. many around here cant seem to do that.

thanks!

[Texas Hill Country]

what the hell do you think the job of the President is???

THE job description in the US Constitution IS national security and foreign affairs!

[seabeyond]

33. but not fear mongering. that is no where is constitution. n/t

[Sebass1271]

40. and certaintly not against a guy you personaly KNOW

and that you have work with like Obama. She has given the right wing materials to run against her, if she wins the nod.

[Laelth]

74. Tearing down a fellow party member is not OK.

Tearing down a fellow party member while lauding his Republican general election opponent is flat out party-treasonous.

I don't care what the job description of the President is, and I don't care if what Hillary says is true (which it isn't).

If she wants the support of the Democratic Party, she had better act like a Democrat ... and not a Zell Miller or Joe Lieberman Republocrat.

:grr:

-Laelth

[dchill]

118. Here's the oath...

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

The President's "job description" (sworn duty) is to protect and defend the Constitution. Article II, Section 2 does not seem to indicate lies and smears against political opponents as part of the job, even as it may pertain to national security. Lying and smearing are not experience for the job, regardless of the stipulated depth of that experience. But then, it doesn't seem to specifically require good judgment, either.

Section 2. The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States; he may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices, and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.

He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments.

The President shall have power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate, by granting commissions which shall expire at the end of their next session.

Section 3. He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper; he shall receive ambassadors and other public ministers; he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission all the officers of the United States.

Section 4. The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

If I missed some reference to what Ms. Clinton is doing to achieve her "inevitable" goal, I'm sure you'll point it out. I don't think what she's doing is remotely justifiable in any way. Painting a falsified, cartoonish picture of an opponent's perceived qualifications is NOT national security. And Ms. Clinton is NOT the president.

[DangerousRhythm]

144. The President's REAL job...

"preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

THANK you for pointing that out, seriously. It bugs me so much when people get it wrong, and so many sadly do.

[dchill]

145. No problem - it bugs me, too.

I'm beyond sick of hearing a chimp who says his job as our "commander in chief" is to protect the Amurrkin people.

[woolldog]

16. wow

I take you at your word.

[grantcart]

17. I am stunned - you were so aggressive and passionate for her

I wonder how many others are thinking like you.

I know that this was a very very difficult move for you.

I hope that you will be able to support Senator Obama as vigorously as you did Sen. Clinton.

Thank you for your OP

[bicentennial_baby]

19. Wow...

:wow:

[slick8790]

Wow. It takes guts to admit when you disagree with something you've advocated so passionately for.

Congrats on being a better person than a lot of people on here, who can't admit when their candidate does something stupid.

I know you said in another post that you're not an Obama supporter either, but we're here if you want to join up in the cult :).

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

20. OK I guess not. n/t

[CitizenRob]

21. Seriously... what a traitor to our party Hillary is.

[barack the house]

22. Welcom to Team Obama. There is the specail VIP chair here for new voters. Can I get u a drink?

[SammyWinstonJack]

109. .

:eyes:

[eridani]

124. She's not there yet

How about a decent mourning period first?

[seabeyond]

23. not seen one leave obama, seen more and more leave hillary. when will supporters wake up

saying, i could have voted for her if she one prior to monday. by wednesday, observing all this stuff.... i will walk from politics if she wins. become one of those uninformed, .... as i grow old.

[Alexander]

24. Wow. I'm stunned. Thanks!

Nice to see former Hillary supporters being reasonable about this.

[mudesi]

25. You, and everyone else

She is turning everyone against her now with her despicable tactics.

[anigbrowl]

28. Rally! I'm surprised. Wel..

I know how that feels, so I suggest maybe taking a day o two out to think things over and decide how you feel about the race. Being in an echo chamber like DU (or even watching TV a lot) can get in the way of personal reflection.

[peoli]

29. Why is she torturing us till April 22?

She will lose tomorrow, lose Mississippi making her already impossible chances of winning even more impossible. Is she just staying in to shit on the democratic party for 40 days? Does she think if she wins 5 delegates in Pennsylvania that anyone is going to guve a fuck? What is her fucking point already? When can she move ahead? WHEN?

[nomaco-10]

30. I hear her in the background on msnbc.....

using her fake southern accent in a clip from a recent speech in Ms. Her voice sounds like somebody taking their fingernails and raking them across a chalkboard.

[eridani]

125. Can we dispense with this nonsense?

The issue here is her quasi-endorsement of McCain.

[lligrd]

31. Wow, Maybe There Is Hope After All

So who will you support then?

[Greyskye]

32. I echo others in this thread

That must have been a difficult decision for you.

I sincerely hope that Obama won't disappoint you.

[joeprogressive]

34. I believe the reasonable HRC supporters are the exception not the norm

and these defections will continue to occur. Welcome and good on ya.

[Fredda Weinberg]

35. HRC will use the national security issue to win the election. Good luck

with your candidate.

[anonymous171]

36. LOL! Let's see her try to win against "War hero" McCain.

That'll work. :sarcasm:

[Fredda Weinberg]

42. * discovered how easy it is to destroy McCain. Keep your sarcasm

I'm dead serious.

[anonymous171]

46. I know you are. But Bush used race baiting tactics and very immoral push polls to do that.

Would you condone the Hillary's use of those techniques against him?

[Fredda Weinberg]

57. HRC won't need to stoop that low, Dr Powers notwithstanding

But when it comes to prevailing in this election, I want the candidate who will not hesitate to hurt feelings. The United States is not a nice country - and I've seen nice presidents get us in deep trouble.

[anonymous171]

70. I respect your descision.

After seeing her attack Obama, I have no doubt she would tear McCain apart, or at least make him so angry that he tears himself apart. But I'm voting my hopes and for the future, not just for the repug ass kicking.

[Fredda Weinberg]

75. I felt the same way ... too many times. This time, I see success and don't

mind the compromises I know are required.

Wading through five feet of snow, I did what I could against Raygun ... but years later, I see what Carter didn't give the nation that we need. There's no sense condemning what is ... life doesn't require justification.

[JackORoses]

86. Hillary will not be in the 2008 Election.

But I'm sure she would be glad to have you standing in the streets for her next Senate run.

[SoFlaJet]

39. read this thread too AGirl

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4952032

[Catherina]

44. It's great seeing people waking up everyday

I'm so glad I found this place.

Thank you AGirl. Welcome to the Obama team.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

50. Read post # 4. n/t

[Catherina]

105. Thanks. A premature but heartfelt welcome anyway. n/t

[Sebass1271]

55. Welcome to DU!!.

I have been a member for years.. but never really posted.. I just read the member's opinions and insight figting.. until recently i started posting..
DU has been my second home and a place where I did not feel alone in 2000 after the coup against Gore.

[seabeyond]

76. well i have been enjoying you. isnt that interesting..... totally forget

people being a part, yet not around to be seen. lol. who would think to sit back and listen, and not mouth off, lol.

i was alone in conservative, religious belt panhandle of texas in 2000. was so thrilled to find du winter of 2004, to walk the election on du

[Sebass1271]

83. That is funny

That's all i have done.. sit back and read for years. I registered years ago, forgot/ misplaced my password. I resent an e-mail to the admns asking for my password again. I began posting b/c I could not stayed quiet anymore. What Hillary has been doing to our party is outright despicable, and I voted for the woman!.

It is a shame. Iam glad your here too and that you finally saw the light from the right wing world. :toast:

[Catherina]

103. Thanks for making this one of your rare posts

I wish I'd found this place in 2000 because I felt so alone too and no one understood. I can't believe 8 years went by so quickly. I seems like I was sobbing over Bush just yesterday. It's really nice of you to post that, thanks.

[eridani]

126. Let's allow a decent mourning period pls. kthx n/t

[LittleClarkie]

47. There are things I can't defend re: Obama, and support him in spite of

I commend you for your honesty.

[MadBadger]

48. As Somebody who is a bitter Obama partisan and has faked not supporting Obama..I'm suspicious.

[AGirl]

56. I didn't say I support Obama....I just lost a candidate whom i can support..

[woolldog]

67. you'll warm up to him

I have a spare robe in the closet...why don't you try it on for size? just to see how it fits?

:rofl:

[seabeyond]

60. well shame on you. not a fan of lie, pretend, mirepresent, games.... oh the games.

anyway... yours to do certainly. i prefer to take what is given. hurts me not.

[bleowheels]

49. I can just hear the Hillary supporters now, "Please do not go toward the light."

Everyday, more of Hillary supporters are "seeing the light." Thank you for taking an objective view of this very important process of selecting the Democratic nominee for President.

[Cant trust em]

51. stinks that we had a good candidate that has turned so many people sour

I was always an Obama supporter and positive on Clinton. Now I genuinely dislike her. Sucks when a good Dem goes bad.

[seabeyond]

64. i WAS ok with her too. n/t

[SoFlaJet]

88. we ALL loved and defended her Can't trust 'em

for years-but to see the way she is attacking the democratic frontrunner in this way is going WAY over the line

[Cant trust em]

90. It is continually shocking to me to see so many people apologize for her behavior

I'm an Obama supporter, but I'll call out his gaffes. A lot of people on DU will become apologists for anything. Seems like DU is being overrun by paid operatives.

Edit: To be fair, there are Obama supporters who are apologists as well.

[SoFlaJet]

92. I have been saying that there were operatives

from the Clinton campaign here since December-and they were called on it pretty quick-they think we're stupid people here who don't know or can't tell when it's a sell-job-they underestimated us for sure

[David Zephyr]

52. K&R. I would hope that you would consider helping Senator Obama.

We need your voice.

No one was a bigger supporter of the Clintons that I was. I voted for Bill at two national conventions as a delegate from California, AGirl. I loved the guy and I loved Hillary. I don't hate them, but I don't see them as the agents of change that I've waited my entire life for. Maybe Obama will fall short, but I'm willing to give him a chance.

And regardless of anything else, your post shows reals humility, true grace and decency and I was blown away by it.

It took me all of 2007 to make my mind up not to support the Clintons. I sat out the entire year and felt foolish because I couldn't make my decision. I wanted to support the Clintons, but just couldn't.

K&R.

[AGirl]

71. Thank you. That is a very flattering post.

I am seriously blushing. I don't deserve it. I am sorry to hear about your experience, politics can be disappointing, I tolerate many things that I disagree with the Clinton, but Hillary has crossed the line and she has shown that she really will say *anything* to get elected.

[seabeyond]

79. true grace and decency and I was blown away by it.... ah that is beautiful

lol lol. after all the fighting, bring tears to my eyes. lol. that was nice.

[grantcart]

94. I appreciate your clear and thoughtful statement

[boston bean]

54. You are falling for the hype. That is not what she meant, she is drawing

a comparison of how she will be a better presidential candidate vs. obama.

But hey, you gotta do what you gotta do. c'est la vie

[AGirl]

63. She has every right to say she is a better presidential candidate

but she crossed the line by implying that McCain is ready to be a commander in chief, she must not care about the Iraq war too much if she is so freaking okay with McCain.

[boston bean]

72. she never said that, and you are buying into something that isn't true.

Hillary is going to bring the troops home, McCain is not.

McCain is going to go after Obama on experience and kill him with a thousand tiny cuts. He can't even handle Hillary saying it. This is what Hillary is trying to convey.

She is not endorsing McCain. He has experience, and Obama does not and that is the plain truth.

[AGirl]

77. She could have said Obama is weak on national security without praising McCain.

That is what I am saying.

[boston bean]

93. she wasn't praising McCain. She is critical of him. She is drawing

a comparison for the general election.

Did it bother you when O uses RW talking points regarding healthcare, a core dem principle

Does it bother you when O says Hillary won't get his voters?

This is a hard fought election, where things from both sides get said.

The thing that gets me is Obama isn't saying anything about this, just the bias media talking heads.

[Cooley Hurd]

59. She's my Senator and I've campaigned/voted for her in the past....

...but I can honestly say I will have a VERY hard time doing so in 2012 after witnessing how she's run her Presidential campaign. If she has a Dem challenger, they will likely have my vote. It PAINS me to say so, but her campaign's behavior in the last few weeks has been abominable!:thumbsdown:

[femmedem]

61. Welcome! I was an Edwards supporter, and it took me a while

to decide. The differences in how they are running their campaigns did have an impact on my decision. For me, it started with the Nevada caucuses. But until the red phone ad and the McCain comments I would have been happy with either of them.

I do also appreciate the organizational skills Obama is demonstrating with his campaign.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

62. I understand your concern

I don't like Clinton or Obama, but either would be better than 4 more years of GOP. That is why it is vital that the repukes not be given any ammo to use against us in November.

[jlake]

66. Very suspicious.

[SammyWinstonJack]

111. Ya think?

[jackson_dem]

68. The audacity of thinking national security doesn't matter

No wonder 0bamites think 0bama is the most electable. They think national security won't be an issue in the general election. 0bama will just "hope" terrorism away.

[kid a]

78. This Obamite knows it will be an issue and knows Obama will be just fine.

Thanks yOU

I just don't get when Hillary supposedly crossed that famous threshold.

[cali]

127. Sure it will be an issue, but if you think it will be the issue, think again

and inform yourself of the disasterous economic news. In November that will be the top issue for the vast majority of voters- barring a national security disaster.

[FedoraLV]

80. It isn't an easy path

to become disenchanted with a candidate you once supported: all of us Dems have had that feeling, at some point, over the last 8 years.
:grouphug:


I hope you do what you feel comfortable with to help the party and downticket candidates with (D)'s after their names -- they will need your help in November, too.

-FedoraLV

[WillyT]

82. Wow... K & R !!!

:grouphug:

:toast:

[npincus]

84. Clearly, you're fucking with us.

Your thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4893352

oh my fucking god I Love HIllary!!
You go Girl!!!!!!!! Yes we WILL!!!!! wE FUCKING WILL!!!!

Dropping from the hieghts of ecstacy to disillusionment in 48 hours is a bit much. What are you up to?

[grantcart]

99. this is not helpful. I think she has been very sincere.

It is difficult when we get so invested in our candidate to move on. It is more difficult to switch while one seems more viable.

[npincus]

106. with all due respect

it's my judgement that something doesn't smell right- and I apologize if I am wrong. This poster passionately defended Hillary's McCain remark a day or so ago. There is an over-the-top quality to her effusiveness that makes this sudden epiphany suspect.

Sorry, I call them as I see them.

[hogwyld]

87. Bravo on your choice!

As a former Edwards supporter, I was willing to vote for either Hillary or Barack in the GE. I became an Obama supporter, but previously, could have voted for her if she won the nomination. These last couple of weeks have soured me deeply, and I don't think I could, in good conscience, pull the lever for her now. You have been a passionate, but fair supporter of your candidate, and appreciate your candor. I hope that you will decide to join us in changing the course of politics in this country, and make it a better world for all.:yourock:

[AZBlue]

89. I'm sorry!

Genuinely sorry - this is not sarcasm. I know you've supported Clinton and you've fought a good, clean fight for her here. It sucks to feel, I don't know, misled? To realize someone is not what you thought they were.

I'm an Obama supporter, but here's a little background on me: I actually was torn between Clinton and Obama for a long time, far longer than most people, especially here on DU. And, honestly, I was leaning a little more toward Clinton at first - for a long time I'd been looking forward to the possibility of her candidacy and when it actually happened it was exciting. But the more I got to know them both, the more I liked Obama better. Once I looked into his stances, his opinions, his background, what he's written, etc., I really became passionate about him - I really feel he's just what this country needed. But, I didn't have overly negative feelings about Clinton - at least not at first. The more I watched her campaign, the less I liked her, but she still had my respect for some things she's done as Senator and for her endurance during the Clinton administration.

Fast-forward to today. It's come to this: I can't reconcile the Clinton I thought I knew to the one I know today. Is this the real her and the other one was fake? I don't know her personally so I'll never know, but it's possible. Nonetheless, I am disappointed to see what is happening today. I feel a little let down and a bit misled.

So, I can only imagine how hard it is for you, for you were a far greater supporter for far longer than me.

So, again, genuinely, I am sorry! It sucks, to put it plainly!!

[eridani]

128. Wanting to be president really, really badly can do weird things to people

Not entirely sure of Obama on that score either.

[BeyondGeography]

91. Even if this proves to be temporary, you're right to hold her McCain smooch against her

and it takes some courage to make a statement like this.

[Yossariant]

95. You are one fickle poster. This is not your first back and forth.

Keep it to yourself to avoid looking more foolish.

[seabeyond]

100. bossy.... she doesnt have to can do as she pleases. n/t

[Yossariant]

104. Yeah, I find the ego threads on this board rather annoying. And I can say what I please, too.

[seabeyond]

108. yes you can, and you didnt see me telling you what to do. lol lol

[Recursion]

123. "Keep it to yourself" on a discussion board?

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"

[HCE SuiGeneris]

132. "Keep it to yourself to avoid looking foolish" You might heed your own advice...

[Raine]

96. WOW, that is a surprise

I know you're not supporting Obama but I certainly commend you for your openess in your change of mind.

[SoFlaJet]

97. how ANY dem could still support her after this I just do not know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BDqbPs27As

[EmilyAnne]

101. Wow! I know that must be really hard for you to say because, if I remember correctly, you

were very excited about her possible candidacy. I'm sorry that you are so disappointed with her. I am too. That is exactly why I am supporting Barack now. I always thought Hillary would be the first woman president. Now, I know we will get the first woman president someday soon. It just won't be her. I acknowledge that she has been victimized by a lot of sexism and unfair attacks, but that doesn't excuse the tone her campaign is taking.

Good luck to you, dear. Let's try to remain optimistic about beating McCain!

[0007]

102. I agree with ya AGirl.

[Metric System]

112. I'm shocked. SHOCKED! Not.

[TwilightGardener]

113. They're both politicians, neither are perfect, and both will fuck up and disappoint--

I have been disappointed with Obama too, at times, and I'm still not sure he's going to be the nominee after all is said and done. But it does take integrity to admit that your chosen candidate has crossed a line, and irreparably violated your standards. I applaud you.

[kevin881]

114. Kudos, much respect for your ability to have a ongoing decision making process. -nt

[Danger Mouse]

116. You're about the last person I'd have expected to see this from.

Proves I can be wrong about people.
I apologize for misjudging you.

[goldcanyonaz]

117. Okay Sybil.

[writes3000]

119. Oh Grow Up!

[angie_love]

130. Wow i'm shocked!

In a good way! way to go Agirl!

:wow:

[End Of The Road]

131. Looks like the Borg got ahold of AGirl

Resistance is futile.

[jpak]

133. You're not even a Democrat - by your own admission - why should we care???

I don't

:rofl:

[BootinUp]

134. God forbid she question his experience, pffft. nt

[THUNDER HANDS]

135. are you serious?

wow. You were a big hillary supporter too. I'm shocked.

[mculator]

136. You were already a BO supporter. What a joke OP

[angie_love]

140. No she wasn't! I've witnessed several of her anti-obama threads.

You're the joke! If A=girl is turned off by Hillarys disgusting little antics of late, i'm sure there are plenty more.

[bigtree]

137. oh, well

best of luck

[zulchzulu]

139. Thanks for that...but I'm sorry it had to come to this for you to change your mind

It is really sad to see Hillary Clinton stooping to such lows. When she endorsed McCain, all that did was make me absolute in my efforts to do anything to expose her as a traitor. What she did is no better than Lieberman after he lost and what Zell Miller did at the Republican Convention.

She knows it is mathematically impossible for her to win. She could concede and leave the race with style and class. But she can't, it seems.

It's too bad you had to come to your realization about her the way it's happened. There should have been a better way than to not be disgusted with a candidate's gutter politics.

[laban]

141. Peter Daou from Hillary Campain answers..

http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/blog/main/2008/03/07/214821#view_comments

I\'ve seen a number of blog posts criticizing Hillary for drawing a contrast on national security with Sen. Obama. The claim is that by suggesting that she and Sen. McCain cross the commander-in-chief threshold and that Sen. Obama should be asked about it, Hillary is undercutting Sen. Obama\'s prospects in a general election were he to become the nominee.

The hand-wringing on this is excessive. What Hillary is saying is that with Sen. McCain as the nominee, national security is the terrain that Republicans will play on. We saw it in 2004 and we\'ll see it again in 2008. Democrats know that. Winning in November means defeating John McCain and it is not only legitimate but essential for Hillary to make the case that she is the Democrat who can stand toe-to-toe with Sen. McCain on national security.

Now if you want an example of a false negative attack that provides fodder to the GOP, look no further than the Obama campaign\'s repeated allegation that Hillary will \"say anything\" to get elected. Hillary has demonstrated a lifelong commitment to core Democratic values and has fought tirelessly for the issues that matter to Democrats and progressives. To allege that she\'ll \"say anything\" to get elected when she has spent this entire campaign talking about universal health care, ending the Iraq war, and a host of critical issues and when she\'s made the case for why she thinks she can make America a better place for all of us, is to engage in a needless, unfounded character attack.

So my question to fellow bloggers is this: if drawing a contrast on national security is so destructive to a candidate in a general election, how does it help to make the patently false claim that your Democratic opponent will \"say anything\" to get elected?

[BootinUp]

142. Exactly correct. nt

[yourguide]

143. blah blah blah

I love how he dismisses the bloggers with : The hand-wringing on this is excessive.

That whole camp sucks.

[krkaufman]

146. Hillary's "Commander-in-Chief threshold" is apparently based on ....

... both she and McCain voting for and supporting Bush's invasion of Iraq, and also supporting the Kyl/Lieberman amendment war-mongering against Iran.

[joshcryer]

148. I just had a heart attack, wow.