I won't name names, but some of you Obamacans

[TheDebbieDee]

are starting to become "unhinged"!

You claim Hillary "endorsed" McCain.

You claim Hillary is a "traitor".

You want everyone to send e-mails to the MSM and insist on Hillary firing Wolfson for his Ken Starr remark.

Some of you are real basket cases!

[SoFlaJet]

1. and you as a democrat approve

of what she said about her and McCain having the experience and all Obama has is a speech? That's OK with you Debbie? A DEMOCRATIC candidate for president saying that about the DEMOCRATIC frontrunner? That's OK?

[tridim]

8. Apparently everything Hillary does is "OK".

She can do no wrong, never ever never. Yet Obama supporters are nuts?

[redqueen]

11. Yes, we're the cultists.

:crazy:

[charlie]

51. *cough* cultists *cough*

From a Pew survey a week ago:

A quarter of Democrats (25%) who back Clinton for the nomination say they would favor McCain in a general election test against Obama. The defection rate among Obama’s supporters if Clinton wins the nomination is far lower; just 10% say they would vote for McCain in November, while 86% say they would back Clinton.

http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/398.pdf

1 in 4 will vote for McCain. Not Nader. Not the Greens, not Biden, Kucinich, or Gravel.

McCain.

And these are Clinton Dems at large, not the partisans in our overheated DU nuthouse.

[redqueen]

52. That is fucking scary. (nt)

[charlie]

59. Yep

It turns out it's not the Obamites who are willing to burn the country down around our ears for their Messiah. The cult charge is just another instance of the sort of projection and perpetual aggrievance we've endured from the Right for decades.

[redqueen]

61. SO much projection.

It's really astounding.

[VolcanoJen]

67. Jesus.

What?!

And I've been spending all my time here today bitching about crossover wingnuts who voted for Hillary in Ohio?

That is actually staggering. That actually feels like a punch in the gut.

[charlie]

71. You know it

Ironically, I wouldn't have seen it if one of our most hyperpartisan Clintonistas hadn't dragged in an article showing an African American would lose 20% of the Dem vote. She'd read the article, but not the full report. I posted the data about capricious Clinton Dems, but of course she dismissed it as irrelevant to her theme that a black couldn't be president.

[jackson_dem]

17. Who cares? McCain said Romney wasn't qualified, Paul said Giuliani wasn't

It happens in politics. Anyone who runs against the least experienced presidential candidate ever is going to make experience an issue. 0bamanation is naive if they think McCain wouldn't have made it an issue if only Hill did not make that statement.

[SoFlaJet]

20. yea but you NEVER say

the opponent OF YOUR OWN PARTY is more qualified....EVER

[jackson_dem]

28. It doesn't matter. You can't wish away Obama and McCain's resumes

Everyone knows he has far more experience than the man vying to be the least experienced president ever. Obama can't win on experience. He has to make the same case that Bush made in 2000: just trust me to do a good job!

[miceelf]

35. Please

Tell us of Clinton's extensive "experience" and how it measures up to McCain's.

[Spiffarino]

42. While he's at it, tell us of BILL Clinton's massive experience

Bill was governor of a small state and nothing else. Hillary is a two-term Senator. It's the only elected office she's held.

This is such bullshit and it needs to stop. Hillary is going down in flames if she keeps up this idiotic "experience" meme.

[roguevalley]

36. experience at what? Stealing from savings and loans? Cheating

on his wife? Hanging out with lobbyists? Being President? which thing is it? I remember that Bill Clinton had the same experience with national affairs and international affairs as Obama. How about that?

[jackson_dem]

38. 0bama served six terms as governor?

Let's get real. In the real world 0bama has a huge problem in that he is vying to be the least experienced president ever.

[Spiffarino]

50. Let's see...

- Abraham Lincoln was a one-term Congressman from Illinois and had four terms as an Illinois State Legislator.
- George Washington never held elected office until he became President.
- Bill Clinton was governor of the (small) state of Arkansas.
- Hillary Clinton has been a US Senator for seven years. She also slept in the White House.
- Barack Obama is a 3 1/2-term State Senator and five-year US Senator. He didn't sleep in the White House.

Yeah, I guess he's really got a huge problem there.

[jackson_dem]

66. A thread was posted to compare the experience of all 43 presidents

0bamanation was conspicuous in its absence...

:rofl: at comparing Obama to Lincoln and Washington (the general who fathered the nation. He didn't just give 1 speech!). Clinton was governor for 12 years which is quite substantial.

[Spiffarino]

73. OK

Are you :rofl: at Bill Clinton being included with them, too? As an economic powerhouse, doesn't Arkansas rank somewhere in the neighborhood of the Shetland Islands or Burkina Faso?

Oh, and thanks for the link to the post you mentioned. That's really doin' your due diligence there, partner. How are we supposed to shoot it down if you won't toss it up? Are you scared that it's going to come down full of holes?

[roguevalley]

57. He had as much exposure to national and international affairs

as obama as a legislator. Jeez.

[LaurenG]

49. That isn't the point, so what, McCain has more experience than Clinton

Do you agree that it would be fine for Obama to kiss up to the republicans by saying the same things she has said? People on this board would have gone NUTS if that had been reversed. So what if it's politics as usual it's WRONG, imo.

When will we start to understand that the line has to be drawn somewhere?

[redqueen]

62. Come on now... imagine if Romney had said Clinton was more qualified

than the Democratic nominee (if one had been inevitable at that point)?

*sigh*

I can't believe this... I really can't.

[roguevalley]

34. jackson_dem, they are all in the same party. and, it gives McCain

commercials. you never EVER spit on your own.

[SoFlaJet]

37. Look Jackson Dem

SHE WAS FUCKING WRONG OK? Nothing can justify what she said as being all fine and dandy...she fucked up 3 times and is starting to pay the price and is getting called on it

[jackson_dem]

43. That's politics

0bama has said plenty of negative things about Hill, McCain about Romney and vice versa. If 0bama is so sensitive about having no experience he should have kept his promise to Illinois and served a term before running for president.

[Spiffarino]

53. No other Democrat touted McCain's experience

...over another Democrat's.

How stupid is that? I don't want a Democrat who has more respect for a tainted Republican than a decent Democrat. Especially a Republican who joked about her child being "ugly." Is her ambition so blind that she would shit all over the Democratic Party to use John McCain as a wedge against Obama?

I was positive about Hillary for a very long time, but now I'm done with her. I can't abide somebody who would side with a Republican over a Democrat because she thinks it will help her get elected. It may be politics, but it's not leadership.

[roguevalley]

56. agreed spifarino. die hards will just have to watch her get worse and worse.

[Sulawesi]

2. whatever...spin away...

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

3. Flipping out over the monster comment: OK

Flipping out over Hillary complementing our republican opponent over her fellow democrat: BAD

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. We can all watch the video.

Who are we supposed to believe? You, or our own lying eyes?

[cui bono]

5. So you really think her actions are okay?

How do you defend them? Without bringing Obama or his supporters into it. (I'm not one of them so spare me the insults.)


edited to fix typos. Don't want to give any reasons for distractions from the defense.

[Joe the Revelator]

6. So you approve of:

Hillary's endorsement of herself over McCain

Hillary's double standard when it comes to remarks to the media

Hillary's inability to run as a democrat and her need to use the Rove playbook?

And we're the ones coming unhinged?

:rofl:

[C_U_L8R]

7. you might want to get out of our way

we're pissed
and we're not stopping until your candidate is defeated.
Obama may be above the frey, but we're not.
Hillary is playing dirty politics on US
and we're no going to stand for it.
we are the frey and we're that pissed.

[Jersey Devil]

9. no, yes, yes, yes, no

You are dismissed. Don't forget your milk money for Monday.

[Sal316]

10. She should fire Wolfson.

Comparing Obama to Ken Starr was absolutely uncalled for.

My question is....

....why the flip flop on tax returns? She demanded Lazio release his and Obama asking for hers is somehow out of bounds?

I'm sorry. She's wrong here.

Plain and simple.

[Kittycat]

12. So you support HRC making a Lieberman of herself then?

And you are the basket case. Everyone is against poor wittle hillary. Give me a fucking break. Soon you're going to run out of states, voters, delegates, super delegates, and the entire liberal/progressive news media. Because yes, even the progressive media can see hillary for what she is. A democrat in Lieberman's clothing.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

18. Lieberman seems somewhat tame compared to Hillary with some of the Rovian antics she's pulled.

[cui bono]

21. Yeah, I never thought I could say that that's an insult to Lieberman!!!

[Texas Hill Country]

25. calling her tactics Rovian is blatant over exaggeration.

[PerfectSage]

70. I'm Hillary Lieberman and I approve this message.

:rofl:

[jackson_dem]

13. It is even funnier since they claim "it is all over"

Why have they want bonkers since March 4 if it is all over?

[seabeyond]

14. yawl are the one gleefully proud of your dirty politics thread. i have been told by a number of you

that dirty poltics, lying, scamming, spinnin, attack, bullying is GOOD politics. so whats the bitch. oh.... i mean bitch as in complain, not as in sexist to you candidate because she is a woman

[rurallib]

15. Hi! I am not an Obamacan. I am not an early Obama supporter

But if you think that statement Hillary made about McCain 3 times isn't going to be replayed about a million times this fall you are in another world.
If it wasn't an endorsement, it was the closest thing to it. If saying the lead moron for the opposition is ready to lead is not being a traitor it is the next thing to it.
I had been fairly mellow until that. What in the fucking hell is she thinking?

[MoonRiver]

16. I love threads like this!

They're a great way to flush out more people to put on my ignore list!
:rofl:

[SoFlaJet]

23. yea pretty soon it's be you

Maddy OPERATIONMINDNUMB and papau all left to talk to each other

[TheDebbieDee]

68. That's exactly why I posted it. Bu-whahahahahahaha!

I'm genius.....

[SoCalDem]

19. Mirrors work for Clinton supporters too..

at least I THINK they do :rofl:

[Cooley Hurd]

26. Evidently, NOT in this case...

:D

[yourguide]

22. blah blah blah

name names.

Ken Starr is a far worse insult than monster in my book.

[Bucky]

24. Are we actually becoming unhinged, or are we just becoming "unhinged"?

Am I a basket case or just a "basket case"? I "need" you to "clarify" that for "me".

[casus belli]

27. LOL!

Reminds me of a Chris Farley skit.

I’m not “camera friendly”
I “scare small children”
I don’t “wear deodorant”
I’ve got a “slight weight problem”

[Exilednight]

29. WAAAAAAAA NO ONE LOVES HILLARY WAAAAAAAA - I'll CALL YOU NAMES WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[thoughtcrime1984]

30. "Monster"

lol

[Swamp Rat]

31. "Obamacans?" - Is this Freeptard Republic yet?

[MH1]

41. Funny what gets locked on this board, and what doesn't, no?

[Swamp Rat]

48. Well, I don't think DUers should be calling Clinton supporters "Clintonistas" either.

The circular firing squad is making the circle smaller and smaller and smaller... ;)

[AntiFascist]

45. BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

This is what the Hillarians are devolving toward.

[KAZ]

46. And that's the women in the group! Well, the young ones anyway.

[Name removed]

32. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Yael]

33. So you approve of Hillary Rove McClinton 2.0 tactics?

[CitizenRob]

39. You forgot to fit Lieberdork in there.

[casus belli]

40. I think we're up to Version 2.14, you miss some updates? n/t

[Yael]

58. I saw the memo, didn't have time to download the service pack yet.

[surfin]

44. Would you fire Wolfson for another thing he did

He dress up like Uncle Sam and led a group to protest Rick Lazio for not releasing his tax returns. Wonder what you would post if a key person did that to slick hilly?

[corkhead]

47. so what is the point of your senseless flamebait?

[Yael]

60. To point out RAMPANT SEXISM!!!!!11!!1

or something like that.

[Spiffarino]

54. Hillary needs to backdafuckoff.

Cozying up to a Republican - a Republican who, by the way, joked that her teenage daughter was ugly - is a mortal sin for a Democrat.

Lieberman is finished in the Democratic party because he decided power was more important than principles. Hillary has gone down the same road. If she doesn't turn around and fix it, she's over.

[GoldieAZ49]

55. Obamacans are what Obama calls republicans that support him

no wonder they would consider what Hillary said an endorsement

[TheDebbieDee]

63. "Endorsed" and "Traitor" must be the

"We hate Hillary" group's attack meme/words of the week. It seems just about every third thread in DU:P has "endorsed" or "traitor" used in conjunction with Hillary's name in the title.

You Obamacans should really stop letting these repuke marketers play you..........

[Raine]

64. "Obamacans" when you start out like that

why would anyone here be interested in anything you have to say. :-(

[PetraPooh]

65. You sound like the neocons we hate because they can't see reality in front of them

[LaurenG]

69. Debbie, does your own "comment" in your user profile mean anything to you?

"The current state of the country is what seven years of being polite and civil with repukes gets ya!"

So it's OK for Senator Clinton to praise McCain and treat him kindly and civilly yet stab a fellow democrat in the back? :eyes:

[VotesForWomen]

72. the irrational, pure hatred of O supporters is surprising, even to political veterans. nt