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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:55 PM
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In 2004, when John Kerry asked McCain to be his running mate, did you try to kick him out of the Dem
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:58 PM
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1. I'm not sure how many of the O-newbies remember back that far...
They certainly don't remember the "Longest Peacetime Expansion" of the Clinton Miracle Economy in the 90s.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:59 PM
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2. Was McCain the GOP nom for president?
These are different times.
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:02 PM
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7. That's not relavant. The point is that she said that McCain has
experience. OHGMY! It's true. He does.

And Obama said that he liked some things about Reagan.

I say, get over it.

Vote for person you like. Campaign for them if you want. But they have both praised some aspects of the other side. Big whoop.

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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:03 PM
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10. Keep spinning it that way
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 02:04 PM by anigbrowl
the public doesn't believe 2+2=5.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:02 PM
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8. Hmmm..."different"...how many times has that word been used
to justify a BO's supporter's position that can't be justified?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:06 PM
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17. At least as many times as needed.
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:00 PM
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3. For the good of the Country Kerry might have thought
about a unity ticket to beat *.

Big difference in Hillary so desperately seeking power that she would destroy the Country to get it.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:04 PM
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14. For the record - I actually thought it was a good thing at the time.
But Kerry did it as a way to win...not really that much different.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:00 PM
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4. That story is complete BS floated by McCain. The thing is, you know it. Desperate!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:01 PM
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6. Oh yeah, McCain wants this floated...sure helps him with his base...
...it was a real consideration...deal with it.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:04 PM
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11. McCain was trying to suck up to Independents and Democrats. He's a pig! n/t
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:04 PM
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12. Prosense you are a bad ass
I knew that story was false, good job
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 03:04 PM
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22. Here's McCain today still trying to lie about the incident, gets pissed off when he's caught lying

McCain flashes temper at reporter

<...>

Afterward, on a campaign flight, Bumiller said she looked in the Times' archives and that McCain had denied talking with Kerry in a May 2004 story.

McCain interrupted, saying that everyone knew he had a private conversation, and he kept interrupting as she tried to follow up. McCain clearly was irate.

"I don't know what you read or heard of, and I don't know the circumstances," McCain said. "Maybe in May of '04 I hadn't had a conversation."

Did he recall the conversation? "I don't know, but it's well-known that I had the conversation. It's absolutely well-known by everyone. So do you have a question on another issue?"

Asked again about the conversation, McCain said, "No. No. Because the issue is closed, as far as I'm concerned. Everybody knows it. Everybody knows it in America."

Could he describe the conversation? "No, of course not," McCain said. "I don't describe private conversations. Why should I? Then there's no such thing as a private conversation."

McCain is known for having a temper and has been dubbed "Senator Hothead" by more than one publication.


Bumiller: “Okay. Can I ask you about your (pause) Why you’re so angry?”

McCain: “Pardon me?”

Bumiller: “Nevermind, nevermind.”

McCain: “I mean, it’s well known. Everybody knows. It’s been well chronicled a thousand times. John Kerry asked if I would consider being his running mate.”

Bumiller: “Okay.”

McCain: “And I said categorically no, under no circumstances. That’s very well known.”

The 2004 New York Times piece in question ends in this way: "If Mr. McCain is offered the vice-presidential spot, people close to Mr. Kerry say, the request will come from the candidate himself and not through the campaign's vice-presidential vetting process."

"Asked if Senator Kerry had made such an offer, Mr. McCain said no without hesitation. But asked if the two men had ever discussed it, even casually, he paused for a moment. 'No,' he said finally. 'We really haven't.'"

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:01 PM
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5. He didn't offer it to him. He said he would IF McCain changed parties. That's a big IF.
Please get the story straight.

McCain has also moved RIGHTWARD over the last 4 years.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:03 PM
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9. Even that comment was made years before the 2004 race. n/t
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:09 PM
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18. Calm down - I never said this was a bad thing.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:13 PM
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19. I just asked for ACCURACY. That's all. Accuracy isn't a bad thing.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:04 PM
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13. Kerry never asked McCain to be his RM.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:05 PM
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16. Are you sure about that?
I posted a link for you to read.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:14 PM
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21. I love Helen Thomas, but she offers no support for her story
She doesn't even cite "unnamed sources". And, at least according to Kerry, she got it wrong -- he says McCain's people approached him.

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:05 PM
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15. McCain wasn't the Repo nominee, and Kerry didn't ask him on TV. Why do you think?
Hillary should be kicked out.

He and Zell are two peas in a pod!
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:13 PM
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20. He didn't ask McCain anything of the sort.
That story was floated by the media and blogs just like the Obama/Clinton ticket is being floated now.
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