The Ghost of Benedict Arnold endorses Hillary Clinton

[zulchzulu]

HELL (AP) - Benedict Arnold, known historically as a turncoat and traitor in American History, has appeared as a ghost to enthusiastically endorse Hillary Clinton. It is not known whether he is actually endorsing the junior Senator from New York for President, but rather just is endorsing her for her endorsing the Democratic opponent John McCain. "Betrayal for personal gain is something I admire in Hillary's tactics", said Benedict Arnold's ghost.

Benedict Arnold had already been betraying the United States when he contacted the British General Sir Henry Clinton at West Point in 1780, so he is familiar with the Clinton tendency to betray, lie and sell out one's soul for personal gain.

"Having turned over strategies to a Brit named Clinton back in my day and seeing how Hillary Clinton carries that family name tradition, I just couldn't resist supporting someone who is probably even worse than me", said Benedict Arnold's ghost.

[YOY]

1. and the ghost of Benedict Arnold Drummond...

Oh wait he's a fictitious character played by a still living mustachioed actor...



It's sad that terrible one liners from bad 80s sitcoms still live on in my mind...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmfH1RsxWEc&feature=related

[TheDebbieDee]

2. The ghost of Ronald Reagan is using the empty suit that is

Sen. Barack Obama to talk us into buying 4 years of slogans and chants instead of real action.

[zulchzulu]

4. How does a First Lady without security clearance get "presidential experience"?

Is it Bimbo patrol? She failed at that too.

Monica walked right past her and into Bill's office to do her job, no pun intended.

[TheDebbieDee]

6. Don't try to get me off my message!

I stated that Sen. Obama will give us nothing but slogans and chants for 4 years and your reply is about Monica and Bimbo Patrol? You sound desperate!

[zulchzulu]

20. You can't be serious

Obama WILL get a lot more done for the Democratic Party than the Clintons... they're old news. Ferchrissakes, Hillary endorsed the Republican in the race. What more do you need to see in terms of desperation?

[death to the DLC]

7. look out,

Hillary will be demanding that you resign your post at DU next.

:)

[Benhurst]

3. What a great post.

It's bound to help in bring this divided party together.

But just what does all Obama's reach out, touchie-feelie crap mean, when it isn't even directed at fellow Democrats?

[zulchzulu]

5. Hillary Clinton has endorsed our opponent in the election

She deserves anything coming back at her from REAL Democrats.

Hillary only cares about herself. Period.

[Benhurst]

9. Link? All I heard her say was McCain had more experience.

Hell, most of the senators and members of the House of Representatives have more experience than Barack Obama. George Bush definitely does. So?
That's just a statement of fact.

Hillary with just one term in the Senate and part of another one, is pushing it a bit in my opinion to be running on "experience." But Barack Obama would justifiably be a laughingstock if he attempted to do so.

There are a lot of things I hold against Hillary Clinton. Making a statement of fact is not one of them. John McCain has far more experience than Barack OBama. Remember that the next time you hear Obama's supporters on DU make fun of him for being so old.

[zulchzulu]

13. Here are the words of a turncoat and a traitor to our Democratic Party

These are Hillary Clinton's own words:

" never been president, but he will put forth his lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002."

"I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience that he will bring to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002."

"Of course, well, you know, I've got a lifetime of experience. Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience. And you know, Senator Obama's whole campaign is about one speech he made in 2002."

http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/hillary-again-says-three-more-times.html

[Benhurst]

16. Harsh; but not untrue.

If Obama gets the nomination, it's better for this to be aired now than in the general election, not that that was Clinton's motivation for making such a statement.

Obama's lack of experience is a legitimate issue. It can't be denied. It's a fact. If the issue is hashed out now, so much the better. The American public has trouble holding a thought between commercials. If it's brought up again during the general campaign, it will be a roll-your-eyes, here-we-go-again moment, despite its being grounded in the truth.

People tend forget that when the Alzheimer's-ridden Reagan responded to Mondale with "there you go again," Mondale's points were totally legitimate. But the great American public was all too willing to side with the Gipper's cute response than consider the merits of the charge. Serious thought is sooooooooooo boring.

On this, Clinton is inadvertently doing Obama a favor, as long as he manages to get the nomination.

Thanks for the link.

:hi:

[zulchzulu]

17. So you agree that Obama's 8 years as State Senator and 4 as Senator...

...is just "a speech"?

Do you REALLY think that?

As for "experience" and the love of such a vacuous definition, you must really admire Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld.

As for "experience", does Hillary Clinton's voting for Bush's war and lack of ANY security clearances as First Lady amount to "experience" to be proud of?

Obama is actually MORE experienced if you count legislative experience than Hillary Clinton. It seems math is not a good skill for Hillaryworlders, but when you add 8 years as State Senator (with many accomplishments) and 4 years as Senator, that comes to the number 12. When you have 8 years as Senator with Hillary Clinton, you come up 4 years SHORT.

If you can convince me that 8 is a bigger number than 12, I'll support Hillary. Otherwise, you can support a turncoat and liar and have to be able to sleep at night.

[Benhurst]

18. That was a catty way for her to phrase it; but, hey, this is a campaign.

And by exaggerating it, she actually diminished the effectiveness of her charge.

As a native of Illinois who grew up knowing many members of the Illinois House and Senate, I am not overly impressed with time spent there. According to my friends who still live there, the political culture, if anything, has deteriorated since I left. And two years spent in the U.S. Senate (Obama himself has said starting in 2007 most of his attention has been focused on his presidential bid) is not much of a platform from which to launch a presidential campaign, but neither is seven, for that matter.

I hardly want to encourage you or anyone else to support Hillary for the nomination, anymore than I am encouraging others to support Barack. In the corporate-media-driven times in which we live, I think our best candidates have long since left the field and others with great potential, perhaps more wisely, never entered it.

The level of discussion in this campaign has had more in common with American Idol than historic confrontations such as the Lincoln-Douglas Debates. Since 9/11 our Constitution and Bill of Rights have been shredded, historic rights such as that of Habeas Corpus abolished, and we continue an illegal and immoral war, all supported by votes from our two remaining candidates. But, shh! such things should not discussed. The process has degenerated into a media-driven farce of posturing.

Nevertheless, when it comes to the general election, anything which manages to float to the top will be far superior to John McCain, despite his long record of experience.

[zulchzulu]

19. A real campaign doesn't have one opponent endorsing the other party's candidate

That is unprecedented. Find me ANY other Presidential campaign where a candidate felt a need to endorse the nominee of the other party over his/her opponent.

Maybe back in the Medieval times perhaps...or in some junior high French Club election...but for President of the United States?

She is nothing but an enemy of my party at this point. She is driven to win for the sake of winning and now that she sees the mathematical impossibility, she is willing to find comfort with the enemy over her own side.

I will drum this message as much as I can. It's like finding someone with a bucket of gasoline and a rag about to light up a packed theater and doing nothing about it.

[Benhurst]

21. Her so-called endorsement won't matter once the general election

gets underway.

But McCain will point to Obama's lack of experience because it is a fact. It will probably be one of the few things Rove and company will be able to come up with which is based on the truth. And it will probably be one of their less effective arguments. The truth never works as well in their hands as a good lie, such as John Kerry's "disgraceful" military history. The Big Lie is one of the Republican's most effective tools.

Would you have been so upset if Clinton had said, and such things are said in campaigns, that Obama was stupid? I doubt it; because, whatever his faults, he is obviously not dumb.

I think this has upset you only in so far as it is too close to the mark. His inexperience IS a negative. But it is a negative which probably won't work much to his disadvantage in a year when the electorate is disillusioned with the powers that be. "Hope" and "Change" will probably trump "Experience" in the general election as they have in the primaries.

If Obama is going to be successfully sandbagged, it will be his strengths which Rove will target, not his weaknesses. Gore was vilified for his legitimate contributions to the internet and his correctly identifying the threat of global warming. Remember Bush Senior calling him "Ozone" in the vice-presidential debates? And John Kerry, a legitimate war hero, was swift-boated running against a man who had gone A.O.L.

Obama's lack of experience will not be much of an issue, because it cuts both ways. The race card will be played, big time, but not in a way which will lead back to McCain, who is not himself a racist and will kept out of the loop by Rove and company if it is used. My guess -- and it is only a guess-- is that Obama's rhetorical abilities, which has been an asset in the primaries, will be used against him. I think Rove will try to frame the election as a choice between straight-talking war veteran John McCain and fast-talking, glib, pie-in-the-sky non-veteran Barack Obama. But I may be wrong. His attack will probably come from so far out in left field that I will be flabbergasted. We can only hope the party, assuming Obama is the nominee, won't be and will be ready to respond effectively.

[Texas Hill Country]

8. How horrible, small minded and insulting is this....

[zulchzulu]

10. If a Democratic candidate endorses the Republican opponent, what is that called?

It's called being a goddamn traitor. Tell me that it isn't.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

14. I agree.

Clinton endorsing McCain is horrible, small minded, and insulting; and so are the attempts from her supporters to apologize for it.

[JackORoses]

11. Benedict Clinton

[redstate_democrat]

12. Excellent!

kick!

[Barack_America]

15. Heh. This is a DUzy, IMO.

It's thoroughly naughty, but I love it!

[zulchzulu]

22. Traitress - female traitor

Hillary Clinton, more correctly, is a traitress. Please make a note of it.