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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:28 PM
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In this thread, try to defend Hillary's comments about McCain.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:29 PM
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1. Yawn!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:33 PM
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8. I love how he gives the stink eye to Lieberman
I'm glad you showed that one
it reveals you fence sitting, passive aggressive irrelevancy.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:40 AM
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22. Obama knows what "Stink Eye' is do you?


maka pilau

Look it up
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:59 AM
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28. Obama is such a Lieberman backer that Ned Lamont endorsed him
Nice try.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:11 AM
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37. That "Nice try crap doesn't work -lying like a McHillary-Lamont supports Obama
Ned Lamont supports Obama



Why I'm Supporting Barack Obama

Ned Lamont, January 10, 2008

When I decided to run for Senate, I did so because I deeply believed that the citizens of Connecticut were yearning to see fundamental changes in our politics – changes that would make government work for them again.

Today, with our Presidential primary in Connecticut less than a month away, I am announcing my support of Barack Obama for President because I am convinced that his forward-looking, progressive vision provides the best chance to enact meaningful reforms in the way Washington works.

Sen. Obama has the tone and temperament to bring out the best in our people and our nation, and to bring new coalitions together in support of the progressive policies we all want to see enacted. His campaign has already reflected this, not only by bringing hundreds of thousands of new voters of all ages to the polls, but by inspiring so many who are new to politics to become activists as well.

Making healthcare affordable for all Americans, rebuilding our aging infrastructure, and ending our dependence on foreign oil are all problems that require more than a tax credit here or an earmark there. Barack is the candidate best able to enact these big changes necessary to getting our country moving again.

We have seen that Sen. Obama has the wisdom and judgment to get the big decisions right – as he did on Iraq more than five years ago. And when President Obama steps out of Air Force One in countries around the world, he will represent a fresh start with friends and allies. He will end the war in Iraq, work for a comprehensive peace in the Middle East, and start investing in America again – and we will be safer and stronger for it.

We Democrats are fortunate to have had many strong candidates running for President. As you may know, I was proud to work hard for Chris Dodd during his campaign. I have the deepest respect and admiration for Sen. Dodd – especially for his powerful calls to defend our constitutional freedoms by restoring habeas corpus, closing Guantanamo, and living up to the spirit of the Geneva Conventions. I know that Sen. Obama, a former professor of Constitutional Law, has been and will continue to be Chris’ ally in fighting to protect our Constitution....snip
http://nedlamont.com/news/2256/why-im-supporting-barack-obama


Why do you people lie?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:13 AM
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39. Sorry, I was trying to address the cat person
I'm tired of these lies especially from these so fence sitters
that get away with passive aggressive crap.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:30 PM
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2. Can't.
:shrug:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:30 PM
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3. Theres no defending it
What she said was tantamount to treason of her own party.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:31 PM
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4. I think this will be a very short thread. n/t
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:31 PM
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5. She just wants Obama to lose the GE so she can run vs. Mccain in 2012. whats so wrong with that?
:sarcasm:
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:32 PM
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6. Tried this earlier.
I got two slimers trying to change the subject, and obama supporters.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:33 PM
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7. Give up, I've been doing this all day
The best they have is "well it's true!" or "she didn't really endorse him, she was just making an honest comparison".



You know dude, I can't believe after all this time we are finally on the same side of an issue. :toast:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:33 PM
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9. I'm sure if someone did, you wouldn't like the answer.
And who the fuck are you anyways?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:34 PM
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11. I'm Batman. n/t
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:38 PM
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15. I'm Spartacus!!!!!
and Hillary is the republicrat.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:25 AM
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43. Maybe if someone would, we could find that out! n/t
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:34 PM
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10. I Won't. Everybody Is Entitled To Their Own Opinion, Even If It's Unpopular
Hell, even if it's Obama!:)
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:34 PM
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12. Since you won't get many answers, want to take turns kicking
the thread?
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CitizenRob Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:08 AM
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36. kick
I for one want to know.
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:36 PM
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13. Kick
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:36 PM
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14. It is a political campaign. nt
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:08 AM
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16. So it would be OK to bring up Vince Foster? n/t
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:34 AM
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42. If he did, I would not whine.
But I am neutral between the two candidates at the moment. I will support whichever one wins.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:29 AM
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17. kick
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:31 AM
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18. can a BO supporter defend this endorsement of reagan
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 12:32 AM by judaspriestess
"I don't want to present myself as some sort of singular figure. I think part of what is different is the times. I do think that, for example, the 1980 election was different. I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it. They felt like with all the excesses of the 60s and the 70s and government had grown and grown but there wasn't much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating. I think he tapped into what people were already feeling. Which is we want clarity, we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing." - Obama

sounds like some serious man love for reagan gee who was a repuke last time I checked.

on edit: typo

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:38 AM
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21. Reagan almost won because of him!
lol
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:43 AM
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24. Especially when he is dead like McCain is
but living again in the Clinton Campaign.

Clinton endorsed McCain no one within their right mind will support that.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:58 AM
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27. Maybe Clinton can say in a debate that:
"Hey, I didn't claim that McCain and I had good kinds of experiences."

She set herself up for this one already with her faux-outrage over acknowledging Reagan's impact on the political landscape.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:07 AM
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34. For one thing, Reagan's dead
Two, Obama was not endorsing Reagan's policies. He was simply saying that Reagan had transformed the political landscape, which is a historical fact. He was positioning himself as someone who could do for the Democrats what Reagan did for the Republicans, building a new, broader coalition and a new consensus for an agenda, except this time, it would be a consensus for a progressive agenda.

If Clinton were potentially facing Ronald Reagan in the fall, I would agree that the statement was harmful despite its intent.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:34 AM
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19. Hmmm - crickets
I'll hang out for a while and wait for the Clinton supporters to 'splain this to me.

:popcorn:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:01 AM
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30. So far we've only seem one person pretend there is a reason.
We didn't hear the reason though.
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Chasing Dreams Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:37 AM
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20. Indefensible. Period.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:42 AM
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23. Whatever she does is okay, because she's a "fighter for the little guy."
Just look at all the things in the Clinton administration. She was responsible. Except the ones that were bad. She had nothing to do with those.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:45 AM
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25. If you love Joe Lieberman, you will love Hillary Clinton!
All that's left for her to do is to kiss Bush on the cheek.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:01 AM
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29. She did not beg for Liberman to be her mentor.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:53 AM
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26. Maybe she actually knows more about Obama
than we do, the MSM has definitely given him a free ride since day one. Have you ever had a bosses pet get promoted over you and you and all your co-workers know he is the least qualified person in the company for the job?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:03 AM
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31. Why won't Hillary release her tax returns?
Did the Clintons get money from Saudi sources, is that what they are hiding?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:03 AM
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32. Minus 8 years as First Lady (without security clearance or briefs)
Obama has MORE, that's right, MORE legislative experience than Hillary. Have you ever been passed up for a promotion by a less qualified candidate just because they knew the right people?
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:05 AM
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33. And the right people is the MSM in this case
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:08 AM
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35. Using your argument, shouldn't Richardson be the nominee?
Or Biden or Dodd? All of them were more "qualified" than Clinton in terms of experience.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:12 AM
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38. I totally agree on all of the above, but no the MSM
only focused on Hillary and Obama the two least qualified of the bunch.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:18 AM
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40. You mean I slept all night and no one stepped up??!! n/t
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:21 AM
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41. I'm getting ready to go to work - any takers yet?
Haven't heard anything yet. Hmmm. I'll check back in this evening.:boring:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 06:13 PM
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44. You're probably gonna get home from work soon and still no answer from the Hillary camp! n/t
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