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Crooked Moon Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:29 PM
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TNR: Michigan to Announce Caucus Within Days
A member of the DNC's Rules And Bylaws Committee--the committee that stripped Florida and Michigan of its delegates for moving their primaries before February 5th--told me that Michigan plans to get out of its uncounted delegate problem by announcing a new caucus in the next few days.

"They want to play. They know how to do caucuses," the DNC source said. "That was their plan all along, before they got cute with the primary."


http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/03/06/breaking-michigan-caucus-likely-says-dnc-rules-committee-member.aspx
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bleowheels Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:32 PM
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1. Cue the whining from the Clinton campaign
5 4 3 2 1....
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:33 PM
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3. ...
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:00 PM
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22. That is my FAVORITE movie ever!
And I love Fran Kubelik.

:loveya:

I've loved her since before I even heard of Shirley!

:thumbsup:

Which reminds me, I have to put the tennis racket through the dishwasher again.

--p!
"Be a mensch".
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:32 PM
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2. I hope you are right. I would love to see those Dems vote, especially now.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:34 PM
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4. PR has moved it's date up too. I think Dem state parties have had enough of HRC.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:35 PM
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8. PR is *not* winner take all, right?
Someone here said it was once, but I wasn't able to verify that, and got some information to the contrary...

Anyone know for sure?

David
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:44 PM
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14. It is not.
55 delegates awarded in a closed caucus. Not Winner-take-all.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/PR-D.phtml
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:43 PM
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13. How does PR moving it's date up have anything to do w/ HRC. I guess you will blame everything on her
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:34 PM
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5. Jeesh, how will a Michigan caucus go?
Should be fun, I guess. When? How much time to campaign. More fun battles.

Can you imagine how a caucus in Florida would go?

David
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zarath Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:37 PM
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10. Riots.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:38 PM by zarath
Seriously. Edit: Florida that is... probably not in Michigan unless something really egregious happens.


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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:34 PM
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6. Great news. We all know who rules the caucuses.
Chalk up another one for Obama if this story is true.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:36 PM
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9. He's great with the non-representational wins.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:39 PM
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11. Hillary didn't have a problem with caucuses when her husband was winning them in 1992
I hope this is true. I wonder when this would happen.
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:01 PM
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23. Michigan caucuses are like primaries- you vote in private booths
it's a lot like New Mexico's caucuses.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:35 PM
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7. a caucus, GObama
Obama-footsoldiers, to your stations

Charge!!!!
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:40 PM
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12. Will cactus survive in Michigan?
Pretty chilly up there this time of year.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:44 PM
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15. I think Michigan is favorable for Obama anyway.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:46 PM
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16. My understanding is it will be a primary-like caucus.
No speeches, no public voting, no second ballots. Just a go in an vote once.

They couldn't, by law or cost, hold another Primary, so they defaulted to a caucus, in name only.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:51 PM
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17. Interesting Tekisui. Where can I get more info about this faux caucus in MI?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:52 PM
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18. I heard Thom Hartmann talking about it.
I have yet to find a source on the net about it. I'll post something if I find it, because I have been curious about the details, myself.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:57 PM
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21. I found this about "firehouse primary"
It is a primary ran by the party, rather than the state. It looks like what the MI governor is calling for.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-03-06-primary-QnA_N.htm

I still haven't found about the legality of the primary versus caucus.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:56 PM
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20. I think this is fine!
As long as it is quick and easy for people to vote in I think it will be a good way to have the new delegate choice seated.

Here is to hoping Obama will win big there.
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BalancedGoat Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:14 PM
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27. Like North Dakota's "caucus"?
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JorgeTheGood Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:54 PM
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19. primary changes to caucus ???
isn't that changing the rules ?? LOL - I thought that's what all the complaining was about ... no changing the rules.

So now it's OK again to change the rules ???
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:02 PM
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24. I think the rules say no Michigan delegates
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 11:02 PM by Bok_Tukalo
... so yea, I guess them having some is changing the rules.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:05 PM
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25. ON Countdown tonight...didn't he show a quote that she did not want a MI caucus
Nobody else has mentioned it but I know I saw it and now I can't find it.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:08 PM
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26. Obama will win in MI then! Yeah!
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:52 PM
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28. I don't care which
Primary or caucus are fine. We just need a fair election where both candidates are on the ballot and delegates are allocated accordingly. Clinton supporters should not whine either. They know the previous "election" we had here was a sham. After all, it's not like people could even write in Obama or Edwards' name.

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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:20 AM
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29. But ... but ... a caucus isn't fair! How dare the Obama campaign demand the delegates be seated!
Oh, wait ...
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