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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:39 PM
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Can someone clear up the Obama - Lieberman mentor and endorsement thing for me?
I'm seeing comments here about Obama "picking" Lieberman as his mentor as freshman senator. Do they "pick" them or are they "assigned"? On a different blog I saw the word "assigned" and I couldn't find anything about it on senate.gov

Did Obama campaign for Lieberman, and if so, was it during the CT Dem primary, or the CT Senate general election? (Same thing, I'm seeing different things different places).

Thanks!

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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:42 PM
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1. I've heard they are assigned mentors...
And that Obama campaigned for Lieberman's opponent.
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:58 PM
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12. You are mistaken he didnt support Anti-War candidate
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 08:59 PM by MojoMojoMojo
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/04/02/164/90446
Who came to his rescue? Sen. Barak Obama, with a ringing endorsement.

"I know that some in the party have differences with Joe," Senator Obama said, all but silencing the crowd. "I'm going to go ahead and say it. It's the elephant in the room. And Joe and I don't agree on everything. But what I know is, Joe Lieberman's a man with a good heart, with a keen intellect, who cares about the working families of America."

Then, with applause beginning to build, he finished the thought: "I am absolutely certain that Connecticut's going to have the good sense to send Joe Lieberman back to the United States Senate." That time, people cheered loudly.

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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:10 PM
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17. Your link is from April: this is from October
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:28 PM
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20. Thanks for posting that...
I was beginning to wonder if I'd imagined the whole thing! lol
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:59 PM
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29. Yes I see we are both correct
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:03 PM
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30. He requested Lieberman.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:42 PM
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2. Obama did not campaign for
Lieberman. In fact, he did the opposite. He endorsed Lamont.

Yes, Joe Lieberman showed Obama around when he first came to the Senate. After Obama
endorsing Lamont, I think it's pretty obvious how Obama feels about lieberman and
his politics. That's what is most important.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:45 PM
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3. endorsed Lamont - thanks
if that's the case, I wish other people would stop posting the opposite...
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:53 PM
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7. In fairness, Clinton also endorsed Lamont... *after* the primary.
She endorsed ( if memory serves) Lieberman in the primary vs. Lamont.

I'm not sure when Obama endorsed Lamont, i.e. before or after Lamont was the party nominee.

That would be a fair basis of comparison with Clinton.

Anyone?
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:54 PM
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9. I'm not even worried about vs. Clinton - I just want to understand what happened nt
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:48 PM
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25. Hillary sat on her hands; Bill campaigned for Lieberman as indy against Lamont as Dem
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:56 PM
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32. Vile if true. Bill Clinton campaigned *against* the DEM nominee...
... in the CT senate race?
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:47 PM
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4. Obama goes whichever way the wind blows
at the time he was elected to the senate, he admired Joe Lieberman. When it became risky for his career he changed his tune.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:49 PM
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5. what does "admired" mean?
like, how does one document that? How did Clinton and other Senators feel back in 2000/2001 when Joe had just been the VP nominee (and by the election, should have been VP?)

Personally, I didn't admire him at all back then, but a lot of Dems. did.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:39 PM
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23. I liked Lieberman back then
Or at least, I was pretty proud of having the first Jew on a major party ticket. I was only 16 then, so I did not know much else about him. But he didn't really become that bad until he started supporting the war in 2002.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:49 PM
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26. He was far to the right of Gore and pretty conservative on social issues
or at least that's my memory of it.
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:53 PM
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8. I believe your facts are reversed.Obama helped Lieberman in the campaign
But Lamont endorsed Obama in spite of that.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:57 PM
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11. during the primary, or the Nov election, or both??? nt
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:10 PM
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18. You need to do more research
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:51 PM
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6. They are assigned,but Lieberman states that Obama requested him
I see no reason why Lieberman would lie about that,and Obama has never denied it.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:56 PM
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10. so is it done by each party leadership in the Senate? nt
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:00 PM
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13. They are assigned. Bottom line too, who did Lamont endorse for president?
Obama. While Lieberman is supporting Hillary's buddy McCain.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:06 PM
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16. thanks for post - will try to figure this out
had a headache earlier today and it's back :crazy:
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:03 PM
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14. OBAMA ENDORSED LIEBERMAN
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/04/02/164/90446
"Who came to his rescue? Sen. Barak Obama, with a ringing endorsement.

"I know that some in the party have differences with Joe," Senator Obama said, all but silencing the crowd. "I'm going to go ahead and say it. It's the elephant in the room. And Joe and I don't agree on everything. But what I know is, Joe Lieberman's a man with a good heart, with a keen intellect, who cares about the working families of America."

Then, with applause beginning to build, he finished the thought: "I am absolutely certain that Connecticut's going to have the good sense to send Joe Lieberman back to the United States Senate." That time, people cheered loudly."
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:05 PM
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15. thanks for link, will read later nt
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:11 PM
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19. Keep on lying - he endorsed Lamont
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:37 PM
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21. thanks - more for my reading list
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:39 PM
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22. That was in the primary. Who did Bill and Hill support in the primary? Joe
In fact Bill held a big rally for Joe, something he never did for Lamont. Meanwhile Obama campaigned for Lamont and Lamont endorsed Obama for president over Clinton.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:58 PM
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33. In the primary. So did Hillary Clinton.
Both went on to endorse Lamont in the general. You are deliberately misleading the OP with this.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:44 PM
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24. He endorsed Lieberman in the primary, Lamont in the general
As did many progressive Democratic senators, including Barbara Boxer. It's not unusual for senators to endorse a colleague over a challenger in the primaries. But once Lamont won the primary, Obama got behind him, as did most Democratic senators and the Democratic leadership. Obama went beyond a lot of his Senate colleagues and campaigned for Lamont in October: http://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2006/10/26/lamont_gets_lift_from_obama_lieberman_campaigns_with_landrieu/

I think Lamont's endorsement of Obama in the presidential primary should put to rest any concern that he is too close to Lieberman or aspires to be another Lieberman. The mentorship was simply procedural.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:50 PM
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27. thank you for a clear answer to my OP!
:hi:
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:58 PM
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28. Agreed
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lmbradford Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:40 PM
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31. sure...
When a new senator goes to Washington they are ASSIGNED a mentor to help them with procedure and process.

That's it, end of story and anything else is bs.
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