KO just said it was actually clinton's party that contacted the canadian govt: NYTimes link

[spanone]

and told them to take what hillary says about nafta with a grain of salt....

howard fineman said it's 180 degrees different than it was reported


??????????????????????http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Canada-Democrats-Trade.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=hillary+nafta&st=nyt&oref=slogin

[nell2323]

1. Link

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080305.wharpleak0305/BNStory/National/home

[DesertFlower]

16. thanks for the link.

i just heard it on olbermann.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

2. I Still Love Him, But It's Really Sad To See KO Jump The Shark.

All they have is someone 'saying so'. To turn it around like something with merit and substance, is pretty ridiculous. I'm disappointed in him for that, but I'll get over it.

[Lint Head]

6. What has KO ever reported that was a lie and not a mistake?

The admission can from Canada and Hillary's spokesman has basically confirmed it. I will voted for the Democratic nominee but BS is BS. :dem:

[npincus]

15. KO did not jump the shark- this was reported in Canda's Globe and Mail

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080305.wharpleak0305/BNStory/National/home

Her campaign smeared Obama- read all about it. On top of that, she endorsed John McCain's experience AGAIN.

Tell me, WHO jusmped the shark?

[KAZ]

17. Sorry OMC. You've lost it. n/t

[berni_mccoy]

55. Given the responses and all the Ignores popping up, I thought it was him

:rofl:

[Lucinda]

38. Yup.

[JackORoses]

46. so now your'e cutting Keith loose because he calls Hillary out?

what a lameass!

OperationHillShill

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

48. Oh How I Wish I Was As Brilliant As You Are In Reading Comprehension!

I mean:

"I Still Love Him"

"I'll get over it."

I TOTALLY see why you'd think I'm cutting him loose. :dunce:

[stillcool]

47. That's how it works with Obama...

just someone's say-so. When it comes to Hillary you need some 'quotes' This story does not sound right to me. I'm not sure if both of these candidates might not be victims.

By ROB GILLIES, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 26 minutes ago

TORONTO - Prime Minister Stephen Harper's chief of staff said someone in Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign gave Canada back-channel assurances that her harsh words about the North American Free Trade Agreement were for political show, according to a report by the Canadian Press.

The report comes just days after a Canadian government memo stated Barack Obama's senior economic adviser told Canadian officials that the Illinois senator's own comments about NAFTA were for "political positioning." The release of that memo helped Clinton defeat Obama decisively in Tuesday's Democratic primary in Ohio, where the trade treaty is unpopular.

On Wednesday, the Canadian Press quoted an unidentified source as saying that Ian Brodie, Harper's chief of staff, made the comment last week to a crew for Canada's CTV television network during a press gathering to discuss Canada's budget. According to a person with knowledge of the incident, the source was a CTV journalist.

The Canadian Press story said a CTV reporter asked Brodie about remarks by Clinton and Obama that they would seek to renegotiate NAFTA.

"He said someone from Clinton's campaign is telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt. ... That someone called us and told us not to worry," the journalist quoted Brodie as saying, according to the report.
------------------------

"Ian Brodie is alleged to have made an offhand comment about a rumor to a reporter. He does not recall saying it," Sandra Buckler, a spokeswoman for Harper, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press.

Some Democrats, as well as Canadian opposition parties, have accused Harper's Conservative government of meddling in the U.S. primary elections — in which Obama is in a close race with Clinton for the Democratic Party's nomination.

In Ottawa, Canadian opposition parties demanded Brodie be fired.

Harper told lawmakers in Parliament that the government would investigate the entire affair, referring to the alleged leaks about both the Clinton and Obama campaigns.

"We're going to investigate this entire matter and take whatever action that is deemed necessary based on the facts that we are able to discover," Harper said, a day after he called the release of the memo unfair and possibly illegal.

Canada's New Democratic Party Leader Jack Layton blasted the alleged leaks.

"There can be no doubt about it: The leak from within the Canadian government has had an impact now on the American elections," Layton said. "That is about the worst thing a country could do to another country — to have an effect on their democratic process."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080307/ap_on_re_ca/canada_democrats_trade

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

49. There's A Memo When Discussing It In Relation To Him. Is There One Towards Her?

I didn't give the Obama story any merit until that memo came out. KO and the rest of you shouldn't be so reckless as to give the story as it relates to HER merit, until something with a bit more substance comes out. That's all.

[stillcool]

58. Unfortunately, it's very hard...

to give the Clinton Campaign the benefit of the doubt. Sad isn't it? Perhaps if the story had not come out right before the election, and the Clinton Campaign had not pounced on it the second it was reported, things may not smell so bad.

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail

A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."

"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail.The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html

Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says.

Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)

http://graphics.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080112_nevada_lawsuit.pdf
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/a-feisty-bill-clinton-defends-nevada-lawsuit/
CLINTON ALLIES SUPPRESS THE VOTE IN NEVADA...
On Meet the Press on Sunday, Hillary Clinton said her campaign had nothing to do with a lawsuit--written about by Nation Editor Katrina vanden Heuvel--that threatens to prevent thousands of workers from voting in the Nevada caucus on Saturday.
Back in March, the Nevada Democratic Party agreed to set up caucus locations on the Vegas strip for low-income shift workers, many of them members of the state's influential Culinary Union, who commute long distances to work and wouldn't be able to get home in time to caucus. It was an uncontroversial idea until the Culinary Union endorsed Barack Obama and the Nevada State Education Association, whose top officials support Clinton, sued to shut down the caucus sites.
The Clinton camp played dumb until yesterday, when President Clinton came out in favor of the lawsuit.
Clinton's comments drew a heated response from D. Taylor, the head of Nevada's Culinary Union, on MSNBC's Hardball. "He is in support of disenfranchising thousands upon thousands of workers, not even just our members," Taylor said of Clinton. "The teachers union is just being used here. We understand that This is the Clinton campaign. They tried to disenfranchise students in Iowa. Now they're trying to disenfranchise people here in Nevada, who are union members and people of color and women."
Rank-and-file members of Nevada's teachers union also come out against the lawsuit filed by their leadership. "We never thought our union and Senator Clinton would put politics ahead of what's right for our students, but that's exactly what they're doing," the letter stated. "As teachers, and proud Democrats, we hope they will drop this undemocratic lawsuit and help all Nevadans caucus, no matter which candidate they support."
The lawsuit's opponents make a persuasive point. Creating obstacles to voting is what the GOP does to Democrats, not what Democrats should be doing to other Democrats.

Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.
Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html

January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”

COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34

Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs

Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance
By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008

The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's Super Tuesday primary, which she won.
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html

Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET

The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
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Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
-------------------------
Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused.

[islandmkl]

3. now I am all confused....

is it better to lie about yourself, or lie about someone else....

how the f*** does this shit work?

[rosetta627]

4. He's right, it was the Clinton Klan

"Mr. Brodie, apparently seeking to play down the potential impact on Canada, told the reporters the threat was not serious, and that someone from Ms. Clinton's campaign had even contacted Canadian diplomats to tell them not to worry because the NAFTA threats were mostly political posturing.

The Canadian Press cited an unnamed source last night as saying that several people overheard the remark.

The news agency quoted that source as saying that Mr. Brodie said that someone from Ms. Clinton's campaign called and was "telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt."

The story was followed by CTV's Washington bureau chief, Tom Clark, who reported that the Obama campaign, not the Clinton's, had reassured Canadian diplomats.

Mr. Clark cited unnamed Canadian sources in his initial report.

There was no explanation last night for why Mr. Brodie was said to have referred to the Clinton campaign but the news report was about the Obama campaign."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080305.wnafta06/BNStory/National/home

Lee Atwater, Karl Rove, and Hillary Clinton.

[book_worm]

5. Shame on you, Hillary Clinton!

[AntiFascist]

7. Welcome to reality, that's how Hillary plays politics...

what else is she lying about? We'll be bombing Iran in not time, with all this praise for McCain.

[sueragingroz]

8. anyone named names yet?

didn't think so..

[spanone]

13. Link: New York Times - the prime ministers chief of staff said...

TORONTO (AP) -- Prime Minister Stephen Harper's chief of staff said someone in Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign gave Canada back-channel assurances that her harsh words about the North American Free Trade Agreement were for political show, according to a report by the Canadian Press.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Canada-Democrats-Trade.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=hillary+nafta&st=nyt&oref=slogin

[kikiek]

9. That isn't what your link says. In it Obama's campaign doesn't deny it. They said it

was characterized "unfairly". That tells you he admits he contacted them. That has nothing to do with Clinton's campaign.From your link.
When Mr. Obama's campaign and the Canadian government denied the allegation, a leaked document was obtained by The Associated Press written by a Canadian diplomat. It chronicled a conversation between Obama economic adviser Austan Goulsbee and diplomats at Canada's Chicago consulate.

The Obama aide has challenged the wording of the memo and says it characterized the conversation unfairly. A government official said that memo was initially e-mailed to over 120 government employees.

[spanone]

10. i just want to know the truth....dammit

[sunnystarr]

22. In a Google search I ran across a great recap from start to present

Someone did a great job.

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.retirement/msg/bb98c8f11fa9d45f?

[kikiek]

28. Here's the truth. Obama and camp fucked up and got caught. Now surrogates try to blame

Clinton. Gee it feels like the 90's again. It's all Clinton's fault. Gee Obama learned his dirty lessons well.

[sunnystarr]

37. Unbelievable - I feel like I landed in Freeperland (nt)

[rosetta627]

11. Here's another link

It's being widely reported... now... after the primaries.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/13269

[kikiek]

14. And that link doesn't say anything. It is a blog and an opinon of a fan of Obama.

[spanone]

18. see this link

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Canada-Democrats-Trade.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=hillary+nafta&st=nyt&oref=slogin

[kikiek]

19. Same thing. No names of anything. And Obama's campaign after denying they contacted them

has admitted they did. Just an attempt to smear Hillary once again by the eager to please Obama crowd.

[spanone]

20. it says the prime ministers chief of staff.

that's one person....ian brodie..

if you say the vice president of the us, you don't have to say his name. we know who the turd is.

[Spazito]

25. It must be the Prime Minister of Canada's Chief of Staff that...

was attempting "to smear Hillary" seeing as it is his words to the press that are being quoted. They are not words made up by the "eager to please Obama crowd." Here are his words:

"Mr. Brodie, apparently seeking to play down the potential impact on Canada, told the reporters the threat was not serious, and that someone from Ms. Clinton's campaign had even contacted Canadian diplomats to tell them not to worry because the NAFTA threats were mostly political posturing.

The Canadian Press cited an unnamed source Wednesday night as saying that several people overheard the remark.

The news agency quoted that source as saying that Mr. Brodie said that someone from Ms. Clinton's campaign called and was "telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt."

The story was followed by CTV's Washington bureau chief, Tom Clark, who reported that the Obama campaign, not the Clinton's, had reassured Canadian diplomats."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080306.wleakupdate0306/BNStory/National/home

[kikiek]

26. There is no names. How can you say it was anyone from Clinton's campaign then? Obama's call

the guy who did called admitted it! Probably Obama's camp calling using Hillary's name.

[Spazito]

33. You are wrong, there NEVER was any call from Obama's camp

that was never the story, you need to become more informed about what actually occurred. The phone call, according to Mr. Brodie, came from the Clinton camp. You are mixing up two separate controversies and do not seem to have the facts behind either one.

Even you must see how lame your "Probably Obama's camp calling using Hillary's name." comment is, very lame.

[kikiek]

36. How do you know it is lame? I have as much info on who allegedly called as the Canadian govt. Same

amt of proof too.

[Spazito]

41. Actually, no, you don't have as much info, but then again, you

already knew that, didn't you.

[kikiek]

45. Oh there goes an Obama surrogate insulting someone again. Boring and typical.

[Spazito]

53. No, just a Canadian who prefers to see facts reported when it involves

Canada, actions of my government and their officials as opposed to ill-informed and mis-informed posters posting inaccurate facts. I merely pointed out the obvious, your knowledge base on the phone call by the Clinton campaign, mentioned by the Prime Minister's chief of staff, is not the same.

[kikiek]

57. You don't know if anyone from Clinton's campaign called. Bottom line. Obama's guy admits

he was there but the memo misrepresents what he said. Yea sure.

[kikiek]

23. Unable to actually name anyone in Clinton's camp. They named Obama's. It is an attempt to save his

job because Obama's campaign complained and he might get fired now
. chief of staff said someone in Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign lark's report also quoted sources as saying the Clinton campaign made ''indirect contact'' with the Canadian government to express their support for NAFTA. The Clinton campaign has denied this too.


Ian Brodie is alleged to have made an offhand comment about a rumor to a reporter. He does not recall saying it,'' Sandra Buckler, a spokeswoman for Harper, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press.
In Ottawa, Canadian opposition parties demanded Brodie be fired.

[Stephanie]

12. So can we get a do-over in OH?

[Faygo Kid]

21. Look out: This isn't just a big post in the NY Times. It's the Associated Press.

Look for it in the morning in your local paper.

This story has legs, and it just confirms what many of us here have known for some time: It's time for change, and Hillary is the antithesis of positive change. Karl Rove business as usual for her, and she's gonna get called on it finally.

[kikiek]

24. You need to read it again if you think it clears Obama's camp. They even admitted it.

Their only claim is their call was mis chacterized.

[Faygo Kid]

27. It condemns Clinton's camp. You try reading it again.

Nice try at spin. I didn't claim it clears Obama's camp. That's hardly the story, given this lead:

"Prime Minister Stephen Harper's chief of staff said someone in Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign gave Canada back-channel assurances that her harsh words about the North American Free Trade Agreement were for political show, according to a report by the Canadian Press."

She used it against him. It exposes her as the fraud she is. Enjoy this one over the next few days.

[kikiek]

30. Who? They can't name anybody. Unlike Obama's surrogate. Made up crap.

[Spazito]

31. There was NO call by the Obama campaign....

there was, however, according to Mr. Brodie, the Prime Minister of Canada's chief of staff, a call from the Clinton campaign.

There was a visit by someone from Mr. Obama's campaign to the Canadian Consulate, at the Consulate's invitation, where many issues were discussed. The discussions were NOT with the low-level employee, Joseph DeMora, that gave his subjective opinion on the discussions, the meeting was between Austan Goolsbee and Canadian Consul General Georges Rioux. The Consulate has since issued this statement:

"In the recent report produced by the Consulate General in Chicago, there was no intention to convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a different position in public from views expressed in private, including about NAFTA. We deeply regret any inference that may have been drawn to that effect."



The low level employee has since gone silent and no wonder.

The Clinton campaign phone call is separate from the Consulate story and should be followed up, imo.

[kikiek]

32. Produce a name then. Who did they talk to? Made up crap once again.

[Spazito]

34. So, the Prime Minister's Chief of Staff made up crap?

I don't think so. What he did do, by letting out the information about the call from the Clinton campaign, is get his own guy, the PM, in more hot water not to mention jeopardizing his own job.

[kikiek]

35. They don't have a name. Why wouldn't you get a name? How do you verify it is a Clinton staffer

otherwise? Anyone can call and claim to be anybody.

[Spazito]

39. LOL, yep, anybody can call up the PMO's office and get through

to the PM's chief of staff, try it, you might find it interesting. Just say you're Hillary, I am sure they will put you right through, lol.

As to a name, given there is now an investigation into Mr. Brodie's actions, we might actually get a name, not because the New Conservative government would want to out the Clinton campaign person but because they will have to.

Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it and it rarely ends up being what you wanted.

[kikiek]

42. Well evidently they can if they can't name anybody. Unless it is made up.

[kikiek]

43. Hey they got the name of Obama's guy.

[Spazito]

50. Yes, interesting, eh.....

and it turns out Obama's guy did and said NOTHING wrong as I have already shown by posting the Consulate's statement.

The phone call, on the other hand, still needs to be explained and investigated as vigorously as the visit to the Consulate was. We can agree on that, right?

[kikiek]

56. If Obama's camp didn't do anything wrong why the denial? And nothing to prove

against Hillary. No crime committed. It is just Obama surrogates trying to pin something on Hillary because they got caught. They learned it from the Republicans. Not even original.

[stillcool]

54. I am not at all sure...

what the real deal is here. The problem is that this information was used against Obama right before the election. While as soon as the election is over the Clinton Campaign is all of a sudden enveloped in the very thing they are accusing the Obama Campaign of. It's all very messy.

By ROB GILLIES, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 26 minutes ago

TORONTO - Prime Minister Stephen Harper's chief of staff said someone in Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign gave Canada back-channel assurances that her harsh words about the North American Free Trade Agreement were for political show, according to a report by the Canadian Press.


The report comes just days after a Canadian government memo stated Barack Obama's senior economic adviser told Canadian officials that the Illinois senator's own comments about NAFTA were for "political positioning." The release of that memo helped Clinton defeat Obama decisively in Tuesday's Democratic primary in Ohio, where the trade treaty is unpopular.

On Wednesday, the Canadian Press quoted an unidentified source as saying that Ian Brodie, Harper's chief of staff, made the comment last week to a crew for Canada's CTV television network during a press gathering to discuss Canada's budget. According to a person with knowledge of the incident, the source was a CTV journalist.

The Canadian Press story said a CTV reporter asked Brodie about remarks by Clinton and Obama that they would seek to renegotiate NAFTA.

"He said someone from Clinton's campaign is telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt. ... That someone called us and told us not to worry," the journalist quoted Brodie as saying, according to the report.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
"Ian Brodie is alleged to have made an offhand comment about a rumor to a reporter. He does not recall saying it," Sandra Buckler, a spokeswoman for Harper, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press.

Some Democrats, as well as Canadian opposition parties, have accused Harper's Conservative government of meddling in the U.S. primary elections — in which Obama is in a close race with Clinton for the Democratic Party's nomination.

In Ottawa, Canadian opposition parties demanded Brodie be fired.

Harper told lawmakers in Parliament that the government would investigate the entire affair, referring to the alleged leaks about both the Clinton and Obama campaigns.

"We're going to investigate this entire matter and take whatever action that is deemed necessary based on the facts that we are able to discover," Harper said, a day after he called the release of the memo unfair and possibly illegal.

Canada's New Democratic Party Leader Jack Layton blasted the alleged leaks.

"There can be no doubt about it: The leak from within the Canadian government has had an impact now on the American elections," Layton said. "That is about the worst thing a country could do to another country — to have an effect on their democratic process."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080307/ap_on_re_ca/canada_democrats_trade

[Kahuna]

29. Hit her hard! Hit her hard! Hit her real hard!!

Yeaaaaaaaaa Team!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[nomorewhopper]

40. this is an outrage!

her phony bullshit anger at obama over this, and i can't fucking believe that SHE was the one who did it holy fuggin crap

[sloppyjoe25s]

44. Here is the Yahoo Link...

this is gettin' good!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080306/pl_afp/canadausdemocratsvotediplomacy

[IsItJustMe]

51. Thank god this is breaking into the American msm. Have not heard a word about it on CNN. I thought

this would be a complete black out here.

[City Lights]

52. Glad this story is making the rounds. eom