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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:17 PM
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Does America want a Whiner in the White House?
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 02:19 PM by Stephanie

Is she going to cry "Ken Starr" every time the Republicans oppose her? When foreign leaders criticize her, is she going to whine that they're ganging up on her because she's a woman? This whole "poor me" routine does not bode well for her leadership potential. It's a question of character.

Toughen up or get out, Hillary. You can't play the Victim in the White House! The U.S. Presidency is not for Whiners!





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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:19 PM
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1. You know, the G-8 always make her speak first at summits--
it's not FAAAAAAIIIRRRR!!! WAHHHHH!!!
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:20 PM
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2. Well, there goes those "tough girl" bona fides. I thought she was "tested" & all that crap? -eom
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:21 PM
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4. Hillary's got more personalities than Sybil.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:21 PM
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3. Oh, it is OK when men shad a tear on occasions. This show their "softer" side
but let a woman do this and all the catty remarks are out.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:22 PM
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5. She has no honor or dignity
What an absolutely disgusting human being she is.
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ExtraGriz Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:22 PM
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6. real informative post
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:24 PM
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7. Obama: "C'mon, guys, I just answered, like, eight questions."
No, they don't.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:24 PM
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8. I wouldn't worry, she's already lost the nomination
Most Democrats already know this, but she's going to remain stubborn and in deep denial.

She will not get to the White House except as President Obama's guest.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:29 PM
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12. Kiss my ass. Obama will not win.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:31 PM
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13. How do you figure? Fuzzy math?
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 02:38 PM by tridim
I know it sucks when your candidate is losing, but denial isn't going to change the facts.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:01 PM
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15. Many didnt think Bush would be around for two terms either, dont...
forget that there are powerful corrupt people running the country...anything is possible.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:25 PM
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9. She's crying on the outside, "fighting" on the inside.
For every last vote, and screw anyone who gets in her way.
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acrosstheuniverse Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:27 PM
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11. Here is the article. Let's see how the MSM carries this...
This is posted on Drudge Report with photo of Bush and Mccain laughing at the mess the Democrats are in due to Hillary.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Clinton_aide_compares_Obama_to_Ken_Starr.html

Clinton aide compares Obama to Ken Starr

Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson, taking the campaign a bit meta on a conference call today, attacked Obama for attacking Clinton, and compared him to a notorious Clinton foe.

"When Sen. Obama was confronted with questions over whether he was ready to be commander in chief and steward of the economy, he chose not to address those questions, but to attack Sen. Clinton," Wolfson said. "I for one do not believe that imitating Ken Starr is the way to win a Democratic primary election for president."

Wolfson was attacking Obama's explicit strategy, in the wake of his March 4 losses, to attack elements of Clinton's record on the grounds of secrecy, and to revisit the questions raised by Clinton foes in the 1990s and earlier. Obama has demanded Clinton's tax returns, cited delays in releasing her White House schedules, and even made reference to trades in cattle futures in the late 1970s that became a subject of allegations during the White House years.

Wolfson also responded to the substance of Obama's complaint, that Clinton hasn't released her recent tax returns, and to the reminder today that Clinton (via Wolfson) attacked her 2000 Senate rival, Rick Lazio, for failing to release his tax returns.

"Over 20 years of the Clintons' tax returns are part of the public record," he said, referring to their White House years and also to her more recent Senate disclosure forms. "Everyone knows we have made clear that all of the post-White House tax returns will be put out by the campaign on or about tax time — April 15," he said, though he didn't explain why they wouldn't be out sooner.

"As somebody who led the effort to ensure that Mr. Lazio provided his tax returns, certainly at that point he had not provided 20 years of his tax returns to the people of New York," he said.

He also promised the tax returns would be out before the April 22 Pennsylvania primary.

UPDATE: Obama spokesman Bill Burton responds:

It is absurd that after weeks of badgering the media to ‘vet’ Sen. Obama, the Clinton campaign believes that they should be held to an entirely different standard. We don’t believe that expecting candidates for the presidency to disclose their tax returns somehow constitutes Ken Starr-tactics, but the kind of transparency and accountability that Americans are looking for and that’s been missing in Washington for far too long. And if Sen. Clinton doesn’t think that the Republicans will ask these very same questions, then she’s not as ready to go toe-to-toe with John McCain as she claims.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:06 PM
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23. they never explain why April 15 is the magic day for LAST YEAR'S tax returns!
The Clinton campaign is so busy pulling the wool over everyone's eyes they have no time for anything else.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:26 PM
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10. GOOD POINT! It'll be 4 years of "kitchen sink" from the right
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 02:27 PM by LSparkle
How will she handle it? Will she complain about unfair media coverage?
Whine about the Rethugs in Congress attacking her?

This is EXACTLY why we don't need another Clinton in the WH --
because it'll be a re-run of the attacks of the '90s. Back then
I defended the Clintons but based on her campaign's tactics, I now
wonder if some of the criticism was deserved.

ON EDIT: And during the '90s, we didn't have the kind of 24/7
media scrutiny we now have thanks to expanded cable news and
the internet ... All the more outlets to pounce on every
potential scandal.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:24 PM
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26. The Victim-in-Chief
"Why is everybody always picking on me?" Very presidential.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:59 PM
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14. No, but I sure need more people like Stephanie on my ignore list.....
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:01 PM
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16. Does the Democratic Party want a turncoat as the nominee?



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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:06 PM
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17. The Double Standard
The "Saturday Night Live" skit that showed reporters fawning over Obama
while grilling Hillary Clinton like a felony suspect, wasn't too far off the mark.

The media coverage of the Clinton campaign is textbook case of how the coverage
of female candidates differs from that of males. Women have to walk a very thin line
when they run for high office. On the one hand, they have to appear tough, nothing at all
like a sniveling female, and when they do talk tough, they are called "shrill."

The media loved Hillary when she put her hand on Obama's and said it was a privilege
to be on the same podium; they hated her when she slammed him for giving out what
she called misleading information on her healthcare plan.

At the same time, the news media have gone into a deep swoon over Obama. Howard Kurtz
said, "I haven't seen a politician get this kind of walk-on-water coverage since
Colin Powell flirted with making a run for the White House. I mean, it is amazing." from the boston globe


This is more about hating the Clintons than keeping women in their place.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:21 PM
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18. Actually, it was ridiculously off the mark. Clinton has been given every advantage in the press
Starting with a year's worth of coverage as the inevitable frontrunner, all-but-sure nominee. She got beaten up for awhile between Iowa and NH, but ever since then they've been terrified to say outright that she's done for, because they're afraid of another NH. Also, kindly tell me what male candidate could change tone as radically and as often as she has without being--justifiably--called insane, or who could tear up without being called a wimp.

The only double standard in play here is the one used by Clinton supporters to define anybody not shilling for them as being pro-Obama. The truth is that she's gotten slammed for giving out false information because she HAS given out false information. She's gotten slammed for negative campaigning because she's pulled out more slime than even the Republicans have.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:56 PM
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22. 10/10. Perfect post.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:20 PM
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24. This is about accountability.
She doesn't want to show her tax returns? Like every other presidential candidate has done? She wants to sling dirt, sling bald-faced lies, and then when SHE's called to account on something she calls the questioner Ken Starr? Give me a fucking break. That's despicable and you know it.
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:23 PM
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19. talk about whiners
"Save Obama!! Stop the Primary!!"
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:47 PM
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20. hilary's gotten more whine and cheeze outta
this primary than is healthy for public consumption. Remember "there's just no hypocricy like Hilary Hypocricy".
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:55 PM
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21. How true. I don't hear Obama whine, even though he's gotten
pretty bruised this past week. He's just giving it back to her now, and she's complaining.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 07:01 PM
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25. She sure can dish it out.
SHAME ON YOU, HILLARY CLINTON.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:14 AM
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27. This is the "fun part"
Right Hill?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:15 AM
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28. Pity cannot motivate a nation. It can only win votes and sometimes elections.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 06:03 PM
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29. And whining can't lead a nation. It can only get good and decent people fired -
for telling the truth.
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