OBAMA 1279 - CLINTON 1304 Delegates

[Buve]

Based on the numbers so far it takes Clinton 10150 to get a delegate and Obama 9509 votes.

if we do a little roleplay and reverse those costs....


OBAMA delegates at CLINTON cost = 1279
CLINTON delegates at OBAMA cost = 1304


what does a girl have to do to get ahead?


(source www.realclearpolitics.com . votes (Without FL) over pledged)

[WheresMyVoice]

1. THIS IS "THE" MATH!!

Hill yes! She's ahead!

[LeftCoast]

2. I support Clinton, but I don't see this as a strong argument.

Each campaign has to make strategic decisions about how and where they will campaign. In this case, either through accident or purpose, the Obama team seems to have found an advantage in the system. Seems fair game to me.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

5. The two above posters are trolls having a little fun. Don't get too excited

about their "facts".

[Buve]

13. psssst

its a popular vote argument

[LeftCoast]

20. I realize that.

I still feel it's a weak argument.

[kid a]

3. thats just fucked up

[Spider Jerusalem]

4. Per RCP: Obama, 1366, Clinton 1222 (pledged); Obama 1573, Clinton 1464 (total).

I have no idea where you got those numbers, but you're aparently just making things up.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_delegate_count.html

[Buve]

18. reading FTL

popular vote / pledged delegates = cost of delegate for each canidate.


NOW! Take clinton cost and turn it into obama cost and visa versa.



popular vote / cost of opponent = new delegate total!

YAY! RED STATES PICK OUR DELEGATE TOO!


OMG its 2000 all over again and Gore wins the popular and loses the election. You think Obama will win the democrats after that?!?!

[Spider Jerusalem]

28. I think you're a moron.

States which determine delegates by caucus have lower voter turnout than states which select their delegates through a primary process. If Hillary was unable to win the caucus states, it's the fault of her campaign's poor organisation. This is the system we have; it's too bad if you don't like it.

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[MadBadger]

7. WHat does she have to do to get ahead? How bout not embrace a fucked up strategy

One where she largely ignored Caucus states so that he would get 65+ in them and run up the score.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

8. Buve, WheresMyVoice and SnowBot are trolls. Indulge them if you want.

[WheresMyVoice]

9. Excuse me??

[Snowbot]

12. Apparently we're trolls

I hope the Clintonista doesn't stone us to death.

[JTFrog]

21. It is quite apparent, isn't it. No stoning here, just a good showing of your ass.

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[JTFrog]

25. I guess you don't read either. I'm not a Hillbot. Enjoy your stay.

Troll.

[Snowbot]

26. Oh I will

You can bet on that, friend.

[JTFrog]

29. Fortunately it will be quite short.

And trust me, I don't have friends like you. You can bet on your granite cookie. It's the best bet for your money at this point.

[Snowbot]

30. Whatever you say friend.

I'll be around for a long time. But thanks for the warm wishes.

[JTFrog]

32. Yeah, it was hours the last time someone said that. We're already on to you and your disgusting

posting habits. You may have changed out your graphic thinking it will save your ass, but you've been called on your sexist crap and you can expect to get called on and alerted on every time you do it. I'm sure this will be a little different than your experience at freeperville.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

14. No. No excuse for you. I have forwarded your many positions

attacking both Obama and Clinton

[WheresMyVoice]

19. I have not attacked ANYONE

Show me the ad hominem. Ridiculous.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

31. Here you go....

"Hill has more scandals than any in the GOP. Makes Tom DeLay look like kid stuff

Luckily Obama is a gentleman" http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4920012#4922617

"Yep

Hill goes down -- cackle and all." http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4895895#4922607

"Using THE math

This race is tied -- slight edge for ~ THE LADY ! ~" Using THE math http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4922078#4922925

"La la la

Obama-biased math doesn't faze me.

FIRED UP FOR THE LADY~" http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4922865#4922889


Rather inconsistent and troll-like, no?

[MadBadger]

11. I know

[JTFrog]

17. Reincarnation is quite popular this time of year. n/t

[HooptieWagon]

15. She started out with

100% name recognition, millions in corporate donations, Bill's "buddies list", and 150 superdelegates in hand. If she couldn't get the nomination with that head start, then maybe she's just not a good enough politician.

[dkf]

16. Whaaa! Can you count? Do you make any sense at all?

Besides, many caucus votes aren't popular votes, they are delegates.

Lame.

[Buve]

22. imo

She wins the popular and he wins the nomination....

i write her in... I'm in a mostly blue state (2000,2004) It "should" stay blue.

[WheresMyVoice]

23. Hill is way ahead in the pop. vote

That much is true

[JTFrog]

33. No. It's not. I take it math was not your best subject in school.

Where in the hell are you pulling your numbers? Even with Florida counted Obama has more votes. The only way Clinton has more is if you count Michigan where Obama wasn't even on the fucking ballot.

Do you deal in reality at all or just post at whim? Please link to your numbers.

[FlyingTiger]

27. So, I assume you've done a lot to try to get rid of the Electoral College in your time.

Considering it creates the exact same sort of math.

[Buve]

34. Agreed

But if we win OH and AR while holding all 2004 states minus WI and NM. Hilllary Wins!! Yay! \o/!

How does Obama hold OH and MI after getting trounced on the economy in these states?



Secondly tell my why ND should get a 25:1 delegate to voter advantage over TX when the state has gone to R's in 27 of the last 32 presidential elections?!?

Why should ND democrats get a huge advantage when they can NEVER get their state to go Dem? Texas has gone 27 Dem to 11 Repub in it's history?

[SoCalDem]

35. become a republican and win the winner-take-all primaries..oh wait..

that might not pan out either..

the "girl" should just follow the rules that have been in place since the 80s.. those rules worked out ok for her husband:)

[boppers]

36. Oooh, math without understanding statistics and set theory!

We totally need a pro-education candidate, because this is, well, "less than complete".

Why is bubble sort wrong?

[RBInMaine]

37. Go back to school and learn how to do math.

[Dogmudgeon]

38. Team Obama: Math You Can Count On

No more politics as usual.

Math. Rules. Order. Discipline!

And lots of hatred for your rivals.

--p!
Turn the TV off and do your homework, junior.

[zulchzulu]

39. You forgot that she gets 100 free delegates when she whines

Rewriting the rules...another Clintonian talent...

:puke: