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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:21 PM
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Dead Heat in Michigan (Kerry Leads Bush by Two)

By KATHY BARKS HOFFMAN
The Associated Press
4/2/04 5:36 PM


LANSING, Mich. (AP) -- President Bush continues to get lukewarm job and favorability ratings from likely Michigan voters, but he's not losing any ground, according to a poll released Friday.

Half of the 600 likely voters surveyed statewide said the president is doing an excellent or pretty good job, while 43 percent said he was doing just fair or poor and 2 percent were undecided in the poll conducted Sunday through Thursday by Lansing-based EPIC/MRA.

In a late February EPIC/MRA poll, 46 percent said the president was doing an excellent or pretty good job, while 53 percent gave him a negative job rating and 1 percent were undecided.

--snip--

In the latest poll, 47 percent say they favor Kerry, while 45 percent favor Bush and 8 percent are undecided. In February, it was 49 percent Kerry, 45 percent Bush and 6 percent undecided.

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http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/michigan/index.ssf?/newsflash/get_story.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?g8372_BC_MI--Poll-Bush&&news&newsflash-michigan
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:22 PM
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1. UNREAL
The way they have been hit by jobs? Mind boggling
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:27 PM
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2. Here's the problem. Michigan was virtually ignored pre primary.
Unemployment, foreclosures, and bankruptcies are the highest in the country and yet the candidates ignored us. And then came the NAACP debate. Big mistake. No one cared. :shrug: That's what happens. Autoworkers have no one to speak for them, and the entirety of Detroit is feeling disenfranchised after the debacle of a caucus. There's your answer. :hi:
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:47 PM
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3. What do you mean?
Kerry had his big jobs speech there
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:59 PM
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5. After the primaries. After the screwed up caucus...Too little too late
in a lot of minds. He needs to spend more time than just one speech based in a predominantly white, blue collar neighborhood to win people over.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:57 PM
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4. Gore won Michigan by 5%
which is not a comfortable margin. But with a Democratic
governor and a strong union presence I think it will break our
way.


Gore     2,170,418  	51.28%
Bush     1,953,139  	46.14%
Nader    84,165         1.99%
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zorkpolitics Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 09:19 AM
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6. Don't worry about Michigan
The strong Union GOTV effort will keep MI democratic.
But PA seems to be a different story, Bush is now up 6% in PA!
http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/news/local/8317512.htm?1c

Kerry chances of winning without PA are very small
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 10:11 AM
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7. I'm really worried about PA
the Dems really need it bad. We lost so many jobs its not even funny. A lot of PA people are just plain retarded. There's really no excuse for it. Hopefully things change by November
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 10:29 AM
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8. No he's not
That last poll was taken from a bunch of kids at Franklin Marshall. Kerry will win PA by 250,000 votes.
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west michigan Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 10:44 AM
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9. I hope bush ...
spends money here. It may be close but it aint gonna happen for him here.
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 01:29 PM
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10. Michigan worries me a bit...
It seems I have had to defend Gov.Granholm a lot lately. A lot of people I know--uninformed as they are--are falling for the state GOP crap (GOP chair "Amway queen"DeVos is such a rotten bitch)blaming Granholm for the bad effects from the Bush economy. Granholm inherited a virtual "shitpile" from Engler-Bush--but a lot of these people are a bit dense and just don't take the time to see reality.s.

Maybe I'm overly pessimistic because I live in an area surrounded by people with great recipes for delicious mourning dove(another urgent issue up here--no kidding!). But unless we can match the Bush media onslaught--these gullible people will be a problem.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 02:05 PM
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12. You're not being pessimistic. I am scared too. Union laborers aren't
following union leaders. There's the problem.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 02:15 PM
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14. Why is it that Gray Davis and Jen Granholm are being blamed....
for * failures??? :wtf: is he allowed to get away with this???


:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 02:17 PM
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16. It really gets me too. Jennifer canvassed the state asking for input
into the budget and made the choices she's made based on the opinion of the people. It's Bush's economic plan that is turning this state into a ghost town, Kerry needs to come and address that. :hi:
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EricNYC Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 01:30 PM
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11. Kerry will be fine in MI, especially if he runs with Edwards
I really believe that with the industrial job base having been hit so hard states like MI, PA and OH should be ours if we play it right. Bush is spending at an unprecedented rate and he's not able to move his numbers much beyond the inevitable tightening that would have occured post-primary.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 02:07 PM
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13. I think his chances are slightly better with Gephardt. But there is
a two pronged problem. No one in this thread has addressed the extreme voter disenfranchisement that went on during the caucus.

I.E. switched caucus locations, closed caucus locations.

Many Detroiters aren't even going to the polls. Get them to the polls and we have our win. Ignore Michigan, and suffer the result. Things are not peachy here, and a VP choice isn't going to fix the booboo.
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 02:17 PM
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15. more BS
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