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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:02 PM
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Obama Keeps Delegate Lead
Obama Keeps Delegate Lead


Obama Keeps Delegate Lead Despite Losses

WASHINGTON, Mar. 5, 2008

(AP) Sen. Barack Obama survived defeats in three primaries Tuesday with his lead in the delegate race essentially intact.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton netted only a 12-delegate pickup, despite winning primaries in Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island, according to an analysis of returns by The Associated Press. There were still 12 more delegates to be awarded.

In the overall race for the nomination, Obama had 1,562 delegates, including separately chosen party and elected officials known as superdelegates. Clinton had 1,461. It takes 2,025 delegates to secure the Democratic nomination.

For the night, Clinton won at least 185 delegates and Obama won at least 173.

Clinton's victory in Ohio won her only 9 more delegates than Obama, with two delegates still to be awarded. In Texas, Clinton won four more delegates than Obama in the primary. But Obama trimmed Clinton's lead to a single Texas delegate in the party caucuses. There were still 10 delegates to be awarded in the caucuses.

The candidates vied for 370 delegates in four states: Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island and Vermont. But the Democrats' system of awarding delegates proportionally made it hard for either candidate to post big gains. Also, Texas had a two-step system, with about two-thirds of its delegates awarded in a primary, and the rest in party caucuses.

The results enabled Clinton to reclaim momentum after losing 12 straight nominating contests to Obama. However, Obama maintained his delegate lead with fewer chances remaining for Clinton to catch up.

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:19 PM
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1. Time to get off the fence Dean to save your party
Hillary's wins yesterday werent the kind of blowouts that Democratic pollsters said she needed to have a viable chance.

Stop this before it gets out of hand Dean.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:22 PM
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2. Yes, with these small gains, she is demanding the nomination
Time for some negative Clinton-style campaigning!
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:22 PM
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3. SHUT UP!!! YOUR MAKING SENSE!
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:28 PM
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4. K & R
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:40 PM
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5. Kick
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:53 PM
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6. Delegates so close it doesnt matter anymore.
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 03:54 PM by Texas Hill Country
Hillary will win the rust/iron belt states, Obama will take the mountain west. It will be so close that the superdelegates will have to make a decision OR they will have to give MI and FL a do over.

if the superdelegates make the decision:

they will go for hillary because she STOMPED Obama in FL and Ohio, the only two states that really matter in a GE. All 48 other states are already decided and have been for decades... the west coast, northeast and rust/iron belt goes Democrat... the south, south west and mountain states go Republican. In addition, her "comeback" will signal that the wind has changed and as stuff about Obama comes out, there is a change of heart in the party.

The ONLY states that win GE are FL and Ohio, and they prefer Hillary by HUGE margins. Also, if Hillary agrees to give Obama the VP slot, then the SD's will swing her way.


if the superdelegates dont make the decision, then they will have to give FL and MI a re-do. the republican governor of FL is calling for it too, and as things move along, this is looking more likely.

if this goes to the convention, it will tear the party apart and Hillary will most likely come on top but the party would be wrecked.

Obama can win in one and only one way... win PA. If he does not, and the likelihood is very small, he is dead in the water.

If Obama does win, either by winning PA or somehow pulls it out at the convention (perhaps with his magic wand LOL), then he will loose to McCain. Period. If he does win the nod, and looses to McCain, he is a career Senator and his rise is over.

If Hillary wins the nod, and gives Obama the VP slot, she will beat McCain and we will have 16 years of Democrats in the White House.
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