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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:33 PM
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Obama Supporters
Ok we had a bad night.The MSM will be pumping up Hillary for awhile despite the fact last night she only won a small number of overall delegates than he.He has won 25 states plus Washington DC and the Virgin Islands.She has won 14.Obama won the blue states of hawaii,Washington State,Minnesotta,
Wisconsion,Illinois,Maryland,Maine,and Connectuit.Plus Bush states that could be In play Colorado,
Iowa,Missouri,Virginia.Of course the media won't report this.They keep reporting Hillary's attacks and give her ads free air time.Plus always air more of her speeches than her(I mean campaign speechs of course they air his speeches on election nights)Obama Is hit on all sides by the Clintons,Mccain,The Media and nader.The Clintons are using Kark Rove's playbook.The Media will Ignore the fact the Clintons pushed NAFTA and Hillary publicly was for It till she ran for president.Ignore the fact the Clintons pushed for wellfare reform that hurts women and has no plan to save social security.She attacked Obama wanting to raise the cap to get the wealthy to pay more In Social security taxes as a tax Increase.She voted for the bankrupticy bill and Obama voted against It.Untill she ran for president was aginst timetables to get out of Iraq when Obama was for them.The big winner last night was Mccain.Some like Chris Matthews will beguin their pumping of Mccain.Hillary has beguin using the first Mccain ads against Obama.And against Hillary Mccain can use the excepernce card she used against Obama.And he can call her a flip flopper on Iraq.
With Hillary many of the new young voters will stay home.Some blacks could do the same as well as some anti-war Liberals like me.To win Independent voters we need Obama.Plus the same study that said 20 percent of white democrats would vote for mccain with Obama showed Obama getting more Republican crossover votes and winning Independents.And anyone who thinks that Hillary will pick Obama as her VP If she gets the nomination are deluding themselves.The CLintons have proved they care nothing about the Democratic party.They only care about themselves.Her VP would be a early CLinton supporter like Evan bayh or Tom Vilsack.If she gets the nomination I go from a Democrat to a Independent who leans democrat.I will not vote for her.And with all those supporters of her saying they would not vote for Obama here they have no right to bash me.I won't be voting for Mccain,or Nader eather.I will vote for the Democrat for congress and Missouri Democratic candiates but noone for President If Obama Isn't the nomineee.If Edwards,Richardson,Dodd,Biden,Kunchich would have ended up as the nominee I could easily vote for them but not Hillary.If Obama picks Hillary fr his VP to unite the party If he wins I can tolerate technily vote for her but never as President.And the fact many also Ignore she could cost us congress If she Is the nominee.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:37 PM
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1. This is impossible to read. Please use paragraphs.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:39 PM
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3. are you ever right?
and how about #2.

What has happened here???
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MeLodyRyes1214 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:38 PM
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2. Democratic Primary: Race, Racism or Change-ism!
I would like to remind the existing and remaining Obama supporters that "the fight for change is not over!" Forget the fat lady and remember Hillary Clinton, who used every dirty tactic in the book to win, despite the Democratic party and the American people who make it up. It is unfortunate that in the year 2008 we see these divisional tactics being used, from the plagiarism card, the race card, the religion card, the patriotic card, the fear card and oh do not forget the "whine card" (because the media was treating her unfairly because she is a white female candidate - No, she is a Clinton remember). The media downplayed the SNL skit about $itches get stuff done and $itch is the new black but diced up the mocking of Obama. I really do not get that! I do not want to seem too far left or too far right but, it is what it is. The idea that the media can talk about most Hispanics won't vote for a black man and 50% of white women won't vote for a black man but will vote for Clinton however negate the across the board vote for Obama is ridiculous (are you kidding me) and now from the look of Ohio and Rhode Island neither will 55% of white men and women in either state. This is all predicated on racial divides and social classes that still exist in this "United States of America!" The media keeps talking about the people surveyed in the exit polls and I or, nobody I know was surveyed in Texas or any other states about either candidate on any of the issues, experience, presidency or otherwise. I swear for once in my life (and I spent 16 years in the military) and I never experienced what I have experienced over the past month, as Obama supporters rallied and campaigned for change (the feeling was amazing) and even as I write this my heart aches because of the disgust I feel for ignorance, racism and place-ism. For once in America I have seen people of all ages, social demographics, race and understanding come together for something other than a Natural Disaster, a Common Threat, or Hunger and Poverty "believing in a truth, that we are ready." And in one day and a night I feel like we are no closer to understanding what is really going on because of division and ignorance and race. Is Hillary Clinton or the Clinton's really concerned about the people or is it individual gain for one family and why would Clinton supporters insist that this primary go on for another five months while the economy spirals out of control each day, and the war abroad is shifting toward destruction (there and here), while people still are without work and are still going without health care coverage and while the less fortunate, the unaffected and the dissatisfied fade into the shadows. While the republicans and John McCain savor victory because one Democrat is to busy trying to win at whatever cost and while humiliating and destroying a party although the other candidate is winning by the numbers and for what, "the people" or "one families individual legacy and gain?" For the remaining states all I can say is "get it done swiftly" so we can focus on November or we will loose it all in the end. If you are a Obama supporter then let us get this done the way we know we can or "we" the American people will all loose! As much as I know in my heart that racism motivated some of the results last night and as much as I know in my heart the news media is more hurtful than helpful and just another form of reality TV I have to tell you that it is not about me or my personal feelings it is about us, my family, your family, my future, your future, our youths future and where we want to be. Remember, the world is truly watching America. We can show strength and unity or we can show weakness, separation and vulnerability. We still have a choice, we just need not be afraid to choose what we already know and want.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:41 PM
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4. Blabity...blahh ....
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