Calling all Clinton supporters, outline your path to the nomination please

[Seen the light]

I'm still curious as to how this will work. Are you banking on winning states like North Carolina? Perhaps a Florida and Michigan revote? How would those work exactly? Even if they DID revote, would it still be mathematically possible to overtake Obama in the pledged delegate count?

I guess what I'm asking is that I know that Clinton supporters are excited today and they should be, but how does last night's results change things for her chances to get the nomination?

[jgraz]

1. I tried this last night. I hope you like listening to crickets.

[papau]

2. no one can get enough elected delegates to lock down nomination - she's winning

states we must win in Nov - that just might influence supers - plus she may well enter convention with more total primary votes than Obama - a bit of a moral claim for the supers to consider.

[ProSense]

4. Everything in your post is false. n/t

[Phillycat]

7. We don't need to win Ohio in the GE? Were you napping in 2004?

[ProSense]

16. How many of those voters who voted for Hillary yesterday

will vote for McCain in November?

Ohio: Less than one million voted in the Republican primary compared to more than 2.1 million in the Democratic primary.

[Seen the light]

6. If she enters with more popular votes, I would agree

That would be devastating to the Obama campaign. However, it's going to be *extremely* difficult to get that done. Obama still has plenty of blowout victories to come in states like North Carolina with sizable populations. I have no doubt that Clinton has some wins to come as well, but blowouts? Not likely, not likely in any of them.

[yourout]

3. Her only path to the nomination involves threats and Lawyers.

As I read somewere...."She has to get close enough to litigate her way to the nomination"

[AllexxisF1]

5. I would love to know this too.

How exactly Clinton backers do you expect to win?

Because they way things look it seems she would have to win handily the majority of the remaining states. She would need the courts to overturn the decision about Florida and Michigan and then conduct massive back room dealings with the super delegates and force a fight on the convention floor.


Is that how you really want our Presidential canidate to be picked?


Do you really want the vast majority of the electorate to be overturned by a convention bar room brawl?


If she does this and becomes the nominee, 1/2 the democrats and the young voters will simply walk away and not vote in November because they will feel as though they have been cheated.

You will in effect be electing Grand Pa Moses.

[Skoods]

8. Miracles...

[Citizen Kang]

9. It disturbs me how many Hillary supporters

would be OK with subverting democracy and litigating their way to victory like Bush did in 2000. They are not true Democrats and would be better off in the GOP.

[rodeodance]

10. an obamafolk once again being FOOLISH by calling out clintonfolk! sillyness.

[LostinVA]

11. I started a thread about it

[Apollo11]

12. Persuade Barack to accept a Clinton Obama ticket in 2008

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[Apollo11]

20. I said nothing about an Obama Clinton ticket.

And I don't think I like the sound of your insinuation ...

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

14. Very Simple...

This is not a prediction of what WILL happen, this is only a conceivable path to the nomination.

1) Hillary does well enough in PA, IN, KY, NC and PR that the pledged delegate margin is less than 100 delegates when it's all over.

2) Hillary reasserts a 10-14 point lead in all national polling of Dems and Dem leaning Indys, and holds it until the convention.

3) Hillary gains a clear polling edge over Obama in match-ups with McCain, and holds it until the convention.

In that scenario, Hillary would be the nominee. The party will find a way to go with who they think will Win in November.

(And in the scenario described, many Obama voters from February would applaud the switch... most people who have voted for Obama or Clinton did so because they wanted to pick a winner.)

[thewiseguy]

18. That would be the end of the democratic party

To give the candidate who has won less delegates the nomination! Way to go.

And what polls are you exactly talking about? As if polls tend to be correct!

Yes eeeeh I was looking at this Rasmussen matchup poll last night and I liked it, i say we give the nomination to Hillary. Polls say people prefer her over McCain. Yeaaa!

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

23. What drama!

You have some bizarre idea that everyone who has voted for Obama is a kamikazee. The great majority of all primary voters are trying to pick a winner. If events play out so that it looks like another candidate is likelier to win, those voters would be perfectly happy with a decision to switch.

Most Dems want to win. Period.

I support Clinton. If Obama crushes her in match-ups vs McCain for the next three months, I would gladly support a switch to Obama. That's basic stuff for most voters.

[dana_b]

21. the only real answer in this thread

It seems a plausible situation. Hopefully they don't go the route of lawsuits though. That will destroy so much momentum in the party that has been built.

[TomClash]

15. Here's HIllary's strategy

1. Bash Barack at every turn

2. Mock him by condescendingly suggesting she might choose him as her VP

3. Scream for the party to seat Florida and Michigan delegates based on the primary votes

4. Demand that the superdelegates vote for her because she won "the Big States"

5. Claim that she has the momentum after winning on March 4

6. Finally, complain that she's being treated unfairly after losing 9 of the final 12 states.

[ficus1]

17. Convince all the uneducated yokels in America that

Obama is a Muslim terrorist. Then do some wheeling-dealing at the Convention. Then lose to McCain in November by Mondalesque margins. It's a brilliant plan.

[Independent-Voter]

24. Pretty much. When your base are elderly, less educated women, you go with what works

[me b zola]

22. Continue to hide the fact that she supports the privatization of social security!

Even the republicans rejected the same plan when bush* was running around pushing this hideous plan.

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