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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:10 AM
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Do Democrats really want to spend the next 8 years talking about what (or who) Bill Clinton has been
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 11:13 AM by GumboYaYa
doing since he left office?

Bill is so self indulgent that he could not even keep his pants on in the oval office. Does anyone really think that he has kept them on the past 8 years that Hillary was in D.C.? Does anyone really think that the media isn't holding back on the "who has Bill been doing lately" stories until Hillary gets the nomination? Does anyone really think that the Republicans aren't going to do everything to remind the country about Bill's and Hillary's definition of "family values"?

Hillary threw the kitchen sink at Barrack, they attacked his race, his credibility, and his religion, in some of the most aggressive and underhanded attacks I have ever seen in a Democratic primary, yet she barely eeks out victories and gains virtually no delegates.

Everyone assumes that Hillary has been vetted, but it is a virtual certainty that this is not true. Hillary wants to put Barrack through the Republican meat grinder herself to see if he can survive, maybe it is time to do the same to Hillary. I can only imagine what we will find if we start to ask who Bill has been doing lately?
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:12 AM
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1. Blah, blah, blippity, blah.............
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:19 AM
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15. If we put our heads in the sand and act like it won't happen, it will go away.
Certainly no Republican will ever bring this up.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:12 AM
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2. If we spend 8 years talking about the Big Dog's Harlem office, we'll
do well.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:53 AM
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35. we'll be hearing about the Clintons' stratospheric rise in wealth soon. It's filthy money
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:56 AM
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36. An author's royalties and lecture fees? Nonsense. You want our
candidates to take a vow of poverty and still win elections?
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:00 PM
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37. If its that simple, why no tax returns?
There aren't any fees paid from multinational corporations with interests contrary to democratic values in there, are there?
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:50 PM
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47. Because it distracts you n/t
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:12 AM
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3. yes - as long as the only true fighter for the left - Hillary - is in the Whitehouse
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:13 AM
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10. So when's she going to start fighting FOR the left instead of AGAINST us?
On "Day One?" :eyes:

NGU.


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:35 AM
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32. Yeah - show me what fight she took on against BushInc. Clintons PROTECT Bushes
and they always will. You know it and approve because you invested yourself into a Team Name. Just like the Republicans did with the Bushes.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:12 AM
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4. looks like YOU're eager to start us off again with those right-wing talking points
It must pain you.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:21 AM
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18. that is what hillary is playing to with obama. her supporters tell me it is a good thing
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:30 AM
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27. hi seabeyond
we don't have the most progressive choices here . . . the stink's on both of them. Like it or not, the general election is going to draw both sides to whatever is the center these days. Lot's of muck in the center to throw around. His supporters say Obama is looking to scoop up a handful . . .
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:12 AM
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5. The Clinton narratives are all in place, just waiting for the RW freaks to activate them.
NGU.


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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:13 AM
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8. Obama's a blank slate
:shrug:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:15 AM
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12. If the righties want to tarnish him, they're going to have to start from scratch.
NGU.


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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:17 AM
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14. and, they will.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:23 AM
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20. Of course they will, but there's no guarantee it will have the traction...
...that the Clinton narratives inevitably will.

NGU.


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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:23 AM
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23. old movies rarely draw crowds
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:25 AM
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25. Hate to break it to you, big boy, but this isn't a movie.
NGU.


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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:32 AM
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30. yes it is.
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 11:33 AM by bigtree
a really big show
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:35 AM
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31. Is that you, Ghost of Ronald Raygun??...
:rofl:

NGU.


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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:38 AM
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33. you really don't want to bring up Reagan, do you?
Obama's model for his presidency?
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:25 AM
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26. Sequels often do well and they don't take a lot of creativity to write.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:05 PM
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43. But they never live up to the original.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:50 PM
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56. That describes my fear of a Hillary presidency.
Been there done that, there is no reason to suffer through the sequel.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:13 AM
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6. Blah, blah, blippity, blah............
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:13 AM
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7. Second Clenis! of the day! Ya gotta get up earlier if you want to catch the worm!
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 11:13 AM by Beausoir
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:13 AM
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9. The only one who seems to enjoy talking about it is you
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:23 AM
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22. That's right, no Republican like stalking about this.
I am sure they will not try to remind the country of the troubles the Clintons' moral "looseness" put the country through.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:15 AM
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11. They'll talk about how glad Middle East leaders are to have him back. nt
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:16 AM
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13. Don't Fear The Clenis
From all accounts it's all of six inches with the circumference of a half dollar piece...It won't bite you if you don't bite it...
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:19 AM
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16. do you mean like the past 7 years?
Gee, it always seems like a Repuke can't draw breath without implicating Bill Clinton in some skirt-chasing event ...
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:20 AM
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17. i think all th obama people should be doing nothing BUT talking about this
reminding hte nation four years past and what we will walk into bring hillary back

now..... obama has stayed away form this, but i am told by hillary supporters this is all good, dirty politics is good politics. there is vince suicide we can look into. and hillarys investment growing so quickly and a woman stayin with a strayin man and if that is really what a strong woman does.......
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:23 AM
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19. All Team Clinton really has to do is remind people how great the economy was
in the 90s!

The Clinton Miracle Economy.

Floated ALL boats not just the rich.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:23 AM
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21. They can't because then NAFTA comes up.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:25 AM
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24. The Obamaniacs are worried. The HYPE may not win after all.

A lot of Americans just don't like bald-faced liars and phonies like Obama.
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roesch Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:31 AM
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28. Not just big dog
Does it ever make you wonder why so many past Clinton supporters, including the guy how ran his campaign in 92, now side with Obama? Look they had their eight years, the next four will not be an improvement, which I doubt will happen as all the Rush votes will dry up once she get the nomination.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:32 AM
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29. Apparently yes.
This race is'nt about the past BTW..it's about who can lead us into the future.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:49 AM
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34. Forgetthe past, I am worried about what fresh hell Bill and his indulgences will
put the party through. His inappropriate affair with a college age employee in the Oval Office (ick, it still disgusts me) cost us 8 years of George Bush.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:01 PM
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38. Clinton supporters act like time froze in 2000
When they repeat the "Oh but Clinton has been fully vetted! There's nothing new they can come up with!"

Please. Bill's extramarital exploits have been quite frequent, from what I hear. It's said he's got a girlfriend in every port these days. The GOP has been strangely silent about them. Wonder why. And then there's the Clintons' affinity for sleazy characters with deep pockets. Wait until the crap about Ron Burkle comes out.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:01 PM
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39. No, they want to spend the time talking about how Michelle hates America and feels SHAME...
for her country. They want to talk about Rezko/Obama and what crooked deals they made together and they want to go into the details of Obama's COCAINE usage, dosage and transactions.

THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:04 PM
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42. They already are and so is Hillary...we haven't even heard the start
of what Bill has been doing lately. A little bird told me that there has been a lot of dirty laundry piling up while Hillary was away in D.C.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:40 PM
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45. And a "little bird told me" that Obama's drug usage was not just a while ago...
and that there is MORE TO THAT STORY and it needs to see the light of day.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:19 PM
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49. Once again that rumor is already out there.....what fresh controversy are the Clinton's
hiding. We will start to get a taste over the next few days. It won't be pretty, but as the Clinton supporters have told us, "better to get that stuff out now."
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:32 PM
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54. Same goes for Obama. Sniff sniff. Snort Snort.
I can't wait to watch the fur fly. Of course, Obama has always said that his candidacy is about "HOPE" and "Change"..."he's an outsider"...he's "above the fray"...he's "not business as usual".

Obama will be proven to be the Chicago Charlatan he has always been. Just one more dirty and desperate politician.

Hillary will win the nomination and Obama will go back to serve as Counsel for the Syrian born Slumlord (and Obama's good buddy), Antoin Rezko.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:03 PM
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40. Get used to it. Last night at the caucuses I heard people ask if "Bill was still fucking the help".
Yeah, re-living the 1000 scandals of the 90s sounds like so much fun.

x(
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:43 PM
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46. I've heard people ask if "Obama is still snorting COCAINE". Gotta love that.
I wonder where he got the drugs? Did he find them somewhere? Where they gifts? Did money exchange hands? Did he supply? etc.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:02 PM
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48. Obama is refreshingly candid. The Clinton Machine got a president IMPEACHED for their lies. -eom
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 01:03 PM by Justitia
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:29 PM
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51. Obama "CANDID"? He first told us he hardly knew the Syrian Slumlord Antoin Rezko. He lied.
Obama's known Rezko well enough to have made a cozy little real estate transaction together. The only thing "CANDID" about Obama is his smile.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:42 PM
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52. Yeah, get back to me when he's brought up on charges. You know, like the Clinton White House. -eom
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:24 PM
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53. You know I will.
:hi:
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:04 PM
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41. New phrase: the Bush/Clinton elite.
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CampDem Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:12 PM
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44. Bill is self indulgent
but I don't really see how this will ever be Hillary's fault. It may be because I am socially liberal, but I'd still vote for Hillary if he was screwing the whole Dallas cowboy cheerleader squad. :hippie:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:20 PM
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50. Speaking of Bill Clinton, where is he?
That I would really like to know. My guess is he's running her campaign now, which is why she was able to turn it around so quickly.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:36 PM
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55. "Bill is so self indulgent that he could not even keep his pants on in the oval office."
Sounds like something you'd see on another website.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:55 PM
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58. I'm not quite sure how anyone can deny the truth of that statement.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:51 PM
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57. I read a while back that a couple of newspapers are sitting on new BIMBO eruptions.
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Bilyb Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:01 PM
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59. I think a lot of Americans DO want to see Bill in the tabloids again.
Everyone loves a train wreck. The Clintons are in the paper with some new scandal almost every week and there's a lot of people that love to see the "Elite" shoot themselves in the foot.

Now, who is it that the National Enquirer, etc cater to??? Uneducated, unemployed, low income... I may see a pattern here ;-)
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