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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:33 AM
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The sound we all hear this morning, is the hissing air escaping the balloon of History.

Celebrations are premature, and not warranted. It is critical that a very complete examination of who voted where, and why they voted, take place.

We are not the masters of our own destiny. The Republicans always manage to have a say. They spoke loud yesterday, when they crossed over in Ohio to vote for Clinton.

At the end of the day, issues and message do not carry the vote. It is the game, and how the game is played. Just ask Gore and Kerry.

Many months ago, national polls showed John Edwards beating any Republican in head to head match-ups.

I said to myself. I want to win in November, and although i believe Clinton is smart, and Barack visionary, it is not what I believe that counts, it is what the nation at large, will support.

And although Edwards won many of the debates, the people looked right past him and on to History.

History has a very good chance of not being made in November. And it will not be because of the candidate, nor the message. It will be because the majority of the American voters will not want to be subjected to the on-going bickering that has a good chance of continuing until the convention.

We political junkies may have a stomach for the fight, but hear me out....the majority of the American voters will not.

All of the "yes buts" and "he said she said" and "did you know" and "what about" and on and on and on.....do not matter at the end of the day.

Fighting about minuita is exactly what the GOP loves about the Democrats.

The GOP will count on all of the new, young voters to leave the voter pool with disgust, and return to their life before politics.

I hope I am wrong. But for now, all I know is the History of how political campaigns have gone in the past, and how we Democrats have been so sure we would win, and didn't.








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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:34 AM
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1. More Republicans voted for Obama than Clinton yesterday
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 08:35 AM by Lirwin2
Like sharks, they sensed blood, and voted for the weaker candidate (Obama)

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#TXDEM

Go to page 4.

Obama got 54% of Republicans, Clinton got 47%
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:45 AM
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5. It's really all the Republicans have.
Their party has made a disaster of this country over the part seven years and even they are sick of it. All the Repub talking heads and campaign strategists have left is the Democratic infighting. (And taking into account all the Republicans who voted Democratic this time around, that ain't much).
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:47 AM
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6. of "registered" Texas Democrats......67% voted for Clinton ....end of story!
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:06 AM
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9. I will look for the Ohio data, which I believe to be different than Texas.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:35 AM
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2. Check the little red headline at the top of Drudge.
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 08:36 AM by JohnnyLib2
We have two very sharp politicians. No use ruling out any possible moves for any of them.

No need to spank me for the Drudge part. The story will get coverage elsewhere today.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:40 AM
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3. I always thought
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 08:44 AM by CJCRANE
Clinton/Obama was a good ticket...but are those two even on speaking terms any more?

On edit: Doesn't the VP get to be "President of the Senate"? Sounds like a good title to me.

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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:41 AM
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4. You're not wrong.
Even I'm exhausted, and I love this shit.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:50 AM
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7. I think a Clinton win will destroy the party.
Obama represents youth and people of color. If we lose either, the party will die. IMO, it's that serious.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:52 AM
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8. And Sen Clinton represents
women and the working class. Try and win an election without those groups.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:08 AM
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10. Just like he said, looks like the party will implode.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:10 AM
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12. No it wont
This board in no way represents the party as a whole. The vast majority of dems will vote for whoever the nominee is. Those that don't can live with cutting off their noses.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:14 AM
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14. Dems may go with the nominee, but the swing voters may well get disgusted
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:15 AM
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15. Or enjoy life in another country after McLame is elected. n/t
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:08 AM
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11. I'm a working class woman.
I don't want her representing me....
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:12 AM
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13. Do what you gotta do (eom)
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