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WDIM Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:13 AM
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Clinton War Criminal
Do we really think this kind of foreign policy will keep us safe?

http://www.agitprop.org.au/stopnato/19990607clintoncriminal.php

Compared to Bill Clinton and his accomplices, Slobodan Milosevic is a piker when it comes to war crimes. Take Iraq. The sanctions imposed by the United States in 1991 have had a devastating effect on Iraq’s civilian population, particularly the children.

By the end of 1995 alone, the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization said that after careful investigation, it had determined that as many as 576,000 Iraqi children had died as a result of sanctions. Using figures from Iraq’s Ministry of Health, the World Health Organization estimated that 90,000 Iraqis were dying every year in Iraq’s hospitals, over and above those who would have expired at the normal rate.

In sum, it is beyond argument that the United States engineered a program of enforced scarcity that has caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians.

In 1996, Madeleine Albright was asked the following question on CBS’ “60 Minutes” by Lesley Stahl: “We have heard that half a million children have died (in Iraq). I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And you know, is the price worth it?"

Albright infamously replied, “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price — we think the price is worth it.”

The protocols of the Geneva Convention of 1949 prohibit bombing not justified by clear military necessity. If there is any likelihood the target has a civilian function, then bombing is forbidden. NATO’s bombers have damaged and often destroyed Serbian hospitals and health-care centers, public housing, infrastructure vital to the well-being of civilians, refineries, warehouses, agricultural facilities, schools, roads and railways. If the war ends with a negotiated settlement and Slobodan Milosevic goes on trial before the International Criminal Court, Clinton, Albright and Defense Secretary William Cohen should have their place on the court’s calendar, too.

And they may face that fate. Under the terms of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia — a body set up by the U.N. Security Council in 1993 — anyone can file formal complaints for the tribunal’s prosecutor in The Hague, Justice Louise Arbour, to consider within the terms of the Geneva Convention.

Thus far, there have been three serious requests for investigation and indictment against the NATO leaders for their conduct against Serbia.

Lawyers in Canada, Britain and France are now working together. Already, the Canadian team has sent Arbour requests for indictment against 67 persons for war crimes — including Bill Clinton. to NATO spokesman Jamie Shea, whom Canadian lawyer Michael Melman likened in role to William Joyce a k a Lord Haw-Haw, a propagandist for the Nazis hanged by the Allies at the end of World War II.

Canadian attorney Michael Melman, who is also a law professor at York University in Toronto, says, “We have a great case. It will be a good test to see whether the law actually applies to powerful people.” Among the indictable war crimes in the complaint prepared by the Canadian lawyers are: the wanton destruction of cities, towns and villages not caused by military necessity; the bombardment of undefended towns; the willful destruction of or willful damage done to institutions dedicated to religion, charity or education (i.e., monasteries, hospitals and schools, all hit by NATO’s bombs). “They’ve admitted publicly the essentials of all these crimes,” Melman says.

The suspicion is that the tribunal is a legislative appendage of NATO’s war machine. After all, the indictment of Milosevic had been ardently pressed by the United States and Britain, and came at a convenient moment when public appetite in the West for the bombing was waning rapidly. What better way for this intrinsically dubious institution to demonstrate its objectivity than to indict the NATO gang?
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:27 AM
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1. Hint: 1991 - W sr was in office. Second hint: Wjr actually invaded Irag...
Third hint: Clinton hating neo-sheep should go to a pro-McCain board.
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WDIM Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:30 AM
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4. Funny
Neo-Cons would never call anything the US did War Crimes. Even if its against Clinton. Get a clue.
Hillary is tying herself to her Husband's foreign policy as her "foreign policy" experience. Well we should take a close look at Clinton's foreign policy then.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:28 AM
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2. Fuck this lying shit.
You're on the wrong website, genius. Take a right to get to freeperville. Hopefully you'll do it soon or be forced not to post your stinking shit here.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:29 AM
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3. GMAFB! n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:31 AM
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5. I Hear She Maintains A Crematorium In The Backyard Of Her Chappaqua Home
:sarcasm:
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WDIM Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:35 AM
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6. Truth hurts?
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 08:40 AM by WDIM
Golden boy Clinton is just as bad as the neo-con republicans. Is your mass media controlled world falling apart? The true color of this board is showing itself.
Show me something factual to dispute these claims or are you guys nothing but name calling little children that don't remember the horrible waste the Clinton Regime was.

Here some more

http://www.workers.org/ww/1998/clinton0903.php

What about the target? It is illegal to destroy nonmilitary targets. The Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory produced more than 50 percent of all medicines used by the people of Sudan. Sudanese and foreign experts with intimate knowledge of the factory deny that it produced anything but medicine.

Had the U.S. government previously protested to the Sudanese government about this factory? Not once. In fact, a few months ago the U.S.-dominated Sanctions Committee at the United Nations signed contracts with the very same Al-Shifa factory to send medicines to Iraq under the Oil for Food program.

If the U.S. allegations about the factory were not blatantly false, why did the U.S. refuse to support a UN resolution backed by Arab and African countries to immediately dispatch a UN inspection team to the wrecked factory to look for evidence of chemical weapons production?

"I don't see what the purpose of a fact-finding study would be," Peter Burleigh, the U.S. deputy representative to the UN, arrogantly announced at the UN Security Council on Aug. 24. Using its power, it took the United States exactly 10 minutes to quash the resolution calling for an independent investigation.

Since the U.S. bombing destroyed an African-built factory that provides vital medicines to a very poor country, you would think the Clinton administration would welcome an independent investigation to confirm its claims that chemical weapons were being secretly produced there. Didn't Clinton say in his speech that he had "convincing information"?

Yet no voice in the U.S. mass media and no U.S. politician has dared to support the call for an independent investigation. It is as if there were a silent mental transference among these officials: "How dare these colonial slaves demand the right to see the evidence!"

A crime against humanity

The whole world knows that the U.S. ruling class politicians are lying. The Pentagon destroyed a nonmilitary target. Because the U.S. imposes severe economic sanctions on Sudan, the country is unable to get the hard currency it needs to buy sufficient medicine on the world market. Thus, Sudan built this huge pharmaceutical factory inside the country to provide medicine for the people.

That factory has now been deliberately destroyed. This destruction of a nonmilitary target, by the standards of international law, is clearly prohibited as a "crime against humanity" and thus a war crime.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:45 AM
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7. LOL!! I don't particularly care for Bill Clinton. Never did, but
your moronic viewpoint is completely without perspective or knowledge. It was the U.N. that imposed the sanctions. Yes the U.S. supported them, and yes they were destructive and tragic, but it is hardly ALL on Bill Clinton's head. Furthermore, that asshole Saddam bears a good amount of the blame for the deaths of children in Iraq.

I, for one, don't live in a mass media world. I live in the back of beyond, don't have TV or even trash radio.

Bill Clinton is/was not as bad as the neocons. He certainly made some big fucking errors in judgment, but this is not the best of all worlds. There has never been a President that didn't make some grievous misjudgments. You live in a moronically simple Manichean world of good and evil. That's not the real world.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:50 AM
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8. I thought she was a traitor who cackles. Now I'm confused.
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WDIM Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:02 AM
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9. I'm not the only one.
http://www.iacenter.org/warcrime/wct2000.htm

FINAL JUDGEMENT OF THE COMMISSION OF INQUIRY TO INVESTIGATE U.S./NATO WAR CRIMES AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF YUGOSLAVIA

Final Judgement

The Members of the Independent Commission of Inquiry to Investigate U.S./NATO War Crimes Against the People of Yugoslavia, meeting in New York, having considered the Initial Charges and Complaint of the Commission dated July 31, 1999 against President William J. Clinton, Gen. Wesley Clark, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, Prime Minister Tony Blair, Chancellor Gerhard Schroder, President Jacques Chirac, Prime Minister Massimo D’Alema, Prime Minister Jose Maria Azmar, the Governments of the United States and the other NATO member states, former Secretary General Javier Solana and other NATO leaders, and Others with nineteen separate Crimes Against Peace, War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity in violation of the Charter of the United Nations, the 1949 Geneva Conventions, other international agreements and customary international law;

Having the right and obligation as citizens of the world to sit in judgement regarding violations of international humanitarian law;

Having heard the testimony from Commissions of Inquiry and Tribunals held within their own countries during the past year and having received reports from numerous other Commission hearings which recite the evidence there gathered;

Having been provided with documentary evidence, eyewitness statements, photos, videotapes, special reports, expert analyses and summaries of evidence available to the Commission;

Having access to all evidence, knowledge and expert opinion in the Commission files or available to the Commission staff;

Having been provided by the Commission, or otherwise obtained, various books, articles and other written materials on various aspects of events and conditions in Yugoslavia and other countries in the Balkans, and in the military and arms establishments;

Having considered newspaper coverage, magazine and periodical reports, special publications, TV, radio and other media coverage and public statements by the accused, other public officials and public materials;

Having heard the presentations of the Commission of Inquiry in public hearing on June 10, 2000, and the testimony, evidence and summaries there presented;

And having met, considered and deliberated with each other and with Commission staff and having considered all the evidence that is relevant to the nineteen charges of criminal conduct alleged in the Initial Complaint, make the following findings:

Findings

The Members of the International War Crimes Tribunal find the accused Guilty on the basis of the evidence against them and that each of the nineteen separate crimes alleged in the Initial Complaint has been established to have been committed beyond a reasonable doubt. These are:

1. Planning and Executing the Dismemberment, Segregation and Impoverishment of Yugoslavia.

2. Inflicting, Inciting and Enhancing Violence Between and Among Muslims and Slavs.

3. Disrupting Efforts to Maintain Unity, Peace and Stability in Yugoslavia.

4. Destroying the Peace-Making Role of the United Nations.

5. Using NATO for Military Aggression Against, and Occupation of, Non-Compliant Poor Countries.

6. Killing and Injuring a Defenseless Population throughout Yugoslavia.

7. Planning, Announcing and Executing Attacks Intended to Assassinate the Head of Government, Other Government Leaders and Selected Civilians in Yugoslavia.

8. Destroying and Damaging Economic, Social, Cultural, Medical, Diplomatic -- including the Embassy of the People’s Republic of China and other embassies -- and Religious Resources, Properties and Facilities throughout Yugoslavia. 9 Attacking Objects Indispensable to the Survival of the Population of Yugoslavia.

10. Attacking Facilities Containing Dangerous Substances and Forces.

11. Using Depleted Uranium, Cluster Bombs and Other Prohibited Weapons.

12. Waging War on the Environment.

13. Imposing Sanctions through the United Nations that are a Genocidal Crime Against Humanity.

14. Creating an Illegal Ad-Hoc Criminal Tribunal to Destroy and Demonize the Serbian Leadership. The Illegitimacy of this Tribunal is Further Demonstrated by Its Failure to Bring Any Case Regarding the Oppression of the Romani People, Who Have Suffered the Highest Rate of Casualties of Any People in the Region.

15. Using Controlled International Media to Create and Maintain Support for the U.S. Assault and to Demonize Yugoslavia, Slavs, Serbs and Muslims as Genocidal Murderers.

16. Establishing the Long-Term Military Occupation of Strategic Parts of Yugoslavia by NATO Forces.

17. Attempting to Destroy the Sovereignty, Right to Self-Determination, Democracy and Culture of the Slavic, Muslim, Roma and Other People’s of Yugoslavia.

18. Seeking to Establish U.S. Domination and Control of Yugoslavia and to Exploit Its People and Resources.

19. Using the Means of Military Force and Economic Coercion in Order to Achieve U.S. Domination.


The Members hold NATO, the NATO states and their leaders accountable for their criminal acts and condemn those found guilty in the strongest possible terms. The Members condemn the NATO bombardments, denounce the international crimes and violations of international humanitarian law committed by the armed attack and through other means such as economic sanctions. NATO has acted lawlessly and has attempted to abolish international law.

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