Chances of a Unity Ticket (as a necessity) Have Risen Substantially Today

[JCMach1]

Neither Hillary or Obama alone have been able to build a winning coalition.

Now is the time for the two campaigns to get together, set SOME STANDARD (and stick to it) for taking the top spot on the ticket, cut the negative crap on both sides, and commit to unifying the party AND the nation.

If they can do that, I don't care who is on top... although, for the record, I usually prefer a woman (pun intended).

[cbayer]

1. From your lips to God's ears.

Would that not be beautiful!

[Mojambo]

2. This is true. n/t

[NJSecularist]

3. As an Obama supporter, it's the only way to save the party.

[ORDem]

25. OMG, now Obama supporters are swallowing HRC's latest spin?

She clearly knows she can't win the delegate count now. Her victories were zip in terms of delegates, so she's out there spinning this Unity Ticket crap, trying to sap Obama support, and it appears to be working with you. This woman will do/say anything to win. If this is an indication of how weak the spine of Obama supporters is then you don't deserve to win.

Good grief, she wasted 4 states, no increase in delegates. If she is on the ticket all of our dreams go down the toilet, plus we won't gain the seats in Congress that we desperately need.

:dem:

[WhiteTara]

40. wow what vitriol. Yes unite the party!

Women shouldn't be left out so we can have more men running the country. Women are over 50% of the population and have not had our voice heard either. If we can't work together then as they say, we shall surely all hang alone.

[goclark]

54. Duplicate

[goclark]

55. Duplicate

[goclark]

56. And we have a a fear monger at the top of the ticket

Her best pals are McGramps and Bush

[superkia]

33. Only if Obama were at the top, would I support that ticket. I think...

it was Gore that complained that Hillary was more of a vice president than he was and that he was closed out of allot of the decision making. So if Obama excepts the second seed, you can guarantee Hillary and Bill will be making all of the decisions and continue the elites agenda, while Obama runs around being the nice guy that he is and tries to patch up world relations. We don't need more of the same from our president while Obama becomes the public relations tool. America needs REAL change!

If the elite get their first choice(Clinton) as the nominee, I will be voting for their second choice(McCain). If Clinton wins the GE, the people that Obama has inspired to get involved in their country, will lose all hope and not waste their precious family time fighting for Clinton, most of the other democratic voters will just fall back asleep at the wheel and our country will continue its destructive course at the fast pace that we have seen of late. If McCain wins, at least more people will stay aware of what is taking place because most of the country is against republicans at this point and don't trust them.


It looks like the system is winning at this point, the dirty tricks that we have all excepted as normal politics is winning. Why we continue to except whatever the media throws, I just don't understand. Luckily we are older and will be gone after awhile and it will be our children and grandchildren that will have to suffer. :sarcasm:

By the next election system, we will all probably be so broke that we will except cash to vote for whoever the system wants, that way they don't have to worry about the true patriots getting upset.

[Hoof Hearted]

65. In order for your scenario to work out Obama would have to be an incredibly weak person.

Is that how you see him? I don't.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

37. She must be off her meds, she said last night she "won" Michigan

She has torn at the DNC, attacked the rules of primaries.

[onehandle]

4. I'd back that. nt

[comradebillyboy]

5. ait would be nice, but I wouldn't bet on it ...... nt

[backscatter712]

6. It'd be campaigning while dragging an anchor.

[earthside]

7. Impossible

After old Hill has proclaimed that Obama is incapable of being 'commander-in-chief' ... a 'unity' ticket is now impossible.

[Hoof Hearted]

66. If what you say had any truth, he would have rejected it. He didn't.

[lapfog_1]

8. I don't think so.

Neither candidate will accept being a VP. Especially a VP who won't be an Al Gore VP or a Dick Cheney VP. No way.

[NightWatcher]

9. no way, they hate each other

not gonna happen

[Invidious]

10. Yeah

For all the public commentary..I truly believe that Barack hates Hillary and vice versa at this point.

[debbierlus]

11. They do seem to loathe one and another

[KoKo]

47. They are Politicians....they know how to compromise to work together...

Neither one of them would be where they are today without compromising. Some of us would say...they compromise too much...but it's what we have not what we wanted. We need to deal with it as a party, and both of them realize that.

[Apollo11]

53. Deep down, they kind of like each other!

[goclark]

58. With "friends" like Billary he doesn't need any enemies nt

[Beregond2]

12. Unity

That would amount to both of them declaring themselves to be liars who only ever cared about their own ambitions. Good plan.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

14. The party is pretty much doomed at this point me thinks...

[IDemo]

13. There is zero chance of such a ticket occurring

There is nothing but intense dislike and distrust between these two now. Howard Dean and Jesus Christ together couldn't make this ticket happen. Let it go.

[KoKo]

49. Aren't you personalizing this as to what "you" think...and not the reality?

They are politicians...they fight and then kiss and make up. Think about what goes on in our congress...

[JCMach1]

15. Party leaders should lay the boom down on their egos now!

before it's too late.

[Umbram]

16. Would Clinton be able to remember which candidate she was supposed to attack? (nt)

[Skoods]

17. Should they flip a coin?

Reminds me of Matt Santos saying that to Rob Russell in the sixth season finale of the West Wing.

Heads for Hillary, Tails for Obama...

[woolldog]

18. I would rather see Obama

stay in the Senate, than be her VP.

[elana i am]

19. no.

for one thing i'd be forced to go with my original plan and write in kucinich because i am fundamentally opposed to ANY clinton in the white house EVER again. for another, that would just be double the repugs pleasure. they salivate at the thought of opposing a woman or a black man. they're positively orgasmic about opposing hillary. obama's one true advantage is that he's not hillary, or her even-lesser-half. he doesn't need to be saddled with that because he's got an uphill battle in the general as it is.

[Raine]

67. I agree

I'm so over the Clintons. I don't want Hillary on the ticket with Obama she'd drag him down.

Edit: puncuation

[JCMach1]

20. See Hillary's CBS Morning appearance today

she is thinking along the same lines...

[goclark]

59. I'm sure she is thinking that ~ she needs his supporters

to win.

She should have floated that boat while she was on the Ring Ring

[Wabbajack_]

21. Honestly I like them both

[workinclasszero]

22. Only if Hillary is VP (nt)

[JCMach1]

26. These guys need to sit down with Dean- AGREE to a standard of victory to determine

who will be on top and end the CRAP straight away (crap being negative campaigning and stealth negative campaigning).

[Alamom]

23. Clinton /Obama is all but certain to give us 16 years in the WH. Possibly more

if they do a good job and I believe they will. They can put the best cabinet this country has ever seen together.....


This country needs Democrats in office for many terms to be able to clean up the mess. It's within our grasp.


For those who think they hate each other....this must be your first time.

Candidates run "AGAINST" each other in the primaries.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

35. Clinton will cost us congress - while she laughs all the way to the bank

but you enjoy your vote for her highness, if it makes you feel as if
women are empowered somehow.

[Hoof Hearted]

68. It speaks so much about you that you were able to take a positive, thoughtful post and

return such a sexist, bilious, hate-filled snipe.

[Nedsdag]

69. Are you kidding?

Obama wouldn't be able to get any oxygen because Billary would engulf it all.

Any right minded politician, Obama included, would need to have their head examined if they were to accept the Veep nomination from those two.

[underpants]

24. *sighs* All right I'll do it

:hi:

[JCMach1]

27. Yeah, that giant sucking sound might be the sound of victory...!

:bounce:

[Eurobabe]

28. I don't see it happening. Obama doesn't want the job

as the third wheel. (And we all know who the second wheel is...)

[IndyOp]

29. IMO, if this happens it will be Obama folding under pressure from bullies.

It is not the best possible outcome for our nation.

:thumbsdown:

[tinrobot]

30. Hillary blew that option when she went negative.

I don't see how Obama can join with her after all that divisiveness.

[Wetzelbill]

57. That's what I was thinking too

Plus, if she somehow did get the nomination, I think she'd go with Clark and not Obama as her VP. That gives her more street cred on foreign affairs than McCain could ever dream of having. And you know McCain will be going fear fear fear the whole time. Not easy to do with a general on the ticket.

[backscatter712]

31. Obama/Wormtongue '08!

This campaign will go far!

[The Backlash Cometh]

32. It has my approval.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

34. CHANCES OF A DESTROYED DEMOCRATIC PARTY INCREASED

Hillary will take the democratic party down if that is what it takes for her
to increase her personal fortune of $54 Million to double or more.

[KoKo]

41. A Hillary/Obama Ticket would take the party down? How so?

:shrug:

[Hepburn]

36. Sorry, but....

...a few months ago, I would have agreed. After Hillary's disgusting comments and actions of the last few weeks? NO FUCKING WAY! I would not vote for her for dog catcher....PERIOD!

:grr: I used to merely dislike her...now I actually hate her.

[WillTheGoober]

38. Agreed.

[JDPriestly]

39. I just posted my own opinion on this.

Obama needs to work his magic and bring his supporters together with Hillary's. Hillary needs to prove her political savvy and show that her experience has brought wisdom. They each need to give in on the top spot on the ticket. Maybe they should just draw straws or play scissors, paper, stone. Neither of them can win without the other at this point. They have to form a coalition ticket and they have to make it work.

[JackORoses]

42. Fuck Hillary! She gets nothing for her dirty tactics. Nothing.

[mmonk]

46. I know the feeling but she and her former President husband

can tear holes through this party and get McCain elected. Should we cut off our noses to spite our faces?

[JackORoses]

48. They need to be Exorcised from this Party. Allowing them to remain is much more costly.

[mmonk]

52. Not possible I don't think.

[Hoof Hearted]

71. I think it's so cute how you think you're in charge of Obama's ticket and the whole party.

Delusional, but cute. So if he picks up Hillary as VP, are you going to pop a vein in your forehead or what?

[npincus]

43. I don't think Obama will pick her for his VP.

[Unsane]

44. Hillary's ego precludes her from being Veep.

She will never accept it. It is beneath her.

[Milo_Bloom]

45. The only problem is that Clinton is toxic to the ticket.

Having her on the ticket, will energize the anti-Clinton vote and sway some of those swing voters who are likely to support Obama.

Having Clinton on the top of the ticket would be a blood bath, as there would be no chance of using the single strongest issue... the Iraq war.

[KoKo]

50. That's in the Old Days before Bush/Cheney and LImbaugh Politics destroyed our Country.

All that hate seems pretty distant when you lose your job, have no health insurance and find your country being sold off to the Chinese and Saudi Arabians.

The Politics of Hate has run it's course. It's time to rebuild.

[Milo_Bloom]

60. With Clinton, it still is the old days.

Its the CLinton brand of politics that has led us into this mess.

Free trade enabled under Clinton.
The war, enabled by Clinton's desire to appease the GOP in 1997-98.
Her health care "solution" actually makes the problem worse, because of the same problem... you reach the goal by giving the GOP EXACTLY what it wants... mandated money to the insurance companies. (Note: I think Obama's plan is just as bad, as neither of them address the ACTUAL problem.)

The reason Clinton is toxic is because she isn't the solution... she is a large part of the problem and people recognize that.

[KoKo]

61. Clinton and Obama are all we have...until we kick their butts out in five years, though.

So...we have to hope that both of them see the mistakes of Bill's years...and work to repair them. :-(

[Milo_Bloom]

63. With Obama, we have a chance.

Clinton has shown that she represents the same politics that got us into this mess.

[Apollo11]

51. Clinton Obama 2008. Obama 2012. Obama 2016. What's not to like?

I already started a thread about this scenario a few hours back:
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4899922

[mzmolly]

62. This appears to be the case. I don't see how either can "unite" jack crap without a "unity" ticket?

People are going to be angry if the Super D's decide this election. It matters not that it's part of our "democracy" - how things have been ... "the people" will see this as a slap in the face, just when we're starting to bring our party BACK to the people and out raise Republicans because of it.

[Hoof Hearted]

64. I'm all for it either way as long as she's in charge of healthcare, which would only be smart

since it's her biggest issue with national security.

[Raine]

70. No, I don't like this idea at all

they both have big negatives and putting them together will double those negatives to the voters. I think it would be the biggest political disaster since McGovern.