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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:38 PM
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People Who Say RACE Was Important Broke 57-43 For Clinton In Ohio


According to MSNBC exit polls, it seems to have put Hillary Clinton over the top.

Relatedly, I don't understand why they're not calling Ohio for Clinton. The exit polls look unambiguous to me -- she's won it. Obama made up a lot of ground over the past two weeks, but she won the state and all that's left to do is figure out the delegate count.

http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/the_crucial_racist_vote.php
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:38 PM
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1. damn crackers
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 09:44 PM by NightWatcher
on edit, I am 3/4 caucasian myself, so I can say 'cracker'.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:46 PM
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16. Racial slurs are wrong - period - by any one any time ---nt
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:49 PM
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19. it's called humor
I forgot we lost our sense of it here
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:53 PM
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25. Oh. It's 2008 -- "Cr$%k*R" and "N&##$R" are not funny at all - EVER - for ANY reason. --nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:13 PM
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33. Look, Comedy Police, comedy is also about the context.
So, put your ticket pad away because you couldn't be more wrong.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:43 PM
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38. Actually they're hysterically funny
particularly in the context of jokes.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:14 PM
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34. LOL.
Yes, you can.

Thanks for the chuckle. :)
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:42 PM
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37. That is just wrong but you know that, right?
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:38 PM
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2. Did they ask if sex was important?
And, I don't mean lack of.

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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:39 PM
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3. Early voting maybe???
Don't know for sure though...
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:40 PM
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5. these were exit polls
not early voting.
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:41 PM
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8. I was answering this...
"Relatedly, I don't understand why they're not calling Ohio for Clinton."
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:39 PM
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4. Looks like Hillary will go 2/4
And make up very little ground in delegates.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:41 PM
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6. I saw on TV this morning that some areas in SE Ohio were giving 10 extra days to vote
due to flooding.

Source:
CNN-International
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:41 PM
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7. Racist bastards
perhaps if they were a bit more educated they'd see the error of their ways. Oh, right. The undereducated once again fell for the "kitchen sink" strategy of Hillary and her co-conspirators.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:43 PM
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10. my ex girlfriend was from Ohio
she used to tell me that Southern Ohio, the part that borders Kentucky, was very racist and that Parma was practically the racist capital of Ohio.

I don't know how true that is, but that's what she told me.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:43 PM
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11. Some might have been worried that race would be...
important in the GE, rather than being particularly racist themselves.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:48 PM
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18. Obama's 86% Black vote was just barely based on race?
That's odd. I am an Obama supporter, by the way.
But this poll question was not answered honestly by some black voters. Surely we can all admit that.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:57 PM
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27. First of all, that poll doesn't answer a basic question.
How many white people said race matters and voted for Hillary?
How many black people said race matters and voted for Obama?
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:44 PM
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39. Yeah, and what exactly does "matters" mean?
Matters in a good way, bad way, indifferent way.???

Stupid exit poll question. Just flaming.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:42 PM
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9. That explains why in her ads...
she was making Obama's skin look darker.

Going for the bigot demographic.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:44 PM
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13. Bingo. Don't tell me the Clintons aren't racists.
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:47 PM
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17. Without a doubt, those 2 are the biggest racists are party has ever seen.
.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:51 PM
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24. I don't think the Clintons are racist
But they have used race-baiting and racist tactics.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:39 PM
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35. Using those tactics makes them racist. n/t
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:47 PM
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41. That is just bullshit.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:43 PM
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12. Congratulations on getting the bigot vote, Hillbots!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:49 PM
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20. Well, genius, this doesn't say whether people asked were
black or white.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:50 PM
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21. Indeed. Undoubtedly a portion of that vote was black.
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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:45 PM
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14. Isn't that something to be proud of ?! n/t
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:45 PM
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15. They ask people if race is important?
I wonder how they frame that question.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:51 PM
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22. The 43% who voted Obama is no small number either.
nt
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:51 PM
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23. I am an Obama supporter, but this is UNFAIR to Hillary
Senator Obama according to the exit polls won 86% of the black vote - yet it's the WHITE voters who supposedly voted based on race?

Please.

With that said ------ GOBAMA!!!!!!!!!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:10 PM
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32. How is it unfair to Hillary to report a stat?
Are numbers now also conspiring against her?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:54 PM
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26. 85% of blacks voted for Obama.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:07 PM
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31. You're jumbling up community support with that other thing. n/t
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I Vote In Pittsburgh Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:59 PM
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28. They aren't calling Ohio for Clinton because the cities haven't reported in yet
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:00 PM
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29. Exactly
It will be very close.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:05 PM
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30. Doesn't anyone understand stat analysis around here ... this
means nothing. If I presented this sort of poorly defined and analytically corrupt dribble, I'd lose my job.

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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:41 PM
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36. Enough about the White vote
Obama killed in Wisconsin, among other very White states.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:44 PM
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40. They called it for McCain with less of a difference - but it's a "nailbiter" for Hillary
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 10:45 PM by robbedvoter
SApeaking of nailbiters, SOS site in Texas shows Hillary ahead with 50.69%:
http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_136_state.htm?x=0&y=0&id=584
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:49 PM
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42. Looks like Obama's race-baiting bit him in the ass.
As it should.

Despicable.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:53 PM
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43. Race & gender are real factors in the race.

Racism and sexism live.

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