The Clintons threw Kerry under a bus in 2004 fairy tale ...

[sjdnb]

BC was campaigning and promoting him during his appearances before and shortly after open heart surgery. But, O supporters are claiming 'the Clintons' turned their back on him, threw him under a bus, etc. in 2004??? Or, perhaps O supporters think BC should have postponed his quad bypass until after the election? Just more unsubstantiated Clinton bashing.

"Only seven weeks after Bill Clinton's heart surgery, the former president and John Kerry campaigned ..."
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/25/politics/campaign/25c...

At the 2004 Dem Convention: Clinton Praises Kerry (transcript)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,127101,00.html

"Kerry is hoping for a boost from Clinton, whose public role in the campaign has been limited since he underwent quadruple coronary artery bypass surgery September 6.

Clinton campaigned Monday evening in Miami, Florida, after his comeback speech earlier in the day in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He travels to Nevada on Friday and New Mexico on Saturday.

On Sunday, Clinton returns to his home state of Arkansas for a campaign event."
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/25/clinton.monda... /

[jlake]

1. K&R!

[MessiahRp]

2. Yeah Clinton supported Kerry when he told him to ditch his principles

(which happens to be a Clinton trait) to go against gay marriage. And it was Clintonite James Carville who stabbed Kerry in the back by announcing his legal manuevering to challenge Ohio to Mary Matalin who reported it to Bush and Rove and got Blackwell to shut it down.

Yeah the Clintons (and their disciples) were great partners.

Rp

[LisaL]

5. What good are your principles if you

ditch them cause someone tells you to?

[MessiahRp]

11. Which is why it was great that Kerry said no and stood up to Bill on this

Progressives don't ditch their beliefs of equality when it's politically expedient to do so.

Rp

[LisaL]

3. He should have postponed the surgery, obviously.

:sarcasm:

[Inspired]

4. I don't believe for a minute that the Clintons wanted Kerry to win. Sorry. n/t

[Dob Bole]

6. True...but this shows why Kerry was a poor choice.

The Clintons are not that popular. Bill Clinton won a plurality in two relatively low-turnout elections. Democrats supported their neoliberal policies (like NAFTA) pretty grudgingly, while Republicans hate their guts for "stealing their ideas." That still didn't matter much, until the fallout from the Lewinsky scandal hurt their image with rural voters and caused Al Gore to lose.

[stillcool]

7. and then...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

[blm]

8. Now what was going on BEHIND The scenes and during Bill's 3 wk BOOK TOUR?

Historian Douglas Brinkley observed in April2004:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

Bill spent THREE WEEKS defending Bush in every HIGH PROFILE interview from the 'criticisms of the left' as he repeated his support for Bush's deceisions. We had a nominee at the time CRITICING BUSH'S DECISIONS from the left.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

Carville SABOTAGED Ohio Dem voters on election night.
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward


Tonya Harding wields the club herself this time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

Hillary 2008.

No wonder Terry McAuliffe refused to secure the election process after 2000s blatant theft.

[msongs]

9. kerry threw himself under the bus when he conceded while his supporters still slept nt

[TheDebbieDee]

12. I know I was pi$$ed! I almost cried.

I couldn't believe he was conceding less than 24 hours after an election in which the exit polls told a completely different story.

And this "Clinton threw Kerry under the bus in '04" is just more Obamacan Revisionist History!

[blm]

18. These accounts predate Obama's campaign. Have YOU won any prizes for YOUR journalism?

Historian Douglas Brinkley made these observations in APRIL2004:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

Bill's 3 week book tour spent more time defending Bush and supporting his decisions on Iraq, while our nominee was Bush's top critic.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

Carville sabotaged Ohio Dem voters on election night - witnessed by Woodward at the WH:
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

Kerry worked for YEARS uncovering IranContra and BCCI - how long did it take Bill Clinton to get into office and deep-six all the outstanding matters, leading us directly to Bush2, 9-11 and this Iraq war?
http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

[LittleClarkie]

26. I did cry. Repeatedly. But I still support him.

And I still have his back.

[sandnsea]

10. Hillary was promoting "stay the course"

while Kerry was promoting a 2005 withdrawal strategy.

Then there's Carville's leak to Matalin about the recount possibilities.

And then there's the joke.

The Clintons don't do anything for anybody except themselves. They don't give a shit about ANY of you supporters, not a one of you.

[sjdnb]

24. Wow, I didn't know Kerry ran for Prez in 2005 or that Carville was

actually Hillary in drag ...

Sheez, the crap some of the O folks come up with is unbelievable.

[ProSense]

13. BS! Bill Clinton, James Carville and Terry McAuliffe are saboteurs

"I have repeatedly defended President Bush against the left on Iraq, even though I think he should have waited until the U.N. inspections were over," Clinton said in a Time magazine interview that will hit newsstands Monday, a day before the publication of his book "My Life."

Clinton, who was interviewed Thursday, said he did not believe that Bush went to war in Iraq over oil or for imperialist reasons but out of a genuine belief that large quantities of weapons of mass destruction remained unaccounted for.

link

Right smack in the middle of the election to make Bush a one-term president.

And releasing a book:

Clinton agreed to let George H.W. Bush retreat gracefully into retirement despite Bush’s brazen attempt to destroy Walsh’s criminal investigation by issuing six pardons to Iran-Contra defendants on Christmas Eve 1992.

In his 2004 memoirs, My Life, Clinton wrote that he “disagreed with the pardons and could have made more of them but didn’t.” Clinton cited several reasons for giving his predecessor a pass.

“I wanted the country to be more united, not more divided, even if that split would be to my political advantage,” Clinton wrote. “Finally, President Bush had given decades of service to our country, and I thought we should allow him to retire in peace, leaving the matter between him and his conscience.”

James Carville

Terry McAuliffe

They're all backstabbing assholes.

[mtnsnake]

14. I think John Kerry is about the only past candidate who could lose quicker to McCain than Obama will

No matter who wins the Democratic Primary, at least we won't be running a dork this time.

[ProSense]

16. Hillary is losing to Obama! n/t

[mtnsnake]

19. Hillary isn't a dork like Kerry. Neither is Obama. That is good news this time.

[ProSense]

21. Kerry endorsed Obama, that was the end of Hillary's inevitability.

It's why the Clinton camp is still so bitter about the endorsement they begged to for, but didn't get.

[mtnsnake]

22. In 2004 Kerry turned out to be nothing more than a plank of wood pretending to be a campaigner

Hillary begged him NOT to endorse her. If she said anything to the contrary, she was just being polite.

Kerry is the LAST person on earth that ANYONE would beg for an endorsement from. The guy is a walking jinx.

[ProSense]

23. Now, you're just resorting to spin. Hillary sent Bill to beg for Kerry's endorsement

Deal with it!

[KittyWampus]

15. Bill Clinton supported Bush's Folly in Iraq even as Kerry acknowledged his mistake.

The Clintons were positioning themselves for this very primary.

[NashVegas]

17. Your First Mistake

Was in not realizing that Obama supporters tend to make up their own version of US history. It's way more fun than the facts.

[ProSense]

20. Nonsense three campaign stops is nothing. Were the Clinton speaking out publicly against the war,

were they making television appearances in support of Kerry?

Kerry is showing how a strong Democrat supports a candidate. The Clintons couldn't even do that when the opponent was Bush.

[LittleClarkie]

25. Actually many who claim that are first and foremost Kerry supporters

It was what Clintonista Carville did in 2004, for one thing, leaking info about Ohio in 2004 to his Republican sweetie, who then reported it to the Bush campaign.

And rumors I've heard that Kerry was double crossed by people in Ohio that he thought were on his side.

And then there was the way she threw him under the bus by joining the Right in condemning him for the botched joke when she should have known full well what he meant.