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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:25 PM
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BWAHAHAHAAH: MSNBC Is predicting -1 to +5 delegate gain for Clinton if she takes OH 51 to 49
ON Now!!!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:27 PM
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1. Chuck Todd is the Analyst. He's done remarkably well so far this primary season.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:27 PM
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2. if she wins the less populated counties obama can come out ahead
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:28 PM
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3. WOW! That would be HUGH!!!!
For Obama...
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:28 PM
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4. and the swing in TX is a max +/- 5
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:28 PM
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5. That is not funny could that go both ways. I watched that.
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 07:35 PM by OhioBlues
If you win Ohio you could end up losing a delegate?!?! :shrug:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:30 PM
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10. no it only works for clinton that way the reasons is that the districts that
have the most delegates also have the highest AA demographics. If Obama wins he can only increase his delegate count more
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:33 PM
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12. Thanks
that, as Olbermann said is going to be hard to take if you're a Clinton supporter. :wow: I know wouldn't like it if it happened to my candidate.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:28 PM
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6. berni baby, relax! It's gonna be a long night.
I'm trying to, and you're not helping! :P
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:38 PM
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25. babylon, I just can't, and you KNOW I can't. Love ya!
:toast: :beer: :hug:

Time for a drink!
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:28 PM
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7. yeah, lol. MSNBC coverage is vastly superior to CNN. all the hillary supporters need to
stop watching CNN.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:29 PM
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9. paul begala is pissing me off on cnn. is he still getting paid by the clintons?
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:29 PM
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8. Let's not laugh at each other in mean ways.
I did just see that. I like that Chuck Todd. Even when he's telling me news I don't like.
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:31 PM
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11. You won't be laughing in Denver
when Clinton takes the nomination

but please don't cry either. OK?
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:34 PM
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13. Would you mind detailing for us exactly how that scenario plays out?
Because I've been trying to figure it out for a while now and I don't see it.

No snark. I'm genuinely interested in your take on how she becomes the nominee at this point.
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:43 PM
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17. the race is going to continue
Obama wasn't able to seal the deal. Neither will get enough points. There's going to be a battle at the convention and Clinton will win and then go on to beat McCain.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:39 PM
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26. If the convention gives Hillary the nod in spite of the pledged delegates she will lose to McCain
And convincingly. Of course...she would lose anyway, but adding a split party and a bunch of turned off voters by the smoked filled rooms would make it a rout for McCain. Probably of historic proportions.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:38 PM
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15. Math please?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:39 PM
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16. Clinton + 0 = Winner!!
That seems to be the math
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:46 PM
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18. the math is Obama didn't seal the deal
he can get enough points to win. The race will continue until the convention. At the Convention Clinton and Obama will have one hell of a throw down. Clinton will win and go on to beat McCain. Do the math - Obama also does not have enough delegates. It's going to be a real primary where every vote gets to vote for real and it's going to be a real convention where the candidate is decided and the usual convention of smoke and mirrors and balloons missing their Que to fall.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:42 PM
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27. Hillary has far from sealed the deal
The super delegates are not going to be likely to go against the consensus of the pledged delegates unless they want to ensure McCain's election by a landslide. They are smart enough to see this, unlike the Hillary Herd who just move in masses.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:38 PM
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14. a week ago
I guessed that today would be a total wash delegate wise. That it would be basically 0 change, and it looks right.

I can't see Clinton being more than +5 tonight, and with the way Texas is, she could be a -10 or so.

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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:29 PM
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19. Chuck Todd now analyzing TEXAS!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:32 PM
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21. Assuming Clinton wins 51 to 49: Obama takes 64 to Clintons 62 Primary delegates
with 67 caucus delegates up for grabs.

If Obama takes 55 to 45 in the Caucus Obama takes a total 100 delegates, Clinton gets 93.

Obama could LOSE BY 2 points and win up to 7 more Delegates!
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:30 PM
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20. Which is what some of us have been trying to explain all damned day
to the Clintonistas. They still don't get it.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:33 PM
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22. You can explain till you're blue in the face
They're thinking "Move the goalpost" to PA.. then to WVA, then to umm.. Puerto Rico!

*sigh*

Like you, we need to end the primaries tonight and focus on McCain.

Hawkeye-X
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:33 PM
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23. You can stop chortling into your armpit now: Hillary's ahead 62% - 36%.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:44 PM
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28. It does look like she will win it by a safe margin. nt
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:45 PM
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30. the rural more conservative areas don't have as many votes to count, they come in first
It takes more time to count big cities....

Patience....
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:34 PM
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24. same in TX a loss gets Obama 100 clinton 93
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:44 PM
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29. It doesn't matter. For her, it's about "Winning the state" no matter how narrow
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 08:45 PM by FlyingSquirrel
the margin or how few delegates she gains. It's all a "media perception" game. She wants to be able to show that she's rebounding and has no reason to exit the race.
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