Exit polls in Ohio show that the less education you have

[panader0]

the more likely you are to vote for Hillary. The more you have, the more likely you are to vote for Obama. Hmmmm....

[Starbucks Anarchist]

1. Don't start this bullshit.

Signed, an Obama supporter.

[Benhurst]

7. Thank you, Starbucks Anarchist.

Signed, undecided, increasingly disgusted by both campaigns.

[panader0]

10. Hey , I didn't make it up. It was on CNN a bit ago. Chew them out.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

19. But the insulting insinuation you extrapolated from it is flamebait.

BTW, Bush went to Yale. Pretty much destroys the education-equals-intelligence meme.

[EFerrari]

26. Except, panaderO didn't extrapolate. This has been out there for months.

And, do we know who Junior voted for?

/typo

[Divernan]

57. Bush was a legacy who barely scraped through with a "gentleman's C' average.

And he hated Yale because all the regular (brilliant) students and faculty ridiculed him. Lots of Bushes went to Yale - they were known as "not too bright."

[Hieronymus]

50. It's been common knowledge for a long time now. Younger, better ....

educated, and white men vote for Obama. Older women, and blue collar vote for Hillary.

[jasmine621]

98. The less education one has the more likely you are to really know

what reality is to working men and women and those in the service.

[madmom]

105. EXACTLY..older women and blue collar workers KNOW how hard it is in the real world

[EFerrari]

106. What about older, blue collar women who go back to school and get degrees?

These categories are not a measure of WISDOM.

They only reflect a QUANTITY.

[madmom]

110. What about the school of "hard knocks", I know several people who have

college degrees but are totally oblivious about what happens in the real world like "How much does it cost to make a meal for a family of four, how much to you have to save out of your paycheck to be able to put gas in your car and still make the house payment, you know the easy stuff!

[EFerrari]

112. Yeah. The easy stuff that got me through grad school as a poor

single mom of two. How many cookies can I put in each lunch and still get through the week with something to put in the bags?

You mean, like that?

[madmom]

116. Congratulations on bettering your life, but not every one is that lucky.

[EFerrari]

121. That's not the point. We learn to our ability. And having a degree

doesn't mean you've never done laundry in the bathtub or otherwise lack life skills.

[madmom]

123. I didn't say it did, but it also doesn't mean you are smarter and better

at judging people either.Book smarts are one thing, common sense, unfortunately is just not all that common.

[EFerrari]

125. I missed that whole part of the OP where it said people with degrees

were better.

Where does that idea come from if not from the OP?

[madmom]

126. The first I saw it mentioned was in your post #106

[EFerrari]

127. Then you need to reread that post. Because it doesn't say that.

:wtf:

[madmom]

133. I think I know what you are saying, but I'm saying (and I'm not knocking you here) is that a degree

does not make one a better judge of character. I guess what I mean to say is just because a person doesn't have a degree and votes for Hillary doesn't mean they are not intelligent, just as having a degree and voting for Obama does not mean a person is more intelligent. That is being presumptuous to say the least,and again I congratulate you on your success!

[EFerrari]

137. And, lol, all I've been saying is the OP just repeated

what the media has been saying about a number of people with degrees, not about a number of somehow "better" people -- whatever that would be.

lol

A degree can't make you smart or good or right. Although, it can make you more stupid. lol :)

[cbayer]

136. C'mon sfexpat. What did you make of the "Hmmm......" statement?

What do you think the purpose of this OP was?

Just to re-iterate a well known statistic or to insinuate that educated (smart) people vote for one candidate and uneducated (stupid) people vote for the other?

[Bake]

143. "Educated" doesn't necessarily equate to "smart."

All you have to do is look around to know that.

Bake

Oh, and by the way, I have four degrees (B.A., M.Div., M.B.A., J.D.) and I support Hillary Clinton.

[cbayer]

144. Well I know that. I'm not stoopid or anything.

You must have amazing debt due to student loans.

[Bake]

152. Only from law school. But it's pretty horrible ...

Sigh.

Bake

[EFerrari]

145. "Hmmm" generally is read as "thinking. . . " was on early PCs.

Do you remember that? It used to appear instead of "loading" at the bottom of the screen.

I can see how this information could be used by someone to do what you suggest. panaderO didn't do that here.

And, what do those numbers mean, anyway?

Eta: I guess, tonight we'd get into a snit if redheads voted for Hillary but Radio Flyer owners voted for Obama. And, btw, degrees don't really translate into a higher income any more so the whole class thing doesn't work either. These are just numbers. Cats vote for Hillary. Parrots vote for Obama. On Tuesdays. Between noon and five! :)

[cbayer]

155. Hey I'm a redhead!!!!

LOL

I'm not dissing PanderO. I just want us to stop biting each other.

This race is absolutely fascinating, isn't it?

And what I see tonight at DU is some coming together. And I think that is good.

[EFerrari]

163. I'm going to be SO happy when this "exciting" part is over.

Have a good night. :)

[NDambi]

189. Amen..I started out dirt poor..and worked hard to get what I have and be where I am..I don't

apologize for it..and never will. I happily cast my 100K vote for Obama..Clinton shall never receive it.

[readmoreoften]

113. Statistically, that's a small portion of degree holders.

Come on, this is just classist bullshit. Your level of formal education has little to do with your knowledge about the issues that effect you.

Case in point: an entire century labor activism.

[EFerrari]

119. Look at this thread and tell me where the classicist bullshit lies.

Not in the OP who was reporting, not opining.

I haven't opined, either, for that matter.

Have you read this thread? Apparently all people who go to college are elitist assholes who vote for Obama.

And it's amazing that people can't distinguish between reporting and opining and that they are so quick to attack.

Do you know what the OP thinks of this report? Have you asked? No. You're attacking me as if I've taken a position.

Really. That's just unnecessary.

[susankh4]

171. Plus nurses.

And educators.

And the PhDs who educate nurses and blue collar workers.

In other words.. thos who live in the real world and understand real issues.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

192. the implication that stupid people are picking HRC is yours. own it.

:eyes:

[Fran Kubelik]

95. Hooray

Once again, you're the voice of reason.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

103. I try.

;) :hi:

[susankh4]

169. Yeah....

I have a MS. My DH has a PhD. We both voted for Hill. And we'll do it again in November.

[Lucinda]

2. Exact opposite in my case.

:hi:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

3. DU Polls Show That The Less Intelligent You Are, The More Prone You Are To Post Stupid Ass OP's.

:hi:

[redqueen]

6. *snort*

[Skoods]

13. hahaha K&R

[rpannier]

34. I'd recommend your post if I could

Yours should be a DUzy winner

[uppityperson]

45. Good one.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

51. How Are You Uppity???

Have you been avoiding GDP like the plague or somethin???

Good to see ya!

:hug:

[theredpen]

61. I thought you meant

"In what way are you uppity?"

I was looking for a flame war. :(

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

70. LOL

I hear ya.

Generally, when one sees my username, they generally see flames somewhere close by LOL

Ahhhhhh the price we pay for being so damn good...

:P

[uppityperson]

66. Doing ok

Mostly staying out of here since get tired wading through the stuff. Been taking the last month easy, had some surgery and recovering (nothing bad, just one of those things). I hate drugs. Though GD-P was easier to understand when I was on them. Looking forward to spring in the outside world and "then there was one" in the political world.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

74. Well May Your Rest Be Peaceful, Your Recovery Short, And Your Venture Outside Revitalizing.

:hug:

[Umbram]

54. Having seen many of yours - I concur.

:hi:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

63. Yup. Good Distinction! Proves Intelligent People Post Good Ones (me), And Not So Intelligent Post

ones like we see here.

Thanks for the compliment!!!11111!!!!11111

:hi:

[HughMoran]

71. Heh - I hadn't noticed

:rofl:

[RetroLounge]

96. OMC!

:yourock:

RL

[theHandpuppet]

114. ROFL!!!

Best zinger of the day.

:evilgrin:

[Autumn]

130. Perfect LOL

wish i could recommend your reply,:yourock:

[NobleCynic]

131. ::Blinks::

Yeah... that got a laugh outta me, even though I am an Obama supporter.

[Jamastiene]

177. Zing.

You nailed 'em. :thumbsup:

[rodeodance]

4. STOP with this crap!

[Zynx]

5. Republicans have held this one over us for years. Don't use it.

Sure, we win post grads, but among the college educated as a whole, they win or at least do better.

[Benhurst]

8. And everyone knows what marvelous candidates they pick.

:rofl:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. Ha

The Democratic coalition is made up of those voters with the most formal education and those with the least formal education and those who earn the most and those who earn the least...

[tabasco]

42. Got a link?

I'd like to see that. Thanks.

[Zynx]

53. When something is common knowledge, I don't feel the need to link it, but:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html

Here it depends on how you break it down. Bush won by margins larger than the national average among voters with some college or were college graduates. Kerry cleaned up among those with post-graduate degrees. The vote among college graduates was tied, but throw in those with "some college" and then you end up with the result I am talking about.

[tabasco]

79. Common knowledge? Your link contradicts what you claimed.

Total college graduates (including post-grads):

Kerry 49%
Bush 49%

edit: Those with advanced degrees voted Democratic 55% to 44% in 2004.


So much for the "common knowledge" (aka a myth) that the more educated vote republican. But thanks for spreading republican talking points.

[Exultant Democracy]

90. This just isn't true more education and voting liberal have a long established link.

[tritsofme]

9. self delete

not a road I want to go down either.

[Mojambo]

11. Not helpful. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Maybe We Need To Euthanize Those Who Never Went To College

:sarcasm:

[jakem]

20. clever, they wont even know what you mean.

damn elitist.

:sarcasm: <they wont understand that either!

[rpannier]

41. Change the Constitution

Only University graduates can vote.

[fujiyama]

14. This crap again...

:boring:

[Joanne98]

15. I used to have a stockbroker who thought the government had nothing to do

with the economy. Proving that some educated people are idiots!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. Did He Get His MBA From The University Of Chicago?

~

[Joanne98]

68. LOL! Good one.

[midora]

17. It's Hard to Generalize

I'm college-educated, so that should make me an Obama supporter, but on the other hand I'm middle-aged and not exactly making a mint, so that should make me a Hillary supporter.

[terrya]

18. DU polls show some Obama supporters to be grade-A assholes.

[midora]

91. Recent Polls Indicate that Some DU Clinton Supporters Lack Sense of Humor

Some seem so angry and touchy, which makes me think they hate fun and good times.

[EFerrari]

21. This isn't new, panader0.

And, do you have a death wish?:yoiks:

[rinsd]

23. The working class as opposed to the professional class is supporting Hillary. What a scandal!

:eyes:

[Divernan]

67. It's not the working class's fault they received a poor education

and have to put more time in to making a living and raising their families, so they don't have time or political savy to see through Clinton's dog and pony show.

[Bucky]

24. Panader0, you stink. Republicans have, on average, more education than Democrats

Having less formal education doesn't actually make one a better judge of who will best serve your interests.

[EFerrari]

29. Can you please provide a source for "Republicans have on average

more education than Democrats"?

[theredpen]

35. It's tatooed on my butt

Wanna see it?



Seriously, I don't have a reference, but it might be true. Republicans do represent social classes more likely to afford higher education levels.

[EFerrari]

39. I think I just did. Thanks!

:)

[panader0]

36. I was merely repeating what I just heard on CNN

WOW, what a crazy response. The ratio was like 6 to 4 each way. I thought it was interesting. I guess other folks here don't think so.

[EFerrari]

38. I don't know why people are yelling at you. It's a tense day I guess.

That's just what the demographics have been for months. Sorry, panaderO. :shrug:

[Bucky]

40. here it is

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?PageID=750

[EFerrari]

48. That's the opposite of what I've read. Here's what panader0 likely heard:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/states/US/H/00/epolls.0.html

[Zynx]

55. We did worse among those with a college degree than any other group.

Now those with more than an undergraduate degree were our second best group, right behind those with no degree whatsoever.

[EFerrari]

72. I don't really understands statistics. See my post below. n/t

[theredpen]

56. He's not lying about the exit polls...

But what's the point? As many people have pointed out, "education level" is a mixed bag. Also, if people with less education are favoring Hillary then of course people with more education are favoring Obama — it's zero-sum game.

The question is "so what"? Presented as it was, it seemed to imply that "smart people vote for Obama."

This is obviously true, but you can see why it would cause a stir.

(Oh, did you see I added an image to my last post :))

[EFerrari]

80. I used to teach college English. I know that educated people

can be idiots. And, no, I don't need to review your post, thanks!

[theredpen]

82. You're totally missing out by not looking

So do you agree that this exit poll statistic lacks enough context to be meaningful?

[EFerrari]

85. That's probably right in itself.

My family is all over the map and I usually don't "class" people by how much time they did. lol

[Bucky]

60. But in that survey, too, the more education you have, the more likely you're Republican

The only exception is those people with post graduate degrees, but that's a very small fraction of the electorate.

Plus, those are exit polls from 2006, a low-watermark year for Republicans. Exit polls are way less scientific than random sampling provides. I've worked in market research for 10 years. I'm quite familiar with how demographics trend. Republicans are stronger among college educated demographics than among high school diploma/GED holders.

[EFerrari]

62. I don't know that it matters, but this is the gist of what I've understood:

http://www.democrats.com/node/11223

[Rockholm]

120. That is a good one.

Yeah, Boston, New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, San Francisco, LA....just filled with stupid-ass Democrats. Poor, stupid, falling all over each other on the way back to the trailer park after a long day working at 7-Eleven.

[InvisibleTouch]

52. Huh? All those global-warming deniers are highly educated??? n/t

[Bucky]

65. Actually, yes, if they're being paid a nice salary that encourages them to deny it.

[Horse with no Name]

25. education doesn't necessarily equal smart

and smart doesn't necessarily equal educated.
But nice slam on the working class. Not a surprise though.

[terrya]

31. George W. Bush has an MBA from Harvard

That pretty much bolsters your argument, I hope.

[Horse with no Name]

76. LOL--That signs the deal on my argument

:thumbsup:

[panader0]

78. Hey Horse, I am not slamming the working class

I'm 57 and have been a bricklayer for 37 years. It doesn't get any more blue collar-working class than me. Okay? I laid block all day today, 'way up on a scaffold, and I can still burn the youngsters.

[emilyg]

27. What crap.

[Upton]

28. It's been like that everywhere

get an education, you'll vote Obama.

[rpannier]

32. Silly

Education is more than a university degree.

To think otherwise is arrogance

[rpannier]

30. And less education means what exactly???

That they're stupid???

I have an advanced degree and my wife has one year in university and she is definately the smarter of us.

She has a tremendous amount of life experience that I will never have.
She also has a better understanding of how most people live.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. My Mom Has A 151 I Q...Graduated High School When She Was Fifteen

But it was the Depression and she became a bookkeeper...

Lots of smart folks never went to college for a host of reasons...

[Divine Discontent]

46. amen EOM

[theredpen]

33. Exit polls show that the bigger a dick you are, the more you post about exit polls

Maybe not. I just have to post that.

[Bucky]

44. So Zogby is like an alternative to viagra?

Ask me about my "exit polls," bay-bee, and watch the magic grow!

[theredpen]

64. Have you tried megap0ll? Make your g1rlfriend happy!

[Divine Discontent]

43. education/wealth does not dictate the morals and compassion of a person

so drop this shit! k?



GOBAMA!

[blonndee]

47. Oh, stop this shit.

This is childish and buys into all the negative stereotypes about Dems.

[uppityperson]

49. Yeah, and I always tell pollsters the absolute truth too.

Lies, damned lies, statistics taken from self reporting. Hmmmmm?

[LaurenG]

58. Woah!

I doubt that. I think the less education the more likely to vote McCain. I live here, in SW Ohio and that is just a rude broad brush load of something stinky. x(




















:hi:

[QC]

59. Quite right, my good man. That bumptious harridan attracts a most unsavory crew!

[RememberWellstone]

69. and if you are black

you vote for Obama by 85%...what does that mean?

[theredpen]

77. I know what it means!

15% of blacks polled say they voted for someone else!

[Hoof Hearted]

73. Oh goody! Is this the thread where we dump on people who couldn't afford college?

Like a bunch of haughty, elitist shit-wits?

[theredpen]

84. Do we even need an excuse to dump on people who couldn't afford to go to college?

Look! The nation's finest youth:

[nonconformist]

75. Some of the smartest people I know are "uneducated"

And some of the biggest idiots I know have a Master's degree.

[DemBones DemBones]

81. Real Democrats don't look down on people with less education.

Of course, real Democrats don't use sexist or ageist terms, either.

[EFerrari]

83. Except no one here is dumping anything except you screaming people.

That's just what the polls have been saying about these campaigns from early on.

But, please, keep screaming. The night is young.

[theredpen]

86. Again, sfexpat2000

The polls are saying that. What was the OP saying by posting it here?

There's been no answer. It appears to be a swipe at Clinton voters based on the assumption that a higher education level makes your choices more valuable. If that's not the point, what is?

Oh, and feast your eyes!

:rofl:

[EFerrari]

88. You're on a projecto-o-rama.

The OP, imo, was posting info for feedback. I don't recall my friend panaderO posting stupid flame bait here. :shrug:

[theredpen]

93. Well, mission accomplished

He certainly got feedback. :)

[Nine]

87. Oh please...

The insinuation was crystal clear - smarter people prefer Obama over Hillary.

[EFerrari]

89. Can you quote the insinuation?

No, you can't. Because there wasn't one.

Geeze, chill. The corporate media has been saying this FOR MONTHS. Those are the demographic RESULTS.

[theredpen]

94. You can't quote an insinuation

It's implicit.

I thought you said you taught English! :P

[EFerrari]

101. Yes, you can. You can quote the words in a context.

Detention for you, pen!

[theredpen]

140. Good point

I think the problem with the OP was there was no context. The poster should have explained a little more. It's like putting on safety goggles, except for GD:P.

[Nine]

97. Do you know what insinuation means?

What do you think was the purpose of posting this? Just a random fact?

ETA - Dammit, theredpen, stop beating me to it! :)

[EFerrari]

102. Have you never posted anything to this board to find out

what other people think?

And, do you usually attribute negative motives to strangers?

That must be awful.

Edit to add: Do YOU know what insinuation means? Because only 1/2 of the meaning is in the actual words deployed.

[cbayer]

141. Hmmmmmm...... Or maybe he just fell asleep? nt.,

[EFerrari]

150. I answered that above.

If you can somehow manage to construct a sneer out of a hum, more power to you.

[cbayer]

157. Peace, sfexpat.

:hi:

[EFerrari]

161. You betcha.

:hi:

[UALRBSofL]

92. I think thats a very discriminatory statement

Made by CNN and Blitzer. And it's not correct.

[SammyWinstonJack]

194. They "reported" the same crap about Edwards' supporters and threw in "angry" too.

So we Edwards supporters were stupid, poor and angry. :grr:

[HooptieWagon]

99. To be fair, that poll is somewhat skewed

by all the repukes switching parties to vote for Shrill...

[jillan]

100. Not true with me.

[mudesi]

104. Well they can't add and subtract, that much I do know (nm)

[aquarius dawning]

107. looks to me like it adds up to a long drawn out battle all the way up until the convention.

How's that math work for you?

[mudesi]

108. Try again

This has been explained countless times in this forum. If Clinton drags this out, I don't know how anyone can defend her, since she will essentially be giving McCain the presidency.

[aquarius dawning]

122. 2,025 delegates. that's what either candidate needs to win & neither candidate is going to have it

This fight isn't over tonight for us one way or the other and there's no clear reason for either candidate to drop out especially considering the whole florida/michigan thing. Like I daid, it all adds up to a long drawn out battle.

[Thrill]

109. Those voters for Hillary are the ones who are easily

scared and fooled by Repukes

[NMMNG]

111. Hmmmmm

I wonder what the exit polls show about how much arrogance people have.

[557188]

115. Too bad I'm in grad school and voted Hillary

Undergrad in Poli Sci even!

Oh and Im white male!

[bentery]

117. So Obama is winning the rich elitist trust fund hipsters?

[Exilednight]

129. I have a Masters and I'm far from being rich, elitist, or a trust fund hipster. I know many....

people that have just a HS diploma that make more than I do.

[stop the bleeding]

118. Ding Ding Ding - we have a winner!

For dumbest post of the night


btw I support O

[curvy rider]

124. I think that's unfair to Hispanics and low-income blacks

Who are generally prone to have less academic education than other wealthier people.
I think you are being insensitive.

[EFerrari]

128. I think there are a lot of new posters that have found a home

in this thread.

[Darth_Kitten]

132. More educated people are not necessarily more intelligent ones.......

Lots of intelligent people don't have the means, wealth, and connections to go to college.

Not all smart people go to college, and not all college-educated individuals are smart. :)

[riverwalker]

134. powerless women

feeling empowered by voting for Hillary. I never been able to figure it out.

[cbayer]

135. Experience shows that the shorter your OP, the less sense it makes sense.

Wow, do you think we should re-institute literacy tests for voting?

[Singular73]

138. I'm an Obama supporter, and hate Hillary with a passion but

This is bullshit.

Don't imply that people don't vote their interest, only because they are not classically educated.

Shame on you.

[DS1]

and 5 troll fuckbags still manage to rec this POS

[EFerrari]

149. I'm just going to have to rec this thread now

because posters here haven't overreacted enough yet to what they didn't read.

[kikiek]

139. Are you on the right site? Sounds like you're looking for the ignorant one down the road.

[Marie26]

142. Oh, let's hear it. nt

[Bread and Circus]

146. Sounds about right....

[Tess49]

147. I support Hillary. I have two degrees, plus some graduate work

under my belt. How much education do you suggest I need?

[kikiek]

148. RN that is a Hillary supporter here.

[kikiek]

153. What gets my goat is this post is against everything the Democratic party has stood for. Candidates

aside. It is belittling. It reminds me of why people don't ultimately care about other people. They justify it. They're just (fill in the blank...poor, black, illegal alien, etc etc the list goes on). How disturbing to see this kind of thought over a primary that we are hoping brings us a Democratic president.

[EFerrari]

154. How is that? The OP is reporting poll results.

Maybe you should go emote all over the poll and not all over this thread.

"This kind of thought"? Holy cow.

[kikiek]

156. Oh bullshit. HMMM. The implications are clear even if you choose to ignore them.

[EFerrari]

159. That's nuts.

Have you asked the OP for an opinion or do you generally spew your projections where ever you go?

[kikiek]

164. The post says it all. Your attempts to try to cover are lame and pathetic.

[EFerrari]

167. That one syllable "says it all"?

I had no idea that there was so much hostility against education in this party.

I thought those other guys did that.

There's no way I could "cover" for what this thread has laid bare.

[kikiek]

173. This flame bait post clearly implies that people who vote for Hillary are uneducated and therefore

stupid. It is a divisive and insensitive post especially for an alleged democrat. End of message. Goodnight.

[EFerrari]

174. You are reading something into the OP that isn't there.

And, you are slamming the OP instead of thinking with him. Good night.

[Rabrrrrrr]

175. Not at all - it says that those with less education TEND toward supporting Hillary,

and those with more education TEND toward supporting Obama.

That's all it says. It does NOT say that people who vote for Hillary are uneducated. The only conclusion in that direction that could be drawn is that people who vote for Hillary TEND to be LESS educated than Obama supporters. In general. As a TREND; as a TENDENCY. NOT as an absolute fact in all specific cases.

It is neither divisive nor insensitive to report on a poll - it is merely a factual reporting of a poll result. And before someone misreads that last sentence, yes, I realize polls can be error - I am not saying that this particular poll result is utterly and universally factual in all cases at all times; I AM saying that in the particular poll that was conducted, the result was as stated above; that is, the results that were stated above were stated factually.


Jesus, people, take a goddamn math class and learn math, especially some fucking statistics and probability, and then take a fucking class in logic.

It might help to take a class or two in basic reading comprehension as well.

Oh, and a class in geometry - that will really help in thinking logically and learning that just because p implies q doesn't mean that q implies p, or that not q implies p, or that not p implies q, or that p also therefore implies s, t, u and v.

Christ.

[kikiek]

184. Oh fuck. You really think the OP was that deep. Hahaha. You're cute.

[EFerrari]

186. "Oh fuck. Hahaha. You're cute" would be the summary.

:rofl:

[Rabrrrrrr]

190. Are you bothered because the earth orbits the sun?

Because that's also a fact.

I'm curious if you are selective in what facts you find offensive, or if you are offended by all facts?

If you are selective about what facts you find offensive, I'm curious to hear what your rubric is.

[Tess49]

183. It's a generalization. The fact is, I know many people who for whatever reason

couldn't, or chose not to go to college. People who are smart, well read, and interesting. The idea that I support Hillary because I'm an older female annoys me. A lot. You're right. It does belittle.

[Algorem]

151. i have a doctorate in ******* you in your ***

[Rabrrrrrr]

158. Interesting how people don't want to say college educated people are smarter,

and yet get all snippity and up in arms because you've apparently insulted the non-intelligent.

Ya can't have it both ways, people.

Pandar0, I'm sorry that so many asshats and oilbrains decided to come into this thread and read judgment, innuendo, and insult in your very objective reporting of mere facts.

It's fucking hilarious: say that college educated Democrats favor Obama over Clinton (which as you reported is merely a fact in Ohio, based on polling), and people go apeshit, thinking you've made some sort of subjective comment on people's intelligence.

I'm dying laughing at the idiocy of so many in this thread, while at the same time crying that so many are so goddamned dumb that they can't even tell a fact from vitriol.

It's like if I said "Some bears eat meat" and then half of DU responds with, "So you think people should be legally required to offer their children to bears? Why stop there? Why not just kill everyone?"

Completely out of context, completely emotional, completely bullshit.

If it means anything, you have my sympathies and you have my support.

People who make value judgments about facts are, sadly, probably people who aren't very educated.

[EFerrari]

172. Rabrrrrrr, what the f took you so long?

It's so WEIRD to see so many people beating up on the OP for only reporting what some poll said. The hits keep coming.

Nobody is really talking about what this might MEAN, they're too busy attacking the fact of it.

It's not like the party has always had a wide spread of incomes and educations and melanin levels and religions and philosophies.

F#ck.

[RockyTorres]

160. Ohio MBA here!!!!

[RockyTorres]

and a Hillary supporter!!!!

[lonestarnot]

162. What if you are educated and love them both?

[EFerrari]

182. You must go back for regrooving immediately!

[debbierlus]

165. And.................

Finish your thought.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

166. since when did we become the party of the elitist. i have a masters degree

and i support clinton

[EFerrari]

168. You know what I don't get? Why are Democrats being bashed

as elitists when they didn't CONDUCT THE POLL?

:shrug:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

191. because you are posting this with implications that stupud, uneducated people

are picking HRC and brilliant intellectuals are picking Obama.

[EFerrari]

195. No. That is the asssumption readers are making.

First, I didn't post the OP. Second, the DUer who posted it made no comment.

This forum is completely out of control. But I knew that.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

197. this line from the op is literally asking for that implicatiohn

"the more likely you are to vote for Hillary. The more you have, the more likely you are to vote for Obama. Hmmmm...."

[EFerrari]

198. The first two sentences are facts. So, the supposed innuendo

that has posters in a froth on this thread is contained in "hmmmm"!

People with degrees had to break for somebody. So do left handed people and vegetarians.

[robbedvoter]

170. Thank you for your contempt.

[Jamastiene]

176. That certainly is a snobbish outlook you have.

There is nothing worse than someone who claims to know it all, yet knows so little. I'm college educated and I support Hillary. So do many others with an education. You know EXACTLY what you can do with your poll.

[EFerrari]

179. Why are you attacking a DUer for reporting a poll result?

[Rabrrrrrr]

180. It's not his poll. The poll is factual. Why the emotional response?

Do the poll results say that all Hillary supporters have no education? Does it say that Obama supporters are inherently better people? Does it say that less educated people suck? Does it say that highly educated people will only vote for Obama?

No.

Not at all.

It says none of the above.

Fucking Christ.

[gatorboy]

178. Thanks for insulting a good bulk of the Democratic party.

What the fuck are you doing here? :eyes:

[EFerrari]

185. Who are you talking to?

[CyberPieHole]

181. "less education" should result in being shat upon and getting stepped on...

thanks for all the "hope" and "unity". The CULT is AMAZING!:eyes:

[Algorem]

187. Cults On Campus

Cults Prey On New Students' Feelings Of Alienation, Experts Say

http://www.rickross.com/reference/icc/ICC307.html

San Diego 10 News/November 12, 2002

San Diego -- The problem of cults is plaguing college campuses across the country, and in San Diego it's no different, 10News reported.

Young people in college are at a stage in life where they're searching for meaning and their place in life, 10News reported, and many of them are being recruited into organizations that many people believe people are cults.

Former University of California, San Diego student "Lucy" told 10News that she found herself wrapped up in a group that she has since come to believe was a cult.

"I was new in college. I didn't know a lot of people," she said. "Part of the whole brainwashing thing was that I was going to go to hell if I didn't do everything they expected me to do."...

[Amanita]

188. I bow my unwashed, blue collared neck to you - you smart people always

find a way to put us in our rightful places....Who needs GOP when the contempt for the working man is right here!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

193. you are an idiot.......insulted a majority of Obama's base in SC, and GA ....shame on you.

[Phillycat]

196. This Ivy-League educated upper-middle class Hillary supporter

tells you to go fuck yourself. I can say it in Latin, too, if that helps.

[krabigirl]

199. Hate this crap. How does this explain my husband, PhD and multiple Master's Degrees?

He voted for Hillary.

This is ridiculous. I'm surprised Obama pulls in the more educated, with his preacher-talk. But that's just my opinion. Educated people vote for BOTH candidates, obviously.

[theboss]

200. This is true of Democrats in the GE too

I sometimes wish that everyone on DU had paid attention to politics prior to 2000.

Explaining politics here is sometimes like explaining the history of baseball to my mother.

[SeaLyons]

201. Hillary is winning

the heart of America. Don't sell people without a college degree short. They will put her in the White House, and btw, I have a degree and I support Hillary 100%.

Hillary for President!!